GT5 vs. FORZA 2: Graphics Comparison (56k Warning!)

here are some more shots of GT5:

[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"][QUOTE="Marka1700"]What does every single GT screen shot on these boards have in common? No Hud and and Camera angles to suggest not in game.Marka1700

It's a racing games, Explain the wiered camra views? And why does this screen that acutaly has a had and is most definatly gameplay look so much different.

[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"][QUOTE="AgentVX"]

Are all those similey faces supposed to add weight to your arguement???

AgentVX

Oh, come on sport, you really think I'm on shaky ground. You still haven't answered my question on how much time in comparision to Forza that GT will have in development time.

I think you spend too much time figuring out what smilely face to put after your nonsense, and not enough time with the question at hand.

omg i can't wait untill this game comes out!!!!!Rikusaki

yeah should only be a year now! first thing I do is design your avatar on the hood of my car to race online. Should be no problem for such a next-gen game!!!

This really shouldn't be debated since, even though I personally think GT5P,PGR3-4,Dirt,Motorstorm,Burnout - Hell, just about every other racer shown so far looks better than Forza 2 there are two things that always break down these threads.

1) Gran Turismo 5 prologue isn't Gran Turismo 5, which we can assume will look better and will have the actual features expected from a GT game. However, everyone making the assumption they know what is in the game just makes them look like fools to be honest.

2) The gameplay>graphics edge, why do people have the audacity to come into a GRAPHICS Comparison thread to start talking about gameplay? Along with that, throwing across clearly biased and unfounded points. GT5 may or may not have damage too - but even then to label it as "bumper cars" or whatever is plain stupid. No one knows how many refinements are being made to the game isntead of damage.

the GT5 screens are not gameplay, so you fail. they are menu screens....

this is stupid, because GT5 cars will look much better than forza2 models anyway. Forza2 is full of jaggies

but i hope GT5 will have gameplay physics like forz2 and NOT like the carsim from hell that GT:HD is

furtherfan

I am really interested about this game, what framerate and resolution GT will run at. What graphically they will have to cut out if they do decide to run at 60fps. The PS3 has horrid framerate issues up to now, can they get it fixed by the time of it's release, or is it a problem within the PS3?

I really think if GT runs at 60fps smoothly, and they can keep the graphics at a high level, this game will really start to show the PS3's potential. But I have serious doubts.

Never the less, GT series has been a fun arcade/sim racer, but I am not sold on all these screenshots and video's they are releasing. All the shots and videos are everything except actual gameplay footage, and when that happens, you know they are blowing as much smoke in the consumers eyes as possible.

[QUOTE="furtherfan"]

the GT5 screens are not gameplay, so you fail. they are menu screens....

this is stupid, because GT5 cars will look much better than forza2 models anyway. Forza2 is full of jaggies

but i hope GT5 will have gameplay physics like forz2 and NOT like the carsim from hell that GT:HD is

AgentVX

I am really interested about this game, what framerate and resolution GT will run at. What graphically they will have to cut out if they do decide to run at 60fps. The PS3 has horrid framerate issues up to now, can they get it fixed by the time of it's release, or is it a problem within the PS3?

I really think if GT runs at 60fps smoothly, and they can keep the graphics at a high level, this game will really start to show the PS3's potential. But I have serious doubts.

Never the less, GT series has been a fun arcade/sim racer, but I am not sold on all these screenshots and video's they are releasing. All the shots and videos are everything except actual gameplay footage, and when that happens, you know they are blowing as much smoke in the consumers eyes as possible.

yep, those ae the big questions. but without a damage model, these things get easier

[QUOTE="furtherfan"]

the GT5 screens are not gameplay, so you fail. they are menu screens....

this is stupid, because GT5 cars will look much better than forza2 models anyway. Forza2 is full of jaggies

but i hope GT5 will have gameplay physics like forz2 and NOT like the carsim from hell that GT:HD is

AgentVX

I am really interested about this game, what framerate and resolution GT will run at. What graphically they will have to cut out if they do decide to run at 60fps. The PS3 has horrid framerate issues up to now, can they get it fixed by the time of it's release, or is it a problem within the PS3?

I really think if GT runs at 60fps smoothly, and they can keep the graphics at a high level, this game will really start to show the PS3's potential. But I have serious doubts.

