Gamepro's top 26 RPG's of all time

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#1 Posted by poptart28 (64 posts) -
I have not seen a list so atrocious in my lifetime. They picked FFVII as their number one RPG of all time. This game to me is comparable to Battle Arena Toshinden. All glamour and glitz but no real substance. Real games stand the test of time but FFVII did not for me anyways. Another problem I had with the list is the fact that they had Legend of Zelda a link to the past and Ocarina of time in their picks when a true gamer knows these games are not even RPG's at all. The list was all over the place and one of my favorite RPG's which was Panzer Dragoon Saga, did not make the list. Dragon Quest was another series that did not make the list either if I recall correctly. Sorry for not adding a link to the page so I guess you guys will just have to find it yourselves. LOL
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#2 Posted by Slyprince (1315 posts) -
Link?
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#3 Posted by stereointegrity (12100 posts) -
most people would agree that FF7 is the best RPG....with Chrono Cross and FF3 and FF8 and so many others...
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#4 Posted by ArisShadows (22784 posts) -

most people would agree that FF7 is the best RPG....with Chrono Cross and FF3 and FF8 and so many others...stereointegrity

No they wouldn't

And link, tc?

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#5 Posted by Planeforger (17827 posts) -

Torment's only at #22? I won't even bother reading the rest of it.

As for the link... http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/207777/

*Edit* Ok, so I gave in and viewed the next page...and they ranked Oblivion over BG2 and Torment? Ahahahahahahah-urgh.:|

*Edit 2* I respect the fact that they put the Ultima series in the top ten, but putting Mass Effect anywhere near the top 26 RPGs of all time is a bit of a travesty, too.

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#6 Posted by ArisShadows (22784 posts) -

Torment's only at #22? I won't even bother reading the rest of it.

As for the link... http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/207777/

*Edit* Ok, so I gave in and viewed the next page...and they ranked Oblivion over BG2 and Torment? Ahahahahahahah-urgh.:|

Planeforger

What about Fallout 1 or 2?

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#7 Posted by Hippostrike (1014 posts) -

I hate it when people call Zelda an RPG series.

Final Fantasy VII isn't even close to being the best RPG. After a while I just wanted to murder Cloud in his sleep.

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#8 Posted by naruto7777 (8059 posts) -
no link and of course The FF series is the best
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#9 Posted by ArisShadows (22784 posts) -

no link and of course The FF series is the bestnaruto7777

Only if you havent played many rpgs.

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#10 Posted by beenieman40k (321 posts) -
who gives these people jobs?
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#11 Posted by kozzy1234 (35966 posts) -
Pretty decent list, but COME ON!!!!! No Fallout 1 or 2 and yet Fallout3 makes the list?? Is that some error? Ridicolous.
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#12 Posted by sammyjenkis898 (28392 posts) -
I'm glad Skies of Arcadia is on that list. That game is so underrated.
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#13 Posted by -TheSecondSign- (9298 posts) -

Man, hermits here have made me really want the original Fallouts. But the pack that you can get them in online doesn't work with Vista.

For 19 bucks I'm willing to try both the first Fallout game and Tactics.
Is there are way to get it to work on Vista?

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#14 Posted by Planeforger (17827 posts) -

Man, hermits here have made me really want the original Fallouts. But the pack that you can get them in online doesn't work with Vista.

For 19 bucks I'm willing to try both the first Fallout game and Tactics.
Is there are way to get it to work on Vista?

-TheSecondSign-

You can get the three games for $18 US off gog.com, and they claim to be Vista compatible.

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#15 Posted by Josh5890 (1025 posts) -

I'm sorry but this list is too controvertial. Understand that I'm not an RPG buff and every Top # list will be different but honestly...

1. Pokemon Red and Blue should be on there, not Diamond and Pearl, they definatley made the larger impact. 2. How could FF12 be on there? I guarente that if I polled 100 random gamers, AT LEAST 95 would put 6, 8 or even 10 far ahead of 12. That is just rediculous. 3. Where is the love for Phantasy Star. 2 or 4 could've easily made any top 26 list. 4. Yes, Fallout 3 looks like an awsome game, (I have yet to play it) but it has been out for a grand total of 1 week. Could someone at least what for it to stand the test of time a little bit before calling it the 6th greatest RPG of all time.

