Gabe Newell says brain computer interface tech will allow video games far beyond what humans can comprehend

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#1  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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Fascinating interview

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/gabe-newell-says-brain-computer-interface-tech-allow-video-games-far-beyond-human-meat-peripherals-can-comprehend

Video interview in the link.

The head of US gaming company Valve Corporation says a future is fast approaching where video games will use data from people's brain signals to adjust the experience they get — and even a future where people's minds can be adjusted by computers.

Gabe Newell spoke to 1 NEWS about the future of brain computer interfaces (BCIs) — an area he and other Valve staff have studied for several years now — and talked about how Valve is working to put BCIs to use in the gaming sector.

Newell admits some of the ideas may seem incredible, and said some of the discussions he's having around BCIs are "indistinguishable from science fiction" — but according to him, game developers would be making a mistake by not investigating BCIs within the short-term future.

To help them to do that, Newell said Valve is currently working on an open-source BCI software project, allowing developers to begin to interpret the signals being read from people's brains using hardware like modified VR (virtual reality) helmets.

"We're working on an open source project so that everybody can have high-resolution [brain signal] read technologies built into headsets, in a bunch of different modalities," Newell said.

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Ah yes, I think Gabe has found the technological basis for the next Half-Life game. The next thing he wants to showcase.

Half-Life 3 confirmed.

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Gabe is calling us from the future: New Zealand.

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Judging by the gamers you see on the internet Valve would be better of developing an Anus Computer Interface.

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Kind of bummed they dropped Steam Controller without a follow up iteration.

Actually a pretty fucking great pad.

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#6 Telekill
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No thanks. I'm not hooking up my brain to Gabe-Tech.

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@Telekill said:

No thanks. I'm not hooking up my brain to Gabe-Tech.

Yea, what is next, he gonna strip naked in front of our virtual eyes?

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Yeah that doesn’t sound creepy and completely rife with problems at all. /sarcasm

Things are bad enough with companies trying to manipulate people into spending more money in their games already as is. I can only imagine what these same companies would do with literally having direct access into people’s brains. No thanks, I’ll pass. 😅

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I imagine Breitbart gamers will be battling identity crises...

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@lamprey263 said:

I imagine Breitbart gamers will be battling identity crises...

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@warmblur: yeah, scraping the bottom of the barrel is going to get interesting

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#12  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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@lamprey263 said:

@warmblur: yeah, scraping the bottom of the barrel is going to get interesting

The possibilities will be endless. I would love to be in full dive VR and be able to play old games in that mode like being Max Payne and shooting enemies in bullet time or be Tommy Vercetti and drive around Vice City. It's all a pipe dream now but we will most likely get there but I don't know if I will be still alive to see it hard to say.

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Can't wait.

Hook me up when it's almost Matrix like.

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@Archangel3371 said:

Yeah that doesn’t sound creepy and completely rife with problems at all. /sarcasm

Things are bad enough with companies trying to manipulate people into spending more money in their games already as is. I can only imagine what these same companies would do with literally having direct access into people’s brains. No thanks, I’ll pass. 😅

@SolidGame_basic said:
@Telekill said:

No thanks. I'm not hooking up my brain to Gabe-Tech.

Yea, what is next, he gonna strip naked in front of our virtual eyes?

It's good to see a few people still have sense (talking about the people above). Like, who on earth wants to run the risk of having their brains hacked and manipulated? Haven't we learned from all of the crazy movies (both live action and animated) that this kind of tech stems from? When is enough, enough? People in power are dictating the direction we're headed in and apparently, they're not wrapped too tight. Just because you're smart doesn't mean you're sane. Just because you're wealthy doesn't mean you're mentally fit to lead the less fortunate. Gabe, Musk, anyone attempting to convince you to plug your brain into a computer or inject billions of nano-sized machines into your skull is NOT mentally well. They've watched waaaaaaaaaaaay too many movies, read too many comics and have an agenda that goes beyond trying to help mankind. This is some "other shit" and if you're willing to relinquish your privacy (meaning every thought in your damn head) to play a fucking video...you're a fucking idiot!

Now if you'd excuse me, I got some gaming to do :)

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#15  Edited By commander
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@louixiii said:
@Archangel3371 said:

Yeah that doesn’t sound creepy and completely rife with problems at all. /sarcasm

Things are bad enough with companies trying to manipulate people into spending more money in their games already as is. I can only imagine what these same companies would do with literally having direct access into people’s brains. No thanks, I’ll pass. 😅

@SolidGame_basic said:
@Telekill said:

No thanks. I'm not hooking up my brain to Gabe-Tech.

Yea, what is next, he gonna strip naked in front of our virtual eyes?

It's good to see a few people still have sense (talking about the people above). Like, who on earth wants to run the risk of having their brains hacked and manipulated? Haven't we learned from all of the crazy movies (both live action and animated) that this kind of tech stems from? When is enough, enough? People in power are dictating the direction we're headed in and apparently, they're not wrapped too tight. Just because you're smart doesn't mean you're sane. Just because you're wealthy doesn't mean you're mentally fit to lead the less fortunate. Gabe, Musk, anyone attempting to convince you to plug your brain into a computer or inject billions of nano-sized machines into your skull is NOT mentally well. They've watched waaaaaaaaaaaay too many movies, read too many comics and have an agenda that goes beyond trying to help mankind. This is some "other shit" and if you're willing to relinquish your privacy (meaning every thought in your damn head) to play a fucking video...you're a fucking idiot!