Never the less, GT series has been a fun arcade/sim racer, but I am not sold on all these screenshots and video's they are releasing. All the shots and videos are everything except actual gameplay footage, and when that happens, you know they are blowing as much smoke in the consumers eyes as possible.

The game runs at 60fps@1080p.

"The PS3 has horrid framerate issues up to now, can they get it fixed by the time of it's release, or is it a problem within the PS3?"

Hmmm. Odd statement to make.

[QUOTE="Marka1700"]

[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"][QUOTE="Marka1700"]What does every single GT screen shot on these boards have in common? No Hud and and Camera angles to suggest not in game.Stall0wn3d

It's a racing games, Explain the wiered camra views? And why does this screen that acutaly has a had and is most definatly gameplay look so much different.

[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"][QUOTE="AgentVX"]

Are all those similey faces supposed to add weight to your arguement???

AgentVX

Oh, come on sport, you really think I'm on shaky ground. You still haven't answered my question on how much time in comparision to Forza that GT will have in development time.

I think you spend too much time figuring out what smilely face to put after your nonsense, and not enough time with the question at hand.

All of the writing, and you could of answered it in 3 words. "I DON"T KNOW"

Thanks for at least admitting you don't know how long this game has been in development, and through all of the fluff, I found the answer I have been seeking.:) (Smilely inserted for your pleasure)

[QUOTE="AgentVX"][QUOTE="furtherfan"]

the GT5 screens are not gameplay, so you fail. they are menu screens....

this is stupid, because GT5 cars will look much better than forza2 models anyway. Forza2 is full of jaggies

but i hope GT5 will have gameplay physics like forz2 and NOT like the carsim from hell that GT:HD is

inertk

I am really interested about this game, what framerate and resolution GT will run at. What graphically they will have to cut out if they do decide to run at 60fps. The PS3 has horrid framerate issues up to now, can they get it fixed by the time of it's release, or is it a problem within the PS3?

I really think if GT runs at 60fps smoothly, and they can keep the graphics at a high level, this game will really start to show the PS3's potential. But I have serious doubts.

Never the less, GT series has been a fun arcade/sim racer, but I am not sold on all these screenshots and video's they are releasing. All the shots and videos are everything except actual gameplay footage, and when that happens, you know they are blowing as much smoke in the consumers eyes as possible.

The game runs at 60fps@1080p.

"The PS3 has horrid framerate issues up to now, can they get it fixed by the time of it's release, or is it a problem within the PS3?"

Hmmm. Odd statement to make.

How is that an odd statement to make. Game looks graphically very good, running at 60 fps at 1080p, no PS3 game to date has even had that type of load on the PS3, and many games have been choking on the hardware.

The good all, when it's released and I have seen it in action, I will reserve my true thoughts until then. And you really can't blame me for being skeptical, PS3 games haven't up to now been running "Silky Smooth".

[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

First off, whats the point of even making a thread like this if you're going to compress the pics that much?

Second, both those GT5 shots are replay mode shots, which always look better than gameplay shots.

And finally, GT5 is coming out a minimum of a year after Forza 2, of course its going to look better.

AgentVX

Bullocks.....Weak weak arguement. How quickly sony fanboys forget that the PS3 was to be released 3 months after the 360.

Don't make dumb statements like this unless you have development time for both games. And I can rest assure you, that GT will have had lots more dev time that Forza 2 had.

[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="AgentVX"][QUOTE="furtherfan"]

the GT5 screens are not gameplay, so you fail. they are menu screens....

this is stupid, because GT5 cars will look much better than forza2 models anyway. Forza2 is full of jaggies

but i hope GT5 will have gameplay physics like forz2 and NOT like the carsim from hell that GT:HD is

AgentVX

I am really interested about this game, what framerate and resolution GT will run at. What graphically they will have to cut out if they do decide to run at 60fps. The PS3 has horrid framerate issues up to now, can they get it fixed by the time of it's release, or is it a problem within the PS3?

I really think if GT runs at 60fps smoothly, and they can keep the graphics at a high level, this game will really start to show the PS3's potential. But I have serious doubts.