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#16 Posted by LightReflection (344 posts) -
It's pretty cool to hate on FFVII these days but it's still my favourite game and had a huge impact on me as a gamer.
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#17 Posted by Lyphe2k (3385 posts) -
WTF 26? You have to go buy either 5's or 0's when you make a list. It can't be like "top 34 games of all time".
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#18 Posted by Sword-Demon (7007 posts) -
umm since when was zelda an rpg?
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#19 Posted by DeathScape666 (8599 posts) -

Fallout 3 is the best WRPG of all time? Wow.

World of Warcraft being the best MMORPG of all time is no surprise.

Final Fantasy VII being the best JRPG of all time is just too predictable.

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#20 Posted by sammyjenkis898 (28392 posts) -

Fallout 3 is the best WRPG of all time? Wow.

World of Warcraft being the best MMORPG of all time is no surprise.

Final Fantasy VII being the best JRPG of all time is just too predictable.

DeathScape666

There's a reason why it's predictable..

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#21 Posted by DeathScape666 (8599 posts) -
[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

Fallout 3 is the best WRPG of all time? Wow.

World of Warcraft being the best MMORPG of all time is no surprise.

Final Fantasy VII being the best JRPG of all time is just too predictable.

sammyjenkis898

There's a reason why it's predictable..

I know.

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#22 Posted by krunkfu2 (4218 posts) -

I have no clue why classify the Zelda games as RPG's and if that list did than why isn't Majora's Mask on there?

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#23 Posted by Blue-Sky (10379 posts) -
The RPG genre in general is flexible enough change with time. There has never been a clear definition, but rather an informal agreement based on what presently exist.
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#24 Posted by Vaasman (13302 posts) -

Hmm this could quite possibly be the worst "best" list ever conceived.

Pokemon, oblivion, fallout 3, and super mario rpg are all better than planescape and BG2? No, just no.

Also where the hell is secrets of mana? I'm playing that now with 2 of my roommates, and it's more fun that most of the games listed.

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#25 Posted by ArisShadows (22784 posts) -

Hmm this could quite possibly be the worst "best" list ever conceived.

Pokemon, oblivion, fallout 3, and super mario rpg are all better than planescape and BG2? No, just no.

Also where the hell is secrets of mana? I'm playing that now with 2 of my roommates, and it's more fun that most of the games listed.

Vaasman

You have to say Pokemon Red/Blue are up there somewhere tho..

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#26 Posted by Vaasman (13302 posts) -
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Hmm this could quite possibly be the worst "best" list ever conceived.

Pokemon, oblivion, fallout 3, and super mario rpg are all better than planescape and BG2? No, just no.

Also where the hell is secrets of mana? I'm playing that now with 2 of my roommates, and it's more fun that most of the games listed.

ArisShadows

You have to say Pokemon Red/Blue are up there somewhere tho..

mmm maybe, but not diamond and pearl, not even close. I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but it's basically been the same game released every 2 years for the past 10, and throw in like 50-100 new pokemon with each iteration, the weirder and lamer, the better, and have 3 be legendary. So yea maybe red and blue, but nothing else.
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#27 Posted by Koalakommander (5462 posts) -
good to see FF12 get some respect
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#28 Posted by Cronaroth (3011 posts) -
[QUOTE="ArisShadows"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Hmm this could quite possibly be the worst "best" list ever conceived.

Pokemon, oblivion, fallout 3, and super mario rpg are all better than planescape and BG2? No, just no.

Also where the hell is secrets of mana? I'm playing that now with 2 of my roommates, and it's more fun that most of the games listed.