Now if you'd excuse me, I got some gaming to do :)

facebook is straight out of a sci fi movie as well, frankly it's more historically striking, because propaganda was the biggest weapon during the world wars.

yet it is running rampant, i don't see why this wouldn't happen either. People have it too good, it's only when it will have hurt a lot of people over the times, that people will start to revolt, or adjust lawmaking.

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Gabe will try anything, well except make video games, especially those with 3 in the title.

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All of this sounds meh to me.

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@commander said:
@louixiii said:
@Archangel3371 said:

Yeah that doesn’t sound creepy and completely rife with problems at all. /sarcasm

Things are bad enough with companies trying to manipulate people into spending more money in their games already as is. I can only imagine what these same companies would do with literally having direct access into people’s brains. No thanks, I’ll pass. 😅

@SolidGame_basic said:
@Telekill said:

No thanks. I'm not hooking up my brain to Gabe-Tech.

Yea, what is next, he gonna strip naked in front of our virtual eyes?

It's good to see a few people still have sense (talking about the people above). Like, who on earth wants to run the risk of having their brains hacked and manipulated? Haven't we learned from all of the crazy movies (both live action and animated) that this kind of tech stems from? When is enough, enough? People in power are dictating the direction we're headed in and apparently, they're not wrapped too tight. Just because you're smart doesn't mean you're sane. Just because you're wealthy doesn't mean you're mentally fit to lead the less fortunate. Gabe, Musk, anyone attempting to convince you to plug your brain into a computer or inject billions of nano-sized machines into your skull is NOT mentally well. They've watched waaaaaaaaaaaay too many movies, read too many comics and have an agenda that goes beyond trying to help mankind. This is some "other shit" and if you're willing to relinquish your privacy (meaning every thought in your damn head) to play a fucking video...you're a fucking idiot!

Now if you'd excuse me, I got some gaming to do :)

facebook is straight out of a sci fi movie as well, frankly it's more historically striking, because propaganda was the biggest weapon during the world wars.

yet it is running rampant, i don't see why this wouldn't happen either. People have it too good, it's only when it will have hurt a lot of people over the times, that people will start to revolt, or adjust lawmaking.

Facebook is not hardwired into my brain. Facebook can not read and analyze my every thought and physically rewire my brain. This is NOT apples and oranges here. Facebook doesn't have jack shit on what they're proposing.

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#19  Edited By commander
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@louixiii said:
@commander said:
@louixiii said:

It's good to see a few people still have sense (talking about the people above). Like, who on earth wants to run the risk of having their brains hacked and manipulated? Haven't we learned from all of the crazy movies (both live action and animated) that this kind of tech stems from? When is enough, enough? People in power are dictating the direction we're headed in and apparently, they're not wrapped too tight. Just because you're smart doesn't mean you're sane. Just because you're wealthy doesn't mean you're mentally fit to lead the less fortunate. Gabe, Musk, anyone attempting to convince you to plug your brain into a computer or inject billions of nano-sized machines into your skull is NOT mentally well. They've watched waaaaaaaaaaaay too many movies, read too many comics and have an agenda that goes beyond trying to help mankind. This is some "other shit" and if you're willing to relinquish your privacy (meaning every thought in your damn head) to play a fucking video...you're a fucking idiot!

Now if you'd excuse me, I got some gaming to do :)

facebook is straight out of a sci fi movie as well, frankly it's more historically striking, because propaganda was the biggest weapon during the world wars.

yet it is running rampant, i don't see why this wouldn't happen either. People have it too good, it's only when it will have hurt a lot of people over the times, that people will start to revolt, or adjust lawmaking.

Facebook is not hardwired into my brain. Facebook can not read and analyze my every thought and physically rewire my brain. This is NOT apples and oranges here. Facebook doesn't have jack shit on what they're proposing.

No it turned the world into the ddr of the 80's where everyone can be a stasi operative and everyone a stasi target.

tapping into your brain would just be icing on the cake. The last place where you have privacy.

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#20  Edited By PC_Rocks
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What is he doing in New Zealand?

Oh and all the people who says Valve sits on their as$es doing nothing:

"We're working on an open source project so that everybody can have high-resolution [brain signal] read technologies built into headsets, in a bunch of different modalities," Newell said.

Who else does that and make it Open Source on top instead of proprietary.

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#21 PC_Rocks
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@SolidGame_basic said:
@Telekill said:

No thanks. I'm not hooking up my brain to Gabe-Tech.

Yea, what is next, he gonna strip naked in front of our virtual eyes?

Of you will be hooking it once they put it out the door and then Sony copies it after numerous failures ala still trying to copy Valve's knuckle controllers and keep failing at that.

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The Riddler wants me to do what now? Anyways though... yeah.. VR still completely sucks ass. Let's try to get that right and then go from there.

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@pc_rocks: Actually no. Even if Sony did it for PS6, 7, etc... I'm actually good with PS5 being the end of me being up to date with gaming. I'm damn near 40 years old and there are thousands of games for me to play and replay again. There are lines I won't cross and that's a pretty big one.