Never the less, GT series has been a fun arcade/sim racer, but I am not sold on all these screenshots and video's they are releasing. All the shots and videos are everything except actual gameplay footage, and when that happens, you know they are blowing as much smoke in the consumers eyes as possible.

The game runs at 60fps@1080p.

"The PS3 has horrid framerate issues up to now, can they get it fixed by the time of it's release, or is it a problem within the PS3?"

Hmmm. Odd statement to make.

How is that an odd statement to make. Game looks graphically very good, running at 60 fps at 1080p, no PS3 game to date has even had that type of load on the PS3, and many games have been choking on the hardware.

The good all, when it's released and I have seen it in action, I will reserve my true thoughts until then. And you really can't blame me for being skeptical, PS3 games haven't up to now been running "Silky Smooth".

Many games have been choking on the system - what ports from other platforms or incomplete demos? I can't believe you're actually trying to blame the hardware for that.

Yeah, no PS3 game has had that type of load - Well GTHD did but I suppose that doesn't count - Anyway if you don't expect the console to improve over time then there's a base of your skepticism, it just isn't a very stable one.

Besides, PD is much more talented the majority of developers, all their games have been 60fps so what's the point of thinking it'll be any different now? They even managed to have one of the best looking racers last gen and it was on the PS2.

But I've really got to ask you - do you have the same concern for 360 games? Because out of what I've played, they don't have the fastest framerates around either.

Damn how could I forget, RR7 was 1080p+60fps and it was a launch title, even playing Resistance I've never had a framerate drop - compared to the framerate in PDZ which is ALWAYS sub-30.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]

Is this necessary? We all know that the car models in those GT screens look better than Forza in-game. I say take that with a grain of salt, I need to see it on my tv first....

but either way, the biggest difference between Forza and GT is that I am playing Forza right now, and all cows can do is hype GT screens.

jiggawho2006

ok ***, go enjoy your gt hd :) while i go and play my fulll game.

um GT HD IS OUT RIGHT NOW. and it ALREADY looks better than forza 2!

In my rebuttal to this statement I must've missed him calling me a "***". Besides destroying him like I did, I would have also definitely said something about that. I'm not even japanese, I'm white, and that is a pretty racist term.

is it just me or Forza2 looks like a crap when compare to GT5 ??

GT5 totally ownz

Your dev time argument really don't matter since we're talking about two exclusives built for each system. In fact, it kind of elevates the PS3 performance when dev time is concentrated on just the PS3.gizmo_logix

Umm, yes it does matter, since it's quite obvious that GT has had ample more development time than Forza 2. If their plan was to release GT later, than they could devote much more time with the graphics/physics/customizations/etc then the team the developed Forza 2.

In that sense, the team developing GT has much more flexibility with the game graphic wise. And my rebuttal to Rambo, was that unlike he was saying with the whole 2nd generation game, is that development for GT was different than development for Forza 2.

Forza 2 main goal was gameplay/physics first, graphics last.

GT seems to be the exact opposite, graphics first and gameplay/physics last. That's why they are releasing all these screenshots, and not actual gameplay videos.

In actual fact,this whole debate is rather stupid. If you have your strongest/stronger 1st party developers on the project, and given "X" amount of time with the title, it should be very good, after all, these are most likely the best developers for the system. And if one team has the ability to develop for a game more than the other, there should be improvements over the other.

So yes, with this amount of time the GT team has, it should be a positive. The drawback is that since the PS3 sales are rather horrid, delaying this game witch is a system seller is only hurting Sony, and hurting the people who are waiting with their PS3's to get a better gaming lineup from the rather boring one they have now.

[QUOTE="jiggawho2006"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]

Is this necessary? We all know that the car models in those GT screens look better than Forza in-game. I say take that with a grain of salt, I need to see it on my tv first....

but either way, the biggest difference between Forza and GT is that I am playing Forza right now, and all cows can do is hype GT screens.

whoisryanmack

ok ***, go enjoy your gt hd :) while i go and play my fulll game.

um GT HD IS OUT RIGHT NOW. and it ALREADY looks better than forza 2!