Vaasman

You have to say Pokemon Red/Blue are up there somewhere tho..

mmm maybe, but not diamond and pearl, not even close. I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but it's basically been the same game released every 2 years for the past 10, and throw in like 50-100 new pokemon with each iteration, the weirder and lamer, the better, and have 3 be legendary. So yea maybe red and blue, but nothing else.

while Red and Blue had the largest impact-I think Gold and Silver is the best personally.

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#29 Posted by suznjak (1810 posts) -
Once I saw Skies of Arcadia at 23 I stopped looking. That should be in the top ten.
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#30 Posted by Mystic_Legend (960 posts) -

I wouldn't be looking at Gamepro for the most well based "best ***** list". Just looking at the FPS one also, I was annoyed at this statement,

"The controls, graphics, sound, and online modes were all hugely influential -- this is another series that played a key role in the creation of Halo."

Why are they trying to label Halo as some holy coveted game? Oh and speaking of which, Halo 3 in the top 10? Before anyone flames me, I'll just simply say the Halo series is overrated. By no means are they terrible games at all, it's just the way people talk of how great it is, is severely overrated. Oh and where's the original Half-Life?

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#31 Posted by ArisShadows (22784 posts) -
[QUOTE="Vaasman"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Hmm this could quite possibly be the worst "best" list ever conceived.

Pokemon, oblivion, fallout 3, and super mario rpg are all better than planescape and BG2? No, just no.

Also where the hell is secrets of mana? I'm playing that now with 2 of my roommates, and it's more fun that most of the games listed.

Cronaroth

You have to say Pokemon Red/Blue are up there somewhere tho..

mmm maybe, but not diamond and pearl, not even close. I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but it's basically been the same game released every 2 years for the past 10, and throw in like 50-100 new pokemon with each iteration, the weirder and lamer, the better, and have 3 be legendary. So yea maybe red and blue, but nothing else.

while Red and Blue had the largest impact-I think Gold and Silver is the best personally.

I going to say Crystal, because I thought it took the best out of both those two. I also loved Yellow.

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#32 Posted by kozzy1234 (35966 posts) -

Im really enjoying Fallout 3 (it really surprised me), but come on Fallout 1 and 2 are better games.

Fallout 1 = 9.6 or 10

Fallout 2 = 9.5

Fallout 3 = 9

IMO of course
(I also enjoyed Suikoden 1,2 and Wild Arms more then Suikoden 3)

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#33 Posted by Mystic_Legend (960 posts) -
[QUOTE="Cronaroth"][QUOTE="Vaasman"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Hmm this could quite possibly be the worst "best" list ever conceived.

Pokemon, oblivion, fallout 3, and super mario rpg are all better than planescape and BG2? No, just no.

Also where the hell is secrets of mana? I'm playing that now with 2 of my roommates, and it's more fun that most of the games listed.

ArisShadows

You have to say Pokemon Red/Blue are up there somewhere tho..

mmm maybe, but not diamond and pearl, not even close. I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but it's basically been the same game released every 2 years for the past 10, and throw in like 50-100 new pokemon with each iteration, the weirder and lamer, the better, and have 3 be legendary. So yea maybe red and blue, but nothing else.

while Red and Blue had the largest impact-I think Gold and Silver is the best personally.

I going to say Crystal, because I thought it took the best out of both those two. I also loved Yellow.

I'm going to say that the original R/B/Y were timeless classics and I would never get tired of that game. IMO G/S/C was a faithful follow-up to the series and offered some very fun extras (The ability to go to Kanto was fantastic). However, R/S/E I was disappointed with, the series has gone downhill, but I still find the recent games fun, just no where near the quality the first 2 generations were at.

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#34 Posted by Juggernaut140 (36011 posts) -
That was one of the worst things I've ever read :lol:
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#35 Posted by 6matt6 (9726 posts) -

most people would agree that FF7 is the best RPG....with Chrono Cross and FF3 and FF8 and so many others...stereointegrity

you're kidding right?

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#36 Posted by Koalakommander (5462 posts) -

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]most people would agree that FF7 is the best RPG....with Chrono Cross and FF3 and FF8 and so many others...6matt6

you're kidding right?

it's pretty up there, i wouldnt be suprised. i dont believe there is a best, buy FF7 is definately one of the most popular RPGS in history.

