Gran Turismo Sport Won't Let You Save Your Game In Offline Mode

Oh that's totally fine, because it's Sony

I don't care too much about that, but the lack of single player content is what puts me off buying it anytime soon. It shouldn't even be full priced with such a lack of content.

@charizard1605: "GamesRadar+

Oct 17, 2017

Gran Turismo Sport is a bona fide virtual motorsport and that’s awesome. But single-player modes are lacking and it’s demonstrably outshone by Forza Motorsport 7 in virtually every area"

Only 4 reviews at metacritic buts below 80/100 already. Doesn't look like its going to threaten Forza

It kind of shocks me, I'd assume the majority of racing fans prefer the offline/single player experience.

I love forza, but rarely touch the multiplayer component, if they removed a lot of SP features, I'd probably never buy another Forza again.

I wonder why they focused on multiplayer, if they added a big career mode, this game would be killing atm.

I'll probably still pick it up, it's been ages since I popped in a GT game disc

and a pit crew!

Looks like both MS and Sony decided to make their racing franchises lesser games. GT is even more surprising and disappointing. I still bought F7 but I won't touch GT.

It makes sense from their standpoint that the FIA is recruiting people from this and doesn't want to recruit cheaters, but as a result, it's also kind of a bummer.

Also the servers have not been down for this game, surprisingly. Have you been playing it?

They were trying to be like iRacing. Esport stuff.

@sirdad: For me is fantastic on track. But I really dislike the mods, loot boxes and pretty much everything outside racing it self.

loot boxes

You've probably got a point there. But I think that PD is basically placing themselves in the position of the trailblazer in this situation. They want to introduce e-sports, like the real thing, to console gamers. And I do agree about the separate SP experience. It should be deeper, if they're going to offer it at all. I'm sure it will come in time, but the point remains. SP gamers are getting shafted a bit.

You cows are always trying to justify everything Sony does. Just image if it were MS how you'd be all over it bashing day in and day out. BTW e-sports has already been introduced and GT is by no means a hardcore SIM. Stop being hypocrites for once cows

Easy, dude. I've extensively called out PD several times already. Online-only save when the game offers offline mode? BS. Slim to nothing offline mode, with a more or less robust online mode? BS. A VR component that offers solely 1-1 mode, and basically garage viewer? BS (though not as bad as the other BS, seeing as the VR is at least handled pretty well).

Damned if you do, damned if you don't...

It's like, did I not criticize the game at all? Am I allowed to offer some praise amidst criticism? Is it possible to not be labelled a hypocrite in this freakin' place?

@charizard1605:

Why you didn't quote this one because that's the reason?

"The reasoning behind the move has to do with the linkup between Gran Turismo and the FIA, the international organization that runs world motorsport. FIA-recognized e-sports are an integral part of the game, so keeping everyone's saves in the cloud is meant to keep everyone honest and above-board. But the move raised eyebrows in the Ars office as offline single-player content in console games is rarely restricted in this manner."

Because the reasoning doesn't matter?

@charizard1605:

Maybe it does. It's FIA, you know.

It's not a bad idea at all for the competitive side of the game, but they really should compartmentalize the two sides of the game then.

Lots of people buy GT strictly for the offline modes. Some people buy GT just for car porn, don't even care about the git gud aspect. I fully appreciate what they're going for here, but the approach sucks and will surely piss off a large chunk of their player base. It's almost like SFV all over again, it'll likely be a superb game, but one that only appeals to more dedicated competitive fans. These companies chasing e-sports almost seem oblivious to the fact that you can have a competitive focused title while still appealing to your broader fanbase.

I literally don't care, as an end customer neither should you.

what name calling? lemmings is the official nickname for Xbox fans here. And funny how you tell me that I don't have an argument and completely ignore my argument that MS was going to make the whole console to require online not just one game. That's like 10 times more shadiness.

The difference is all the cows here are acknowledging that this is shady go back to Forza's thread and see how many lemmings bashed MS for making the VIP and loot crate rip offs. On the contrary, practically all were defending it. That's why lemmings are the worst fanboys this gen.

@charizard1605: While it's a bummer, it would save some hairs from graying to understand that the FIA does not want to recruit from a database of people that includes cheaters - and good on them for finding a way to eliminate cheaters!

@ConanTheStoner: This is how I feel about it. It makes sense from their standpoint and it's sort of a bummer, and the turn to more competitive players might alienate the more casual base. On a positive note, will this mean that people won't commit suicide on every corner online? Also I think the way Capcom punishes rage quitters on SFV is ace. I witnessed brother play people on GGPO who would reset the arcade *every* time they lost. **** those scrubs.

If true, this game is going to get hammered, despite their intentions.

This is a good idea. There should be different game modes professional vs normal gamer. Maybe GT7 will pursue this.

This is bulls*it if true. Don't care who does it whether it be Sony or MS, this is nonsense. Not spending a penny on this.

LOL. GT Sport is pissing on gamers hands. LMAO and some Sony loyalists are enjoying the golden shower....Sad

@pinkanimal: again Microsoft was upfront on DRM at e3, got lynched immediately, and CHANGED. Which is a 4 year old matter.