In my rebuttal to this statement I must've missed him calling me a "***". Besides destroying him like I did, I would have also definitely said something about that. I'm not even japanese, I'm white, and that is a pretty racist term.

i didn't type that. someone edited my quote.

forza come on now seiously gt is looks better and plays better

psn doush

xbl hellbentOWL

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="jiggawho2006"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]

Is this necessary? We all know that the car models in those GT screens look better than Forza in-game. I say take that with a grain of salt, I need to see it on my tv first....

but either way, the biggest difference between Forza and GT is that I am playing Forza right now, and all cows can do is hype GT screens.

Rikusaki

ok ***, go enjoy your gt hd :) while i go and play my fulll game.

um GT HD IS OUT RIGHT NOW. and it ALREADY looks better than forza 2!

In my rebuttal to this statement I must've missed him calling me a "***". Besides destroying him like I did, I would have also definitely said something about that. I'm not even japanese, I'm white, and that is a pretty racist term.

i didn't type that. someone edited my quote.

Oh well, best hope the mods don't catch it under you name. Pretty sure callin someone a *** is suspension.

Okay comparing GT5 to Forza 2 is getting boring. Let's compare it with REAL-LIFE IMAGES.

Here are some more GT vs. Real Life pics.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="jiggawho2006"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]

Is this necessary? We all know that the car models in those GT screens look better than Forza in-game. I say take that with a grain of salt, I need to see it on my tv first....

but either way, the biggest difference between Forza and GT is that I am playing Forza right now, and all cows can do is hype GT screens.

whoisryanmack

um GT HD IS OUT RIGHT NOW. and it ALREADY looks better than forza 2!

In my rebuttal to this statement I must've missed him calling me a "***". Besides destroying him like I did, I would have also definitely said something about that. I'm not even japanese, I'm white, and that is a pretty racist term.

i didn't type that. someone edited my quote.

Oh well, best hope the mods don't catch it under you name. Pretty sure callin someone a *** is suspension.

ahh! but i didn't do it! some one put that in my quote! please help me!

[QUOTE="AgentVX"][QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="AgentVX"][QUOTE="furtherfan"]

the GT5 screens are not gameplay, so you fail. they are menu screens....

this is stupid, because GT5 cars will look much better than forza2 models anyway. Forza2 is full of jaggies

but i hope GT5 will have gameplay physics like forz2 and NOT like the carsim from hell that GT:HD is

inertk

I am really interested about this game, what framerate and resolution GT will run at. What graphically they will have to cut out if they do decide to run at 60fps. The PS3 has horrid framerate issues up to now, can they get it fixed by the time of it's release, or is it a problem within the PS3?

I really think if GT runs at 60fps smoothly, and they can keep the graphics at a high level, this game will really start to show the PS3's potential. But I have serious doubts.

Never the less, GT series has been a fun arcade/sim racer, but I am not sold on all these screenshots and video's they are releasing. All the shots and videos are everything except actual gameplay footage, and when that happens, you know they are blowing as much smoke in the consumers eyes as possible.

The game runs at 60fps@1080p.

"The PS3 has horrid framerate issues up to now, can they get it fixed by the time of it's release, or is it a problem within the PS3?"

Hmmm. Odd statement to make.

How is that an odd statement to make. Game looks graphically very good, running at 60 fps at 1080p, no PS3 game to date has even had that type of load on the PS3, and many games have been choking on the hardware.

The good all, when it's released and I have seen it in action, I will reserve my true thoughts until then. And you really can't blame me for being skeptical, PS3 games haven't up to now been running "Silky Smooth".

Many games have been choking on the system - what ports from other platforms or incomplete demos? I can't believe you're actually trying to blame the hardware for that.

Yeah, no PS3 game has had that type of load - Well GTHD did but I suppose that doesn't count - Anyway if you don't expect the console to improve over time then there's a base of your skepticism, it just isn't a very stable one.

Besides, PD is much more talented the majority of developers, all their games have been 60fps so what's the point of thinking it'll be any different now? They even managed to have one of the best looking racers last gen and it was on the PS2.

But I've really got to ask you - do you have the same concern for 360 games? Because out of what I've played, they don't have the fastest framerates around either.

Damn how could I forget, RR7 was 1080p+60fps and it was a launch title, even playing Resistance I've never had a framerate drop - compared to the framerate in PDZ which is ALWAYS sub-30.

