Gran Turismo V's Forza

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#1 angryfodder
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As a whole, do you think Forza or Gran Turismo is the better series?

This is to be based on personal opinion from people that have played the games - nothing to do with sales.

I was and still am a massive GT fan, but I think I would go with Forza...the main reasons for my vote swaying this way:

I like the customisation

The AI feels more competitive, like you are facing off against real opponents

Online play

Update

This isNOT a poll about which game is the better simulation - that doesn't mean that can't be the swaying factor for your vote however.

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#2 inertk
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I never had any real game time with Forza, so I can't necessarily understand the appeal.

On the other hand I would play Gran Turismo 3 with my older sister like.. Every day. It was like crack.

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#3 ChiChiMonKilla
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It's hard to choose but I gotta go with forza 2 cause that's online and what I am playing now butI have no doubt that GT5 will blow it into the weeds after seeing the e3 video.
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#4 mindz2004
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honest opinion, GT

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#5 -MoOkS-
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GT, forza should be compared to the need for speed series not GT
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#6 -wii60-
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GT, forza should be compared to the need for speed series not GT-MoOkS-


:| please explain why..

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[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]GT, forza should be compared to the need for speed series not GT-wii60-


:| please explain why..

It's got lots of body kits,wings and stickers to rice up your whips ??
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#8 legalize3
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[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]GT, forza should be compared to the need for speed series not GT-wii60-


:| please explain why..

gt is the only ''game'' actually its not a game but a real life simulatorthat comes close to how people brake, gas, hadnbrake, steer, make a turn, spin, drag etc in real life

in short if you wanna have fun race win the race you take forza..

if you wanna have a feel how a real ife car react you take GT...

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GT, forza should be compared to the need for speed series not GT-MoOkS-

Erm yes, good point.....all that illegal street racing and police chases that makes up the Forza game?

And it would probably be better to compare GT with pokemon whilst i'm at it? (this has actually happened before)

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[QUOTE="-wii60-"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]GT, forza should be compared to the need for speed series not GTlegalize3


:| please explain why..

gt is the only ''game'' actually its not a game but a real life simulatorthat comes close to how people brake, gas, hadnbrake, steer, make a turn, spin, drag etc in real life

in short if you wanna have fun race win the race you take forza..

if you wanna have a feel how a real ife car react you take GT...

Sorry. I'm a big fan of the GT series but Forza is harder. With all assists of, and high A.I. Forza is hard, one bad mistake and it's race over.

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#11 legalize3
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[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="-wii60-"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]GT, forza should be compared to the need for speed series not GTfreshfighter83


:| please explain why..

gt is the only ''game'' actually its not a game but a real life simulatorthat comes close to how people brake, gas, hadnbrake, steer, make a turn, spin, drag etc in real life

in short if you wanna have fun race win the race you take forza..

if you wanna have a feel how a real ife car react you take GT...

Sorry. I'm a big fan of the GT series but Forza is harder. With all assists of, and high A.I. Forza is hard, one bad mistake and it's race over.

im pretty sure your not a gt fan you would know the difference

like i said gt is not a race game its a real life simulator thats the difference

sure you can race but the main thing is simulate real life

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[QUOTE="-wii60-"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]GT, forza should be compared to the need for speed series not GTlegalize3


:| please explain why..

gt is the only ''game'' actually its not a game but a real life simulatorthat comes close to how people brake, gas, hadnbrake, steer, make a turn, spin, drag etc in real life

in short if you wanna have fun race win the race you take forza..

if you wanna have a feel how a real ife car react you take GT...

Valid points - Forza is still a simulation racer however, so the poll remains

on a side not, as much as I agree that GT has the edge on the race physics, both games are flawed. GT's lift off oversteer is vastly OTT from what I remember

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[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="-wii60-"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]GT, forza should be compared to the need for speed series not GTfreshfighter83


:| please explain why..

gt is the only ''game'' actually its not a game but a real life simulatorthat comes close to how people brake, gas, hadnbrake, steer, make a turn, spin, drag etc in real life

in short if you wanna have fun race win the race you take forza..

if you wanna have a feel how a real ife car react you take GT...

Sorry. I'm a big fan of the GT series but Forza is harder. With all assists of, and high A.I. Forza is hard, one bad mistake and it's race over.

