First look at Project CARS on the PS4

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#101 Posted by NFJSupreme (6468 posts) -

@m3dude1: we don't believe you, you need more people.

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#102 Edited by m3dude1 (2241 posts) -

@melonfarmerz said:

@m3dude1 said:
@Wasdie said:

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/05/01/first-look-at-project-cars-on-ps4/

Apparently it's still 1080p60. While the car models and shading look fantastic, the environments in Project Cars are usually pretty inconsistent even on the PC.

Still, if Project CARs can do 1080p60, I wonder what DriveClub is doing that it can't. My guess is the environments are far more detailed in DriveClub.

Also if you look at these things in their full size you can see some jaggied edges and whatnot, stuff that I usually don't see in PC screens. These came from the Playstation Blog on the Playstation Blog's Flickr account and the post was made by the Creative Director of the game. No reason to believe these aren't PS4 pictures.

Pictures:

1. the pc screens you see are massively downsized and sharpened in photoshop. to give you an idea of performance, at 4k resolution with no extra AA, 2 overclocked 780tis in sli averages 50 fps. heres some more benches

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Project-CARS-PC-238576/Specials/Project-Cars-Bechmarks-Grafikkarten-1106410/

so keep those numbers in mind when you see people parading around their aliasing free screenshots, because even at 4k you need to do a lot more to get rid of the aliasing.

2. driveclub is running at 30 fps because its on a different level graphically. top notch lighting and global illumination, high quality AO, an order of magnitude more geometry, shadows that dont look like the edge of a saw etc. also aside aside from the car models(which look good in pcars too), the assets in general are a generation ahead in driveclub.

Then how come it looks worse? I like how you can view 2 or 3 trailers and come to provide an explanation as to why Drive Club is 30fps and that there is an "order of magnitude" more geometry. And no your link gives no evidence. You get 10fps when you're barraging GTA IV and Skyrim with mods. Anyone who has Drive Club now has an alpha build, designed to run as the dev intended.

only the staunchest pc fanboys would consider pcars better looking than driveclub. the same people that think ue3 games look better than anything on ps4 so no surprise. trailers? entire gameplay races have been posted on gameryde. the environments on offer are so many leagues beyond pcars. the trees also arent shoplifted straight from a ps2 game like they are in pcars.

one of you pcars fanatics should post some screens with a framerate counter.

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#103 Edited by Wasdie (53429 posts) -

@m3dude1 said:

play dumb all you want, you know very well the pc screenshot thread on neogaf for example is nothing but massively downsized and sharpened pics. theres nary a jaggy in site in any of the pics in the entire thread.

If you're talking about the screenshots I posted in this thread, I got them from the Playstation Blog's flicker account, not neogaf. I really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. These are Playstation 4 screens. It's pretty darn obvious if you look at them. They are running 1080p with some sort of an FXAA or post-processing AA instead of MSAA or supersampling you can achieve on the PC.

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#104 Edited by scatteh316 (6856 posts) -

Bullshit.... I've used screen shots before in arguments with fan boys, especially picture #5

So they're not all PS4 shots...

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#105 Posted by m3dude1 (2241 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

@m3dude1 said:

play dumb all you want, you know very well the pc screenshot thread on neogaf for example is nothing but massively downsized and sharpened pics. theres nary a jaggy in site in any of the pics in the entire thread.

If you're talking about the screenshots I posted in this thread, I got them from the Playstation Blog's flicker account, not neogaf. I really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. These are Playstation 4 screens. It's pretty darn obvious if you look at them. They are running 1080p with some sort of an FXAA or post-processing AA instead of MSAA or supersampling you can achieve on the PC.

im not talking about the screens in this thread, as ive already stated. you specifically mentioned the pc images youve seen before with zero aliasing. i assumed you meant the ones you find in screenshot threads on various forums. im referring to those.

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#106 Posted by always_explicit (3379 posts) -

@shellcase86 said:

@always_explicit said:

The screens are great, no denying that.

The only thing I dislike is the "gloss" given to the finish of every single vehicle in modern racing games. If they are shooting for true realism this effect needs to be toned down, sure it makes for great car porn, but to me it removes a level of realism.

Still...im waiting for the game that makes me feel the need to drop monies on the PS4....maybe this could be it.