Listen sport, I ain't gonna get into this with you. PS3 has had bad framerate issues, noticeable worse than the 360. Bringing RR7 into this to attemp to back your claim is an absolute joke. RR7 is nothing like GT5, to say otherwise is just 'wrong'.

And your right, I am blaming the hardware for most of it. There are serious design faults with the PS3 as there is with the 360. I have no doubt the PD is an excellent development team, but you still have to work within the limitations of the PS3. And so far, with the touted power of the PS3, there has not been a single game that has shown the supposed power of the PS3.

So knock my sails down all you want, with the supposed load that GT5 is supposed to give the PS3, 60fps at 1080p, I got a feeling this title is gonna dissappoint all that have seen these latest screenshots and replay videos. All show and no go.

From theone ingame shot in this thread, to tell you the truth, don't look much different that Forza 2. Yes from what I can tell from all the crappy screen shots, does look slightly better, but nothing to write Congress about. Nice cockpit view, but the actual track with cars look hauntingly similar.

But this is system wars, hype hype hype, then the time gets near and reality sets in. GT5 will be a great game, but how it will blow Forza's socks off, this is what I find funny.

is it just me or Forza2 looks like a crap when compare to GT5 ??

amourkiss

Nope, just you.

GT5 looks better, but forza still looks awesome. Forza's been out for a few months now. I don't see any sign of a final GT5, and probably won't for a few years, the way it's going. PS: The Umbrellas in one of the GT Pictures looks good

[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="AgentVX"][QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="AgentVX"][QUOTE="furtherfan"]

the GT5 screens are not gameplay, so you fail. they are menu screens....

this is stupid, because GT5 cars will look much better than forza2 models anyway. Forza2 is full of jaggies

but i hope GT5 will have gameplay physics like forz2 and NOT like the carsim from hell that GT:HD is

AgentVX

I am really interested about this game, what framerate and resolution GT will run at. What graphically they will have to cut out if they do decide to run at 60fps. The PS3 has horrid framerate issues up to now, can they get it fixed by the time of it's release, or is it a problem within the PS3?

I really think if GT runs at 60fps smoothly, and they can keep the graphics at a high level, this game will really start to show the PS3's potential. But I have serious doubts.

Never the less, GT series has been a fun arcade/sim racer, but I am not sold on all these screenshots and video's they are releasing. All the shots and videos are everything except actual gameplay footage, and when that happens, you know they are blowing as much smoke in the consumers eyes as possible.

The game runs at 60fps@1080p.

"The PS3 has horrid framerate issues up to now, can they get it fixed by the time of it's release, or is it a problem within the PS3?"

Hmmm. Odd statement to make.

How is that an odd statement to make. Game looks graphically very good, running at 60 fps at 1080p, no PS3 game to date has even had that type of load on the PS3, and many games have been choking on the hardware.

The good all, when it's released and I have seen it in action, I will reserve my true thoughts until then. And you really can't blame me for being skeptical, PS3 games haven't up to now been running "Silky Smooth".

Many games have been choking on the system - what ports from other platforms or incomplete demos? I can't believe you're actually trying to blame the hardware for that.

Yeah, no PS3 game has had that type of load - Well GTHD did but I suppose that doesn't count - Anyway if you don't expect the console to improve over time then there's a base of your skepticism, it just isn't a very stable one.

Besides, PD is much more talented the majority of developers, all their games have been 60fps so what's the point of thinking it'll be any different now? They even managed to have one of the best looking racers last gen and it was on the PS2.

But I've really got to ask you - do you have the same concern for 360 games? Because out of what I've played, they don't have the fastest framerates around either.

Damn how could I forget, RR7 was 1080p+60fps and it was a launch title, even playing Resistance I've never had a framerate drop - compared to the framerate in PDZ which is ALWAYS sub-30.

Listen sport, I ain't gonna get into this with you. PS3 has had bad framerate issues, noticeable worse than the 360. Bringing RR7 into this to attemp to back your claim is an absolute joke. RR7 is nothing like GT5, to say otherwise is just 'wrong'.

And your right, I am blaming the hardware for most of it. There are serious design faults with the PS3 as there is with the 360. I have no doubt the PD is an excellent development team, but you still have to work within the limitations of the PS3. And so far, with the touted power of the PS3, there has not been a single game that has shown the supposed power of the PS3.