Want real racing try F1 on the ps3 with real damage it's race over not like forza that keeps going. You go on pc and GTR2 and rFactor will show you how bas a sim forza 2 is. Forza 2 is fun like GT but sims now that's funny to me after playing on pc with a good wheel.
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#14 legalize3
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[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="-wii60-"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]GT, forza should be compared to the need for speed series not GTangryfodder


:| please explain why..

gt is the only ''game'' actually its not a game but a real life simulatorthat comes close to how people brake, gas, hadnbrake, steer, make a turn, spin, drag etc in real life

in short if you wanna have fun race win the race you take forza..

if you wanna have a feel how a real ife car react you take GT...

Valid points - Forza is still a simulation racer however, so the poll remains

on a side not, as much as I agree that GT has the edge on the race physics, both games are flawed. GT's lift off oversteer is vastly OTT from what I remember

sure youwont get 100% real life but gt is way more close to real life hands down

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[QUOTE="angryfodder"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="-wii60-"]

[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]GT, forza should be compared to the need for speed series not GTlegalize3


:| please explain why..

gt is the only ''game'' actually its not a game but a real life simulatorthat comes close to how people brake, gas, hadnbrake, steer, make a turn, spin, drag etc in real life

in short if you wanna have fun race win the race you take forza..

if you wanna have a feel how a real ife car react you take GT...

Valid points - Forza is still a simulation racer however, so the poll remains

on a side not, as much as I agree that GT has the edge on the race physics, both games are flawed. GT's lift off oversteer is vastly OTT from what I remember

sure youwont get 100% real life but gt is way more close to real life hands down

Yes I agree - I also think GT's graphics look more real, if that makes sense.

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#16 legalize3
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Yes I agree - I also think GT's graphics look more real, if that makes sense.angryfodder

its notthe graphics its more the way the car reactlike it should be in ''real life''

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#17 rybe1025
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Why even compare the games. By the time GT5 even comes out I would not be shocked if Forza 3 is out.
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#18 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Yes I agree - I also think GT's graphics look more real, if that makes sense.legalize3

its notthe graphics its more the way the car reactlike it should be in ''real life''

You mean bumper cars and bad AI for GT and a real car sim for Forza.
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#19 angryfodder
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[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Yes I agree - I also think GT's graphics look more real, if that makes sense.legalize3

its notthe graphics its more the way the car reactlike it should be in ''real life''

When I said about the graphics, that was a seperate/new point.

I agree that the handling in GT is more "real life"

I also think the graphics in GT are more "real life"

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#20 ChiChiMonKilla
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Why even compare the games. By the time GT5 even comes out I would not be shocked if Forza 3 is out. rybe1025
Forza 2 just came out and GT5 is due in 2008 I don't think forza 3 will be out even by 2009.
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#21 legalize3
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[QUOTE="legalize3"]

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Yes I agree - I also think GT's graphics look more real, if that makes sense.rybe1025

its notthe graphics its more the way the car reactlike it should be in ''real life''

You mean bumper cars and bad AI for GT and a real car sim for Forza.

yes 300 mph with a old timer volvo hitting a wall and get a scratch....

you call that realistic ?

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#22 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Why even compare the games. By the time GT5 even comes out I would not be shocked if Forza 3 is out. ChiChiMonKilla
Forza 2 just came out and GT5 is due in 2008 I don't think forza 3 will be out even by 2009.

It is slated for late 08 or early 09.
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#23 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Yes I agree - I also think GT's graphics look more real, if that makes sense.legalize3

its notthe graphics its more the way the car reactlike it should be in ''real life''

You mean bumper cars and bad AI for GT and a real car sim for Forza.

yes 300 mph with a old timervolvo hitting a wall and get a scratch....

you call that realistic ?

OMG do not even try and make fun of Forza's damage. It is a joke for GT to even be thought of as a sim racer with no damage at all. Even games like Saint's Row and Crackdown had damage that effected driving and GT can not do that. What a joke of a simulater driving game GT is.
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#24 -MoOkS-
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GT

- better cars

- more cars

- better tracks

- better graphics

- more realistic driving ( in real life you dont go around the streets crashing into other cars so thats why GT has no damage )

- more options

- longer game

FORZA

- ugly custom paint jobs

- cartoony plastic graphics

- damage, :lol:pointless reallly since the aim of the game is to come 1st, which would mean any decent player wouldnt crash at all

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#25 -MoOkS-
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it's obvious from my list that GT > Forza
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#26 rybe1025
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it's obvious from my list that GT > Forza-MoOkS-
Try again look at what GT last scored. 8.9. Aww no AAA for GT :lol:

http://www.gamespot.com/search.html?type=11&stype=all&tag=search%3Bbutton&om_act=convert&om_clk=search&qs=gt4

meanwhile Forza has got two 9.2 in a row baby. AAAx 2 :lol:

http://www.gamespot.com/search.html?qs=forza

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#27 angryfodder
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more realistic driving ( in real life you dont go around the streets crashing into other cars so thats why GT has no damage )

damage:lol: pointless reallly since the aim of the game is to come 1st, which would mean any decent player wouldnt crash at all

-MoOkS-

I think your points were valid apart from these.