Same complaint. I noticed.this when they did the comparison of CARS vs real life. The game models are just way. way, way too shiny. Real life cars looked dull in comparison.

See there is so much emphasis placed on cutting edge graphics we have a situation whereby in game graphics are polished to the point where realism is lost. I would rather the unrealistic shine was toned down and replaced with a true to life representation, I think the lighting engines are primarily to blame.

When I drive my car sunshine doesn't cascade down the bodywork and glow so the people behind me feel they are watching a CGI movie. It gets covered in dirt from the road, flies. General grime, and thats what driving is no matter what you drive. Im not suggesting devs coat bugatti's in a realistic coat of bird shit on a coastal point to point but equally it would be nice to feel like the world has an impact on my "perfect" ride.

Glad I am not alone on this.

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#107 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (10669 posts) -

@ghostwarrior786: Its a multiplat. All versions will look like this.

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#110 Edited by m3dude1 (2241 posts) -

lmao yea, they are a dangerous bunch

best part is the pic is actually a pretty accurate representation of them on avg. i honestly dont get it. with how much they spend on their rig why cant they take a few bucks and go buy some toothpaste, mouthwash, soap and shampoo and shit and do some basic human maintenance

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#112 Posted by Suppaman100 (5250 posts) -

@m3dude1 said:

lmao yea, they are a dangerous bunch

best part is the pic is actually a pretty accurate representation of them on avg. i honestly dont get it. with how much they spend on their rig why cant they take a few bucks and go buy some toothpaste, mouthwash, soap and shampoo and shit and do some basic human maintenance

Yep that's the PC "master" race.

Inb4 butthurt hermits

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#113 Edited by groowagon (4543 posts) -

@scottpsfan14 said:
@m3dude1 said:

lmao yea, they are a dangerous bunch

best part is the pic is actually a pretty accurate representation of them on avg. i honestly dont get it. with how much they spend on their rig why cant they take a few bucks and go buy some toothpaste, mouthwash, soap and shampoo and shit and do some basic human maintenance

It's actually true. On average, If a PC gamer on a forum is willing to argue black is white in defense of his platform, he will most likely look like the image you posted. Most of them are so fucking stupid it's untrue. They neglect the basics and think that cranking up the resolution and AA is what makes the game better. They are on the prowl at all times in these threads so be careful people.

wow, because what you just posted was superiorly intelligent...

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#115 Edited by m3dude1 (2241 posts) -

yeah i know which one looks more like a proper human being.

in other news, its just another day in the life of pc gamers

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this is literally the only time they will ever go outside

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#116 Edited by groowagon (4543 posts) -

@scottpsfan14 said:

@groowagon said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@m3dude1 said:

lmao yea, they are a dangerous bunch

best part is the pic is actually a pretty accurate representation of them on avg. i honestly dont get it. with how much they spend on their rig why cant they take a few bucks and go buy some toothpaste, mouthwash, soap and shampoo and shit and do some basic human maintenance

It's actually true. On average, If a PC gamer on a forum is willing to argue black is white in defense of his platform, he will most likely look like the image you posted. Most of them are so fucking stupid it's untrue. They neglect the basics and think that cranking up the resolution and AA is what makes the game better. They are on the prowl at all times in these threads so be careful people.

wow, because what you just posted was superiorly intelligent...

Yep that's a kid who plays Xbox. Nice one. The other pic is the average PC die hard. That kid probably screams on XBL, but PC gamers are mostly grown men who shower once a month, if that. C'mon, they can't have that much of a life if they are willing to spend their hard earned money on a gaming PC.

Here's the thing, I enjoy PC gaming, but I really dislike some of the obnoxious die hards that I've encountered on this forum that don't know shit. They lack respect for anything but GabeN's cock.

wtf dude? i can claim just as easily that an average console gamer is kid who keeps wetting himself. keep in mind that this is System Wars. if you don't like, then please gtfo.

it's funny that console gamers here are throwing Mountain Dew at each other when arguing about the next graphics king games, and when a PC gamer comes in posting graphics that consoles can't handle everyone is suddenly like "well f*** you fat pc gamer! graphics don't make a game you idiot!"

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#117 Posted by MonsieurX (36672 posts) -

@m3dude1 said:

yeah i know which one looks more like a proper human being.

in other news, its just another day in the life of pc gamers

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this is literally the only time they will ever go outside

I don't see any computers around,could be consolites as well

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#118 Edited by m3dude1 (2241 posts) -

nope, those are all pc gamers trying to live vicariously thru whatever crappy pc exclusive(probably another horrid mmo or diablo type game)....its hilarious but a little sad.

@groowagon going with your sentiment that all console gamers are little kids, its normal for them to wet themselves. its not normal for you and your brethren to have sub 3rd world country hygiene and be horribly fat and/or out of shape whilst having chart topping levels of vitamin d deficiency when you have the means to afford a pc. we see the pics and videos of all the big lans every year. hell we just saw the live star citizen demo. i swear you could almost see the yellow fumes coming from the audiences mouths as they cheered.

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#119 Edited by MonsieurX (36672 posts) -

@m3dude1 said:

nope, those are all pc gamers trying to turn live vicariously thru whatever crappy pc exclusive(probably another horrid mmo or diablo type game)....its hilarious but a little sad.

@groowagon going with your sentiment that all console gamers are little kids, its normal for them to wet themselves. its not normal for you and your brethren to have sub 3rd world country hygiene and be horribly fat and out of shape when you have the means to afford a pc.

How do you know they are PC gamers?

You know them personally?

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#120 Edited by musicalmac (24889 posts) -

I'm not thrilled by extra triangles anymore.

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#121 Edited by m3dude1 (2241 posts) -
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we already know theres some serious LoL fans here, so odds are they are somewhere in this video. LOL they even hired real life admins LOL

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#122 Posted by MonsieurX (36672 posts) -
@m3dude1 said:
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we already know theres some serious LoL fans here, so odds are they are somewhere in this video. LOL they even hired real life admins LOL

we already know that you're stupid and trying too hard to troll

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#123 Edited by groowagon (4543 posts) -

@m3dude1 said:
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we already know theres some serious LoL fans here, so odds are they are somewhere in this video. LOL they even hired real life admins LOL

i'm not offended yet. please try a little bit harder.

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#125 Edited by ShepardCommandr (4796 posts) -

yawn racing games bore me to the point where i'd rather kill myself

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#127 Edited by groowagon (4543 posts) -

@scottpsfan14 said:

@groowagon said:

@scottpsfan14 said:

@groowagon said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@m3dude1 said:

lmao yea, they are a dangerous bunch

best part is the pic is actually a pretty accurate representation of them on avg. i honestly dont get it. with how much they spend on their rig why cant they take a few bucks and go buy some toothpaste, mouthwash, soap and shampoo and shit and do some basic human maintenance

It's actually true. On average, If a PC gamer on a forum is willing to argue black is white in defense of his platform, he will most likely look like the image you posted. Most of them are so fucking stupid it's untrue. They neglect the basics and think that cranking up the resolution and AA is what makes the game better. They are on the prowl at all times in these threads so be careful people.

wow, because what you just posted was superiorly intelligent...

Yep that's a kid who plays Xbox. Nice one. The other pic is the average PC die hard. That kid probably screams on XBL, but PC gamers are mostly grown men who shower once a month, if that. C'mon, they can't have that much of a life if they are willing to spend their hard earned money on a gaming PC.

Here's the thing, I enjoy PC gaming, but I really dislike some of the obnoxious die hards that I've encountered on this forum that don't know shit. They lack respect for anything but GabeN's cock.

wtf dude? i can claim just as easily that an average console gamer is kid who keeps wetting himself. keep in mind that this is System Wars. if you don't like, then please gtfo.

it's funny that console gamers here are throwing Mountain Dew at each other when arguing about the next graphics king games, and when a PC gamer comes in posting graphics that consoles can't handle everyone is suddenly like "well f*** you fat pc gamer! graphics don't make a game you idiot!"

The difference is , when a kid who plays console wets themselves (which is a totally random assumption), they get a shower and get changed. When a PC die hard does, they will bask in their own piss for days on end because they don't want to stop playing on their glorious game. It's funny because I'm generalizing, but I am not very far from the truth at all.

When PC gamers post game shots for graphics king, they post stupid games like modded GTA 5 or some modded 8 year old game that they think is more advanced than a PS4 game totally on the basis that it's on PC. It's stupid as ****.

this is getting so classy that i simply can't keep up. sorry, fella, i'm seriously out of words right now.

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#130 Edited by groowagon (4543 posts) -

@scottpsfan14 said:
@groowagon said:

@scottpsfan14 said:

@groowagon said:

@scottpsfan14 said:

@groowagon said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@m3dude1 said:

lmao yea, they are a dangerous bunch

best part is the pic is actually a pretty accurate representation of them on avg. i honestly dont get it. with how much they spend on their rig why cant they take a few bucks and go buy some toothpaste, mouthwash, soap and shampoo and shit and do some basic human maintenance

It's actually true. On average, If a PC gamer on a forum is willing to argue black is white in defense of his platform, he will most likely look like the image you posted. Most of them are so fucking stupid it's untrue. They neglect the basics and think that cranking up the resolution and AA is what makes the game better. They are on the prowl at all times in these threads so be careful people.

wow, because what you just posted was superiorly intelligent...

Yep that's a kid who plays Xbox. Nice one. The other pic is the average PC die hard. That kid probably screams on XBL, but PC gamers are mostly grown men who shower once a month, if that. C'mon, they can't have that much of a life if they are willing to spend their hard earned money on a gaming PC.

Here's the thing, I enjoy PC gaming, but I really dislike some of the obnoxious die hards that I've encountered on this forum that don't know shit. They lack respect for anything but GabeN's cock.

wtf dude? i can claim just as easily that an average console gamer is kid who keeps wetting himself. keep in mind that this is System Wars. if you don't like, then please gtfo.

it's funny that console gamers here are throwing Mountain Dew at each other when arguing about the next graphics king games, and when a PC gamer comes in posting graphics that consoles can't handle everyone is suddenly like "well f*** you fat pc gamer! graphics don't make a game you idiot!"

The difference is , when a kid who plays console wets themselves (which is a totally random assumption), they get a shower and get changed. When a PC die hard does, they will bask in their own piss for days on end because they don't want to stop playing on their glorious game. It's funny because I'm generalizing, but I am not very far from the truth at all.

When PC gamers post game shots for graphics king, they post stupid games like modded GTA 5 or some modded 8 year old game that they think is more advanced than a PS4 game totally on the basis that it's on PC. It's stupid as ****.

this is getting so classy that i simply can't keep up. sorry, fella, i'm seriously out of words right now.

It's the way it has to be. Someone has to knock these PC clowns off their high horse. I've known nothing like it. And they automatically assume that I am a consolite because I argue for the graphics of a console game or what ever. I'm just not blinded is all. I know what I see and actually know quite a lot on how these machines work. All you ever see these hermits doing is trash talking console games (mainly resolution and framerate), and saying that developers are wrong if they say something in favor of consoles. Am I wrong here?

COME ON dude! seriously?! you think lems or cows here are behaving any different? for starters, you can listen to yourself for a moment. you are complaining about hermit behaviour, but are you reading your own stuff?

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#132 Edited by groowagon (4543 posts) -

@scottpsfan14 said:
@groowagon said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@groowagon said:

@scottpsfan14 said:

@groowagon said:

@scottpsfan14 said:

@groowagon said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@m3dude1 said:

lmao yea, they are a dangerous bunch

best part is the pic is actually a pretty accurate representation of them on avg. i honestly dont get it. with how much they spend on their rig why cant they take a few bucks and go buy some toothpaste, mouthwash, soap and shampoo and shit and do some basic human maintenance

It's actually true. On average, If a PC gamer on a forum is willing to argue black is white in defense of his platform, he will most likely look like the image you posted. Most of them are so fucking stupid it's untrue. They neglect the basics and think that cranking up the resolution and AA is what makes the game better. They are on the prowl at all times in these threads so be careful people.

wow, because what you just posted was superiorly intelligent...

Yep that's a kid who plays Xbox. Nice one. The other pic is the average PC die hard. That kid probably screams on XBL, but PC gamers are mostly grown men who shower once a month, if that. C'mon, they can't have that much of a life if they are willing to spend their hard earned money on a gaming PC.

Here's the thing, I enjoy PC gaming, but I really dislike some of the obnoxious die hards that I've encountered on this forum that don't know shit. They lack respect for anything but GabeN's cock.

wtf dude? i can claim just as easily that an average console gamