Halo 4 isn't running on a brand new Game Engine! - Report

Well thats lame. I would be fine with them using the Reach engine as long as they fix Halo's god awful artstyle. Seriously, its so incredible bland and lifeless. They can do so much more with the heavy lore the Halo universe has.

That´s nice! 720p and 30 fps locked would be a goos start. Or, of course, a launch tittle for the next Xbox.

Halo needs a new engine that can produce a stable 50+ FPS at 720p.

2009 - Halo 3: ODST

2010 - Halo: Reach

2011 - Halo Anniversary

2012 - Halo 4

If this is not annualization, then what is it?

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="Zero5000X"] "resembling in every relevant respect" -Merriam-Webster

Zero5000X

Imagine yourself as an infant. Imagine how young, naive, and small you were. Think forward, as years go by; you grow older, taller, stronger. The resemblances are fading. Now imagine in the future, you're an old man. You're balding (or your hair is gray), you're hunched over, wrinkly, and wise. Now I'm not saying that's what you were, are, or ever will be, but just think in your head of yourself as an infant, and place beside that your future, old-man self. Are still yourself? Are you still technically-speaking the same person? You've grown, changed, and improved (or degraded), but it's still you isn't it?

Now replace yourself with the Halo engine and the adjectives with technological jargon. I realize I've just taken this to a very philosophical place, but what say you now? Really, the Halo engine is still the same, how it's organized, where things go, the language, all that fundamental framework remains the same. It's just grown up and improved.

If you have a 1 story house made of stones. You can modify it extend it using stones but you cant modify the house by replacing the stones to bricks. Then you have to tear it down and build a new one of bricks.

Bricks make it look better and give the house better insolation for the cold winthers.

And this is suppossed to tell us how good the game will look? As everyone already said, Halo 3 run on a modified Halo 2 engine yet looks miles better. Halo Reach runs on a modified Halo 3 engine yet also looked a lot better and supported, if I remember correctly, twice as many AI on screen.

Even if they were to create a new engine.... would that make the game look a lot better? no, it's the same hardware which Reach's engine already seems to have pushed near its limit.

CoD isn't call a rehash because it keeps running every installment on the same engine but because the gameplay has actually been the same since CoD4.

Halo is different this way, the only time gameplay was recycled was from Halo 2 to 3 and even then that came with the graphical jump of going to a new generation console.

Halo needs a new engine that can produce a stable 50+ FPS at 720p.

2009 - Halo 3: ODST

2010 - Halo: Reach

2011 - Halo Anniversary

2012 - Halo 4

If this is not annualization, then what is it?

BenGenio

Yeah, there's been a lot of Halo-related games this generation; six in all. Halo 3 (Sept. 2007) and Halo Wars (Feb. 2009) as well, but they don't really count for "annualization", even though the releases are close overall. Anniversary is still an installment, albeit a remake.

I wonder if there'll be one in 2013? :P Maybe we'll be seeing (not playing) new consoles by then.

And this is suppossed to tell us how good the game will look? As everyone already said, Halo 3 run on a modified Halo 2 engine yet looks miles better. Halo Reach runs on a modified Halo 3 engine yet also looked a lot better and supported, if I remember correctly, twice as many AI on screen.

Even if they were to create a new engine.... would that make the game look a lot better? no, it's the same hardware which Reach's engine already seems to have pushed near its limit.

CoD isn't call a rehash because it keeps running every installment on the same engine but because the gameplay has actually been the same since CoD4.

Halo is different this way, the only time gameplay was recycled was from Halo 2 to 3 and even then that came with the graphical jump of going to a new generation console.

alfredooo

[QUOTE="BenGenio"]

Halo needs a new engine that can produce a stable 50+ FPS at 720p.

2009 - Halo 3: ODST

2010 - Halo: Reach

2011 - Halo Anniversary

2012 - Halo 4

If this is not annualization, then what is it?

Episode_Eve

Yeah, there's been a lot of Halo-related games this generation; six in all. Halo 3 (Sept. 2007) and Halo Wars (Feb. 2009) as well, but they don't really count for "annualization", even though the releases are close overall. Anniversary is still an installment, albeit a remake.

I wonder if there'll be one in 2013? :P Maybe we'll be seeing (not playing) new consoles by then.

Halo needs a new engine that can produce a stable 50+ FPS at 720p.

2009 - Halo 3: ODST

2010 - Halo: Reach

2011 - Halo Anniversary

2012 - Halo 4

If this is not annualization, then what is it?

BenGenio

Hardly fair. ODST was an expansion pack, and Anniversary is this year because ... well its Halos anniversary so it makes sense. There won't be a Halo game in 2013, and maybe not even 2014 (Bungie usually took 3 years to work on a main Halo game, although i don't know how 343 will work)

I got to say that I was more impressed with MW2 graphics(60fps,sub hd but 2xMSAA) than with Reach graphics(sub 30fps,sub hd,temporal AA).From shaders and lighting(especially interior) to shaders and character models.COD looked better.

Well thats lame. I would be fine with them using the Reach engine as long as they fix Halo's god awful artstyle. Seriously, its so incredible bland and lifeless. They can do so much more with the heavy lore the Halo universe has.

mexicangordo

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

Well thats lame. I would be fine with them using the Reach engine as long as they fix Halo's god awful artstyle. Seriously, its so incredible bland and lifeless. They can do so much more with the heavy lore the Halo universe has.

AugustusGraham

Yap.Bland and uninspiring.Its all barren...with simple lines and lots of purple.

[QUOTE="AugustusGraham"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

Well thats lame. I would be fine with them using the Reach engine as long as they fix Halo's god awful artstyle. Seriously, its so incredible bland and lifeless. They can do so much more with the heavy lore the Halo universe has.

Bus-A-Bus

Yap.Bland and uninspiring.Its all barren...with simple lines and lots of purple.

Wow, so they are going the Call of Duty route and not ever making a new engine, just making petty tweaks here and there.

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="AugustusGraham"]Um...WHAT

DarkLink77

Yap.Bland and uninspiring.Its all barren...with simple lines and lots of purple.

I love it but art style cant be good or bad. Just opinion.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

Yap.Bland and uninspiring.Its all barren...with simple lines and lots of purple.

PAL360

I love it but art style cant be good or bad. Just opinion.

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="AugustusGraham"]Um...WHAT

DarkLink77

Yap.Bland and uninspiring.Its all barren...with simple lines and lots of purple.

Yea.Whole artstyle is bad IMO.Its a bit to childish.AI look terrible,cities look very simple and honestly,I'm not that big of a fan for colors.And i mean purple,red,green and that sort of stuff.Crysis 2 use of colors is perfect.Halo looks like c.r.a.p. ME series made much better work on space side than Halo IMO.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

Yap.Bland and uninspiring.Its all barren...with simple lines and lots of purple.

Bus-A-Bus

Yea.Whole artstyle is bad IMO.Its a bit to childish.AI look terrible,cities look very simple and honestly,I'm not that big of a fan for colors.And i mean purple,red,green and that sort of stuff.Crysis 2 use of colors is perfect.Halo looks like c.r.a.p. ME series made much better work on space side than Halo IMO.

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Insert *notsureifserious.jpeg here* Um... what? Halo's art style is awful?Ninja-Hippo

Yea.Whole artstyle is bad IMO.Its a bit to childish.AI look terrible,cities look very simple and honestly,I'm not that big of a fan for colors.And i mean purple,red,green and that sort of stuff.Crysis 2 use of colors is perfect.Halo looks like c.r.a.p. ME series made much better work on space side than Halo IMO.

What I mean by barren is more...huh...Take Crysis 2 for example.Lots of fire,smoke,water dripping and leaves flying around you.There more complex geometry and much more decals.Halo is very simplistic in design(thats why i called it bland and barren).Here...

cool I just want to play it

[QUOTE="alfredooo"]

And this is suppossed to tell us how good the game will look? As everyone already said, Halo 3 run on a modified Halo 2 engine yet looks miles better. Halo Reach runs on a modified Halo 3 engine yet also looked a lot better and supported, if I remember correctly, twice as many AI on screen.

Even if they were to create a new engine.... would that make the game look a lot better? no, it's the same hardware which Reach's engine already seems to have pushed near its limit.

CoD isn't call a rehash because it keeps running every installment on the same engine but because the gameplay has actually been the same since CoD4.

Halo is different this way, the only time gameplay was recycled was from Halo 2 to 3 and even then that came with the graphical jump of going to a new generation console.

DarkLink77

(thats why i called it bland and barren).Here...

Bus-A-Bus

Well,thats where we part ways :) I find it pretty meh.Especially lighting.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="alfredooo"]

And this is suppossed to tell us how good the game will look? As everyone already said, Halo 3 run on a modified Halo 2 engine yet looks miles better. Halo Reach runs on a modified Halo 3 engine yet also looked a lot better and supported, if I remember correctly, twice as many AI on screen.

Even if they were to create a new engine.... would that make the game look a lot better? no, it's the same hardware which Reach's engine already seems to have pushed near its limit.

CoD isn't call a rehash because it keeps running every installment on the same engine but because the gameplay has actually been the same since CoD4.

Halo is different this way, the only time gameplay was recycled was from Halo 2 to 3 and even then that came with the graphical jump of going to a new generation console.

Heil68

Dual wielding the needler was overpowered as all f***. Good times. :)