In real life they race on tracks, not streets and in high speed motor racing crashing is an aspect of the sport.

I think forza handles crashing and "offs" in a better way than GT. In forza alot of the time you'll spin out of control when you hit a wall - in GT hitting a wall is an effective way to corner as it doesn't even slow you down

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#28 crunchUK
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forza. aside from the fact that it looks better. it's far, far more realistic and far more customizable. and not in the chavvy NFS way. You need to tweak and upgrade parts of the car to get it fast as possible without it changing class. and there's loads of cosmetic options. F-O-R-Z-A
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#29 TTDog
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GT just bored the life out of me... hideous little game.

Forza's just a lot more fun to play.

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we all no GS has gone downhill since gt4 and mgs3 in reviews
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#31 legalize3
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[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Yes I agree - I also think GT's graphics look more real, if that makes sense.rybe1025

its notthe graphics its more the way the car reactlike it should be in ''real life''

You mean bumper cars and bad AI for GT and a real car sim for Forza.

yes 300 mph with a old timervolvo hitting a wall and get a scratch....

you call that realistic ?

OMG do not even try and make fun of Forza's damage. It is a joke for GT to even be thought of as a sim racer with no damage at all. Even games like Saint's Row and Crackdown had damage that effected driving and GT can not do that. What a joke of a simulater driving game GT is.

look buddy gT is not a crash game ill buy burnout for that

PD said if the yadd crash they wanna add it as realistic as possible not forza like...

look im not bashing foza its a fun game to get to the finish 1st

GT si all about how it ''should'' feel when drining a ferrari

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#32 legalize3
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forza. aside from the fact that it looks better. it's far, far more realistic and far more customizable. and not in the chavvy NFS way. You need to tweak and upgrade parts of the car to get it fast as possible without it changing class. and there's loads of cosmetic options. F-O-R-Z-AcrunchUK

you have never played GT thats for sure

GT is not a game

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#33 ChiChiMonKilla
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Yes I agree - I also think GT's graphics look more real, if that makes sense.legalize3

its notthe graphics its more the way the car reactlike it should be in ''real life''

You mean bumper cars and bad AI for GT and a real car sim for Forza.

yes 300 mph with a old timer volvo hitting a wall and get a scratch....

you call that realistic ?

F1 on the ps3 has real damage !!

F1 laughs at forza 2 so called damage lmao !!

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GT si all about how it ''should'' feel when drining a ferrari

legalize3

You can't drive ferrari's in the GT games

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#35 legalize3
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[QUOTE="legalize3"][

GT si all about how it ''should'' feel when drining a ferrari

angryfodder

You can't drive ferrari's in the GT games

GTHD

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#36 angryfodder
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F1 on the ps3 has real damage !!

ChiChiMonKilla

F1 on PS3 is not a GT game or part of this poll

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F1 on the ps3 has real damage !!

ChiChiMonKilla

F1 on PS3 is not a GT game or part of this poll

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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

legalize3

yes 300 mph with a old timervolvo hitting a wall and get a scratch....

you call that realistic ?

OMG do not even try and make fun of Forza's damage. It is a joke for GT to even be thought of as a sim racer with no damage at all. Even games like Saint's Row and Crackdown had damage that effected driving and GT can not do that. What a joke of a simulater driving game GT is.

look buddy gT is not a crash game ill buy burnout for that

PD said if the yadd crash they wanna add it as realistic as possible not forza like...

look im not bashing foza its a fun game to get to the finish 1st

GT si all about how it ''should'' feel when drining a ferrari

Does not matter if it is a crash game or not. Fact is that some still call GT a driving sim is a joke. Sim stands for simulation so to simulate real life. If real life drivers do not try to crash but it does happen and when it does happen the driver does not just bounce off a wall with no problems at all.

Forza also has better AI then GT does.

One of the reasons people think GT has more cars because they give you 20 of same kind of car. Forza gives you ONE car of each style and lets the player make it into as many ways as he wants. Including awsome player paint jobs. Forza gives far more ways to upgrade their cars then GT does.