So knock my sails down all you want, with the supposed load that GT5 is supposed to give the PS3, 60fps at 1080p, I got a feeling this title is gonna dissappoint all that have seen these latest screenshots and replay videos. All show and no go.

From theone ingame shot in this thread, to tell you the truth, don't look much different that Forza 2. Yes from what I can tell from all the crappy screen shots, does look slightly better, but nothing to write Congress about. Nice cockpit view, but the actual track with cars look hauntingly similar.

But this is system wars, hype hype hype, then the time gets near and reality sets in. GT5 will be a great game, but how it will blow Forza's socks off, this is what I find funny.

What the hell are you talking about?

You claimed and I quote:

"running at 60 fps at 1080p, no PS3 game to date has even had that type of load on the PS3"

I give you one, and suddenly it's a joke. Ridge racer 7 is a racer, just like Gran Turismo 5. How do you expect me to get a game that's exactly like GT to compare it to? I'm not saying Ridge Racer is like Gran Turismo but they do both fit in the same genre; Racing, would you prefer I compare it to another game? Resistance perhaps, how about Virtua Fighter?

Point is, I've shown you that the PS3 is capable of playing games at 1080p as well as 60fps, knock it all you want you're not proving anything by claiming it's a joke. Also, what limitations of the PS3? :lol: I'd love for you to spell them out for me, really I would.

I've no idea why you're expecting it to fail, GTHD is basically the same thing and manages 1080p@60, you even say you see very little difference between Forza 2 and GT5p, well Forza runs at 60 so what possibly makes you think GT is incapable of it?

The touted power, what exactly are you expecting? Even then when it's shown to you - you deny it.

I would rather play Forza just because it looks to have better gameplay, and actually has damage which is more realistic.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Gameplay > Graphics

Forza wins.

zeeerrr

its funny how lemmings switch their minds depending on the occasion.

Agreed gameplay > Graphics...

but Why does Forza WIn?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Gameplay > Graphics

Forza wins.

zeeerrr

Agreed gameplay > Graphics...

but Why does Forza WIn?

Why don't mods just lock these threads?

It's been like what a 100 threads like this one now
horgen123

I complained, and got the usual "report and ignore" response. Like it's going to do anything. :|

Some one should post pics of PGR3 in garage photo mode shots... The cars look amazing.

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Game play wise Forza2 is champ. GT5 looks good, thats about it.Koalakommander

how can you say that when GT isnt out yet

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Game play wise Forza2 is champ. GT5 looks good, thats about it.cecx

how can you say that when GT isnt out yet

It makes the game look attractive.

Gameplay > Graphics

Forza wins.

BioShockOwnz

Exactly...we did this same graphic comparison **** with Motorstorm and look how that turned out....It was hella hyped and the sony fanboys set themselves up for failure. It proved that graphics dont make the game.(not 100% at least)

TC, stop trying to pass off those GT5 bullshots as legit. If anyone thinks those screenshots are legit, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I need to unload. :|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|ferrarimanf355

either way you put it, GT5 still looks 10x better in game.

Forza looks horrible (no offense). I can't believe people are so fussy about Gran Turismo not have crash animations, is that all you care about! rocket9434

Forza looks horrible (no offense). I can't believe people are so fussy about Gran Turismo not have crash animations, is that all you care about! rocket9434

Next-gen isn't just about graphics you know. Gamers are demanding more realism to their gameplay than ever before and Forza 2 helps delivers that.

I have to admit Forza will probably own GT in gameplay but GT owns Forza in graphics (I thought that was all known)

But GTR2 owns both in gameplay ;)

I have to admit Forza will probably own GT in gameplay but GT owns Forza in graphics (I thought that was all known)

But GTR2 owns both in gameplay ;)

StephenHu

WHY dont you compare it to pgr4!

Gameplay > Graphics

Forza wins.

BioShockOwnz

So you have played GT5? How is it?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Gameplay > Graphics

Forza wins.

Wasdie

So you have played GT5? How is it?

It's superb. Too bad you don't have a time portal. :D

Gameplay > Graphics

Forza wins.

BioShockOwnz

Gameplay & Graphics > Gameplay

GT wins.