GSD: Xbox sales in complete freefall in Europe with a -47% drop in February, Helldivers 2 no. 1 with a bullet

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#1  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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According to GSD sales, Xbox continues to crater in Europe, down 47% compared to last February where numbers weren't already that strong in the first place. Xbox is completely done in the European market, which makes me wonder the point of continuing on with hardware in the first place. Another gen of deep discounts for negative gain awaits at this point.

This likely is due to the multiplat announcement effect taking place. News like that affects console sales for sure, and no one wants to invest in a loser.

In positive gaming news, Helldivers 2 has been no. 1 for a few weeks in Europe now, with sales actually climbing week to week on WoM alone. This is rare in the gaming world, but it does happen. This and Palworld seem to be the biggest success stories of the year thus far.

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47%!? 🤯

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@Chutebox said:

47%!? 🤯

Xbox is getting dangerously close to having little to no presence in many markets. There's no question as to why the Playstation ports are happening in the first place

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@Chutebox said:

47%!? 🤯

Xbox is getting dangerously close to having little to no presence in many markets. There's no question as to why the Playstation ports are happening in the first place

Only 4 games. Nothing more than that. :)

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Only 4 games. Nothing more than that. :)

😉Speaking of, guess what just launched on PS5 today?

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2027 is the year to remember. Everyone knows why, and nobody will be surprised when it happens.

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-47% over an already bad number is 😬

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PS5 dipped only -2% is even crazier for me due to last year if I recall sales went up to 400% due to Hogwarts Legacy and stock availability post covid.

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Be careful what you wish for cows because no competition means a monopoly, and we all know cows hate monopolies (remember the Activision buyout mantra)

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Makes me wonder why Microsoft hasn't asked their own Chatgpt how to sell their Xboxes

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@Chutebox said:

47%!? 🤯

Xbox is getting dangerously close to having little to no presence in many markets. There's no question as to why the Playstation ports are happening in the first place

Ouch! That's a massive hit for MS/Xbox for sure.

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Look at Hellblade 2 coming out, and instead of increasing the interest into buying the system, it'll be lowered from 47% to 51%😅

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Gee, that's huge.

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Nevermind hiding in this xbox sales thread head over to the PSVR2 thread and share your thoughts

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Looks like it's time for a dust off...

lol :P

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@loudheadphones said:

Only 4 games. Nothing more than that. :)

😉Speaking of, guess what just launched on PS5 today?

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Port begging when Sony has no games. Checks out.

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it's only right to post this image in a xbox sales thread made by a cow..

MS when hi fi and sea of thieves ps sales come rolling in 😂🤣
MS when hi fi and sea of thieves ps sales come rolling in 😂🤣

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#18  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@hardwenzen said:

Look at Hellblade 2 coming out, and instead of increasing the interest into buying the system, it'll be lowered from 47% to 51%😅

I'd be surprised if Hellblade 2 sells more on PC than for Xbox Series.

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Port begging when Sony has no games. Checks out.

You know it's not a port beg when the platform actually has the port, right? But that's okay, high sodium makes it hard to type I hear 🤣🤣🤣

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@kvallyx said:

Port begging when Sony has no games. Checks out.

You know it's not a port beg when the platform actually has the port, right? But that's okay, high sodium makes it hard to type I hear 🤣🤣🤣

You begged for it, you got it. Congrats. Keep begging for more Xbox games until we get a game on PS. Wolverine in 2026! Let's go!

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@saint-george said:

Nevermind hiding in this xbox sales thread head over to the PSVR2 thread and share your thoughts

Who gives a shit about an accessory when no one's touching your whole damn console?

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You begged for it, you got it. Congrats. Keep begging for more Xbox games until we get a game on PS. Wolverine in 2026! Let's go!

Nobody asked for Hi-Fi Rush. MS bent the knee and GAVE it to Sony because Game Pass bums don't buy games. Remember, this is all your collective faults. 😁

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@kvallyx said:

You begged for it, you got it. Congrats. Keep begging for more Xbox games until we get a game on PS. Wolverine in 2026! Let's go!

Nobody asked for Hi-Fi Rush. MS bent the knee and GAVE it to Sony because Game Pass bums don't buy games. Remember, this is all your collective faults. 😁

Sony bent the knee by releasing Helldivers 2 day one on PC because PS gamers don't buy games. (Your logic 😂) It also reminds me of the abandonware hardware called the PSVR2.

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@Pedro said:

Sony bent the knee by releasing Helldivers 2 day one on PC because PS gamers don't buy games. (Your logic 😂) It also reminds me of the abandonware hardware called the PSVR2.