Look there is a reason why Forza has been AAA both times and last GT was not. GT was great when that was the main driving sim but it is not anymore and there is better driving sims out now.

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#40 angryfodder
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[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

[QUOTE="legalize3"][

GT si all about how it ''should'' feel when drining a ferrari

legalize3

You can't drive ferrari's in the GT games

GTHD

........is not released yet, therefore you have not played it and you cannot bring it to this poll

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#41 angryfodder
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[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

[QUOTE="legalize3"][

GT si all about how it ''should'' feel when drining a ferrari

legalize3

You can't drive ferrari's in the GT games

GTHD

........is not released yet, therefore you have not played it and you cannot bring it to this poll

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#42 klausklaus
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Actually i never owned a Ferrari, but i used to drive a Porsche for about 2 years.

And believe me, it feels nothing like GranTourismo. Your points are plain stupid, legalize. Did you ever sit in a Sportscar? They dont nearly react like those videogame ones. Even your "second real life" GT is no exception.

Despite, Forza is about the same as realsim goes. Its probably not 100% real life, but its as close as GT for sure.

So, take a deep look at your avatar and think about posting again, when you dont even have the slightest clue. Btw, you actually contradict yourself concerning the point you made about car-damage.

Last time i saw a race, crashes and damage wasnt the main part of it.

Actually, if you really want to play a simulation, go buy a PC and play GTR2 its as close as reality as it gets. GT is not a simulation, even if this word is in its subtitle.

But hey, as you believe everything someone says and obviously not even own a drivers license (well, i guess that from your post) you'll probably believe me if i say:

"I crashed that named Porsche with 50 in a wall ... it was wrecked totally."

You really want damage like that in a game? You couldnt eben realize online play with that.

Next time, please think of your posts and if you're really sure about what you are writing is true. (Man, why did i even read his posts)

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#44 legalize3
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[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="angryfodder"]

[QUOTE="legalize3"][

GT si all about how it ''should'' feel when drining a ferrari

angryfodder

You can't drive ferrari's in the GT games

GTHD

........is not released yet, therefore you have not played it and you cannot bring it to this poll

it is buddy

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#45 legalize3
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Actually i never owned a Ferrari, but i used to drive a Porsche for about 2 years.

And believe me, it feels nothing like GranTourismo. Your points are plain stupid, legalize. Did you ever sit in a Sportscar? They dont nearly react like those videogame ones. Even your "second real life" GT is no exception.

Despite, Forza is about the same as realsim goes. Its probably not 100% real life, but its as close as GT for sure.

So, take a deep look at your avatar and think about posting again, when you dont even have the slightest clue. Btw, you actually contradict yourself concerning the point you made about car-damage.

Last time i saw a race, crashes and damage wasnt the main part of it.

Actually, if you really want to play a simulation, go buy a PC and play GTR2 its as close as reality as it gets. GT is not a simulation, even if this word is in its subtitle.

But hey, as you believe everything someone says and obviously not even own a drivers license (well, i guess that from your post) you'll probably believe me if i say:

"I crashed that named Porsche with 50 in a wall ... it was wrecked totally."

You really want damage like that in a game? You couldnt eben realize online play with that.

Next time, please think of your posts and if you're really sure about what you are writing is true. (Man, why did i even read his posts)

klausklaus

who said GT emulates real life 100 % ?

i said its the most close to real life then anyracesimulator you spit on me

look buddy i have been born with racecars its my hobby i know what im talking about....

fist notice the difference between forza and gt and then talk...

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forza should be compared to , need for speed, formula one, PGR whatever

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But it isn't - its being compared to GT. If you are confused, please refer to the topic title

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#47 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="legalize3"]

forza should be compared to , need for speed, formula one, PGR whatever

angryfodder

But it isn't - its being compared to GT. If you are confused, please refer to the topic title

I would like him to just explain how GT is a better driving simulator then Forza 2.
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#48 caseypayne69
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GT is the sliver spoon of racing games. The rest just feel arcade ish. Plus how can you call 2 games in a roll a series compared to something with 4 games.
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#49 ChiChiMonKilla
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F1 on the ps3 has real damage !!

angryfodder

F1 on PS3 is not a GT game or part of this poll

So stop acting like forza's damage is so great it's not much better than gt in that area.Both do a poor job in this area also the object of the game is to not crash. Also stop calling these games racing sims F1 on the ps3 is better and GTR2 and rFactor own everything on console.
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Plus how can you call 2 games in a roll a series compared to something with 4 games.caseypayne69

Series, sequence, succession are terms for an orderly following of things one after another