Sony is doing this RIGHT NOW but you don't care because they weren't upfront, they waited till the game came out and let the players find out for themselves and yet aren't doing anything about the negative feedback which was shown during beta of this game.

And again I said that was shady and Sony should do something about it, you on the other hand are defending the loot crates on Forza 7 in this same thread. I'm not the hypocrite here.

@mowgly1: @charizard1605:

Maybe it does. It's FIA, you know"

I don't care if it's GOD, if a player wants to save their game needing to be online is stupid. If this were Forza you wouldn't be bending over backwards to handstand blow MS, like you are Sony.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha so much babybackballbagbullshit! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

@pinkanimal: I don't defend loot boxes, I just don't care, if devs wanna make money off idiots who wanna pay real life money to beat a game or get something early then so be it. Now if it's loot boxes that make it a pay to win game like star wars battlefront 2 or gta 5 by making the in game grind super long to get people by loot boxes or shark cards then yes I am against loot boxes.

Does every game all of a sudden deserve a 10/10 if they opt. to not have loot boxes??

I didn't even know you can earn credits or level progression in Arcade Mode, I don't think you can. I still think it is an alright game. I have only played 2 hours of arcade so far. If you have good/fast internet or VR the game is worth it imo. The VR in the game is only slightly better looking than Drive Club VR, but a little bit can go a long way. The cars handle better in GTS than in Drive Club VR.

In Arcade mode you can race against AI and time trial. Time trial is pretty fun. VR is also in arcade mode.

There is a mandatory 12GB patch if you want to access the online stuff like Campaign/objectives. I think when you do objectives you progress in level and that unlocks tracks even in Arcade Mode. At the start you only have 4 or so tracks in Arcade mode unlocked. Once you level up (online campaign) you can go offline and play more tracks in Arcade mode.

Overall I think the game is alright. If you have good internet or VR than it is worth full price. If you don't have any of those wait for a sale if you are interested in a racing game. I'm going by Canadian prices of $79.99, American is what $59.99. $59.99 isn't a lot.

@ahmedkhan1994:"if devs wanna make money off idiots who wanna pay real life money to beat a game or get something early then so be it."

Yep, can't blame these companies for charging for online pay, DLC, micro tractions, loot boxes etc.

Consumers are buying so why stop.

Exactly. It's like two different games. What I'm wondering is if it is possible to have two save files, one for online, where you can only save online (thus preserving the anti-cheat measure), and one for offline where you can only save offline. Not sure if that's plausible. I've never seen it done before. But it would please everybody, I think.

@PSP107: to be fair, if i had to choose id go with microtransactions over loot boxes which are luck based. Still I've never felt the need to use real life money for in game content so it doesn't bother me.

@ahmedkhan1994: "I just don't care"

So why are you crying saying that people should be outraged at GT? What if many people like you don't care either about how GT uses online? They might say, I already pay for online so I don't care if the game requires it. Why is the "I don't care" ok for the Forza ripoff and not for the GT shadiness?

@pinkanimal: so now "always online" which is what Microsoft was rip to shreds for but it's okay for Sony is somehow equivalent to, again I don't know how many times I'll have to repeat, OPTIONAL MICROTRANSACTION/ LOOT BOXES?!

I wasn't gonna buy the game anyway. Even if I intended to, Super Mario Odyssey, Assassin's Creed: Origin, & Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus are all on Oct. 27, I just won't have time to do anything else cause I'm buying everything on Oct. 27 :(

Oh so now because it is "optional" then it is ok? Everything is optional, son. The GT always online is also optional, just don't buy the game the rest of the games are offline on PS4, there's your option. Or just stick to the offline arcade modes, another option. Don't be a hypocrite and measure both companies with the same bar.

@pinkanimal: you have Sony's dick so far up your ass it's not even funny. What you just said is equivalent to how Microsoft told everyone in 2013 that the Xbox 360 is the option for people without internet.

And wtf is the point of playing a game offline when the content wont save?

And why should the bar be set lower for Sony?

@ahmedkhan1994: first you cry about me insulting you when I didn't and now you go full batshit insulting all of a sudden. I guess hypocrisy is your thing.

Who's setting the bar lower for Sony? Then again Sony never set their whole console as an always online machine so Sony didn't yet reach those levels of shadiness. And if anything I see cows here are much more critical of GT than lemmings were of Forza. In fact lemmings were defending even here even the VIP crap. So if anything, it is lemmings setting the bar to low for MS.

@pinkanimal: yeah and all you can do is cry about 4 year old xbox policies that never went into effect while sony is shoving those same policies down your throat now by making small changes like this offline save data until it accumulates. Watch the next GT have no offline at all, what Then?

All these alts...

@ahmedkhan1994: lol now you suddenly can see the future? Sony has 1 game with the online requirement and it is mostly because FIA asked for it and I don't know how many games without online requirements and suddenly it's going to become the norm because of this? Don't be stupid.

I didn't even mention MS policies of four years until you brought them up. Don't be mistaking, you're the one doing all the crying here.