That's not bending the knee, that's expanding the market. And it's paying off big for Sony. Sony's live service games have been planned to be day and date with PC, not Xbox. Because Xbox is a weak and dying platform that needs Playstation to survive, not the other way around.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@Pedro said:

Sony bent the knee by releasing Helldivers 2 day one on PC because PS gamers don't buy games. (Your logic 😂) It also reminds me of the abandonware hardware called the PSVR2.

That's not bending the knee, that's expanding the market. And it's paying off big for Sony. Sony's live service games have been planned to be day and date with PC, not Xbox. Because Xbox is a weak and dying platform that needs Playstation to survive, not the other way around.

So, by your new logic Xbox is expanding the market. 😂

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Oh heavens, will Xbox survive?

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@Pedro said:

So, by your new logic Xbox is expanding the market. 😂

More like Xbox had to move because their house is on fire. Time to cut the cord and go full third party

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@kvallyx said:

You begged for it, you got it. Congrats. Keep begging for more Xbox games until we get a game on PS. Wolverine in 2026! Let's go!

Nobody asked for Hi-Fi Rush. MS bent the knee and GAVE it to Sony because Game Pass bums don't buy games. Remember, this is all your collective faults. 😁

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Xbox who?

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@Pedro said:

So, by your new logic Xbox is expanding the market. 😂

More like Xbox had to move because their house is on fire. Time to cut the cord and go full third party

Dat FUD.

MS's ecosystem is based on Game Pass, not Xboxes sold. Sales in EU are lower because most EU users prefer to use PCs to play Xbox games instead of an Xbox console.

You are claiming "Xbox is dead" because console sales are down. Consoles exist to sell games. But for MS, consoles are "one way to sell games", the other is PC (and to some extent Playstation and Switch).

If MS has year over year growth in content sales, I really don't think they'll care as much about hardware sales. Stop applying Sony's business model to Microsoft.

And for the record, MS has 34 million game pass subscribers. That means they are bringing in $4b- $6b a year on Game Pass alone. They're just fine.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@Pedro said:

So, by your new logic Xbox is expanding the market. 😂

More like Xbox had to move because their house is on fire. Time to cut the cord and go full third party

So by the newer logic, Sony had to move their house (PSVR2) because it was on fire. In the case of the PSVR2, they literally cut the cord.😂

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@Pedro said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:
@kvallyx said:

You begged for it, you got it. Congrats. Keep begging for more Xbox games until we get a game on PS. Wolverine in 2026! Let's go!

Nobody asked for Hi-Fi Rush. MS bent the knee and GAVE it to Sony because Game Pass bums don't buy games. Remember, this is all your collective faults. 😁

Sony bent the knee by releasing Helldivers 2 day one on PC because PS gamers don't buy games. (Your logic 😂) It also reminds me of the abandonware hardware called the PSVR2.

Those are very different circumstances.

One game launched as a console exclusive also in a subscriptions service, didn’t sell exceptionally well despite its critical acclaim (most likely because of the subscription service) and was then ported to the competitions console to make up for poor hardware and software sales.

vs

Console makers owns the IP, yet the game launches day 1 on PC as well.

One strategy is reactive while the other is proactive. One tries to recoup losses while the other maximizes revenue and profit. Only an Xbox apologist would try to equate the two.

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#33  Edited By Silentchief
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Buh buh some people will always buy consoles...

This is what happens when you make your console completely irrelevant. This sucks for competition and hopefully Sony takes notes.

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@silentchief said:

Buh buh some people will always buy consoles...

This is what happens when you make your console completely irrelevant. This sucks for competition and hopefully Sony takes notes.

This is why I rarely use my Xbox. Then again, we haven't had a new first party game on our Xbox since Starfield/Forza. So the next time I boot it up will be Hellblade 2.

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@ghostofgolden: You have been acknowledged.😏

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@Pedro said:

So by the newer logic, Sony had to move their house (PSVR2) because it was on fire. In the case of the PSVR2, they literally cut the cord.😂

You're the one crying over the ashes of Xbox, no one cares about accessory wars. You may as well be bringing up the Kinect at this point. 🤣🤣🤣 Xbox has died, Pedro. The market has spoken. But, it's okay to be angry. Let it allll out.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@Pedro said:

So by the newer logic, Sony had to move their house (PSVR2) because it was on fire. In the case of the PSVR2, they literally cut the cord.😂

You're the one crying over the ashes of Xbox, no one cares about accessory wars. You may as well be bringing up the Kinect at this point. 🤣🤣🤣 Xbox has died, Pedro. The market has spoken. But, it's okay to be angry. Let it allll out.