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#37 Posted by MerisYaki (967 posts) -
@ FF12 "with one of the most memorable video game casts yet"

No, just no!

But I am pleased Grandia got on there I guess..*Shrugs*
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#38 Posted by foxhound_fox (97527 posts) -

[QUOTE="naruto7777"]no link and of course The FF series is the bestArisShadows

Only if you havent played many rpgs.


More like "any other RPGs."

The list is a joke... and not the funny "hah hah" kind either.
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#39 Posted by Donkey_Puncher (5083 posts) -

When the hell did Oot turn into an RPG?

Horrible list, especially with FF7 at the top.

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#40 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28915 posts) -
The fact they gave ff7 number 1 shows the list is crap.
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#41 Posted by Koalakommander (5462 posts) -

The fact they gave ff7 number 1 shows the list is crap.WilliamRLBaker

It's not even a contender for #1? Geez, give us your list.

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#42 Posted by Bigboi500 (35550 posts) -
Meh I'd give that list about a three out of ten. It had a few great RPGs on the list but left out too many good ones imo.
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#43 Posted by ArisShadows (22784 posts) -

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]The fact they gave ff7 number 1 shows the list is crap.Koalakommander

It's not even a contender for #1? Geez, give us your list.

I say something like Fallout 1 or 2 be number, hell even something as old as Wizardy. I probably be in the list, but not number 1 for sure.

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#44 Posted by ArisShadows (22784 posts) -

Meh I'd give that list about a three out of ten. It had a few great RPGs on the list but left out too many good ones imo.Bigboi500

Nice siggy.

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#45 Posted by Zenkuso (4090 posts) -

Mass Effect? Zelda? Fallout 3?

And how the heck on earth do these things out beat persona 3, dues ex, planescape torment, fallout 1 & 2, Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2, Skies of Arcadia, alundra, morrowind, wizardry 8, icewind dale, divine divinity, the witcher, vampire the masquerade: bloodlines, Arx Fatalis, gothic 2 & 3, daggerfall, Betrayal at Krondor, Eye of the Beholder, Arcanum, vagrant story, GRANDIA 2!!!!, dark cloud 2, etc

I could go on for ages about rpgs that wipe the floor with those titles, I wouldn't even class the zelda series as rpg its freakin action adventure.

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#46 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (12480 posts) -
Pathetic list. And No Ultima Underworld: Stygian Abyss, arguably the most influential RPG of all time, and no, it is not the same as Ultima series, it's a very different game.
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#47 Posted by deactivated-57dcbd90c2616 (497 posts) -
Not a very good list imo.
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#48 Posted by eqrk (124 posts) -
umm lmao anyone hear of Everquest? lol.... come on
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#49 Posted by skanjos (647 posts) -

no suikoden 1,2(best of series),no legend of dragoon,no alundra,no phantasy star 4,no breath of fire 3..........

and mass effect in.......a bunch of kids are doing lists these days.and yes ffvii deserves to be on top and if you dont agree you either played ffvi before and think ffvi is the best or you played ffvii after 4-5 years......

check out gta4 they gave it a 10,if they played it and review it now (after 5-6 months) it would get a 9 tops,imagine playing the epic ffvii 4years later,you wouldnt get the game ,thats how it is.at the time ffvii was released the only good rpgs out there for ps1 were suikoden 1 and breath of fire 3(see these games to see the difference that game had,a difference so great that wont happen again in gaming,except with generation change.)

ffxiii can make that impact again ,but we havent seen anything yet,also wkc seems great too,but other than that i am greatfull that i lived in the era of snes,ps1 and feel sorry for young gamers out there

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#50 Posted by poptart28 (64 posts) -
this list is epic fail when they decided to turn Ocarina of time into an RPG. It is very simple to determine whats an RPG and what games are not. If there is no leveling up a character in a game then that game is not an RPG plain and simple. Thanks for all the cool responses my fellow gamers