I see that you are not a fan of the truth.🤭 It burned you so bad that you are talking about Kinect.😂

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@Pedro said:

So, by your new logic Xbox is expanding the market. 😂

More like Xbox had to move because their house is on fire. Time to cut the cord and go full third party

If MS "goes third party" and dumps Xbox, your PS6 will cost $1000+ and games will be $100+.

Sony has proven time and time again that they stick it to their customers when they have the power.

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#39  Edited By KathaarianCode
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Xbox doomed

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Yeesh. Well, there's that.

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@kvallyx said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:
@loudheadphones said:

Only 4 games. Nothing more than that. :)

😉Speaking of, guess what just launched on PS5 today?

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Port begging when Sony has no games. Checks out.

You are playing a Helldivers 2, a Sony's 1st party game? And you wanted to play a Stellar Blade demo, Sony's 1st party game? Mind you what you've said on Icon. Your hypocrisy and playing some sort of neutrality will bite you.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@saint-george said:

Nevermind hiding in this xbox sales thread head over to the PSVR2 thread and share your thoughts

Who gives a shit about an accessory when no one's touching your whole damn console?

"no one's touching your whole damn console?"

Meanwhile...

NO benjamine first the vacuum cleaner,now this
NO benjamine first the vacuum cleaner,now this
just you wait,the things i'm gonna do to you
just you wait,the things i'm gonna do to you
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#43  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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Poor Mr butthurt. Even when Xbox sales are going down, the profits, revenue and fan base is up. Thanks cows for buying our games.

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@loudheadphones said:

You are playing a Helldivers 2, a Sony's 1st party game? And you wanted to play a Stellar Blade demo, Sony's 1st party game? Mind you what you've said on Icon. Your hypocrisy and playing some sort of neutrality will bite you.

Helldivers 2 is a great game, as is Rebirth. Stellar Blade looks, well, Stellar. So what is your point?

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@kvallyx said:
@loudheadphones said:

You are playing a Helldivers 2, a Sony's 1st party game? And you wanted to play a Stellar Blade demo, Sony's 1st party game? Mind you what you've said on Icon. Your hypocrisy and playing some sort of neutrality will bite you.

Helldivers 2 is a great game, as is Rebirth. Stellar Blade looks, well, Stellar. So what is your point?

@kvallyx said:

when Sony has no games. Checks out.

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@loudheadphones said:
@kvallyx said:
@loudheadphones said:

You are playing a Helldivers 2, a Sony's 1st party game? And you wanted to play a Stellar Blade demo, Sony's 1st party game? Mind you what you've said on Icon. Your hypocrisy and playing some sort of neutrality will bite you.

Helldivers 2 is a great game, as is Rebirth. Stellar Blade looks, well, Stellar. So what is your point?

@kvallyx said:

when Sony has no games. Checks out.

I was talking about their first party development studios.

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@loudheadphones: Stellar Blade and Helldivers 2 are not Sony 1st party games.

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@dabear said:

@loudheadphones: Stellar Blade and Helldivers 2 are not Sony 1st party games.

Helldivers 2 is. Sony owns the Helldivers IP.

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@kvallyx said:
@dabear said:

@loudheadphones: Stellar Blade and Helldivers 2 are not Sony 1st party games.

Helldivers 2 is. Sony owns the Helldivers IP.

No it's not - Arrowhead Studios is not owned by Sony. For a game to be "1st Party", that means the developing team is a subsidiary of the parent company.

And don't put too much faith in the argument of "This manufacturer is the publisher, so they own the IP". Mass Effect 1, Ninja Gaiden II, and OddWorld were published by "Microsoft Game Studios", and they ended up on PlayStation.

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No it's not - Arrowhead Studios is not owned by Sony. For a game to be "1st Party", that means the developing team is a subsidiary of the parent company.

And don't put too much faith in the argument of "This manufacturer is the publisher, so they own the IP". Mass Effect 1, Ninja Gaiden II, and OddWorld were published by "Microsoft Game Studios", and they ended up on PlayStation.

Boy you're goofy. You don't have to own the developing studio to own the IP they work on. Mass Effect 1 (Bioware, now EA), Ninja Gaiden II (Tecmo), and the third and fourth OddWorld games (Oddworld Inhabitants) were never MS IPs, only timed exclusives published by MS at the time.

You know what are MS IPs that MGS doesn't develop? Ori, Flight Simulator, Crackdown, Killer Instinct. Try telling Phil Spencer his company doesn't own any of those and he'll slap the taste buds out your mouth.

If you're ever confused on who owns IPs, use this site as a resource

https://trademarks.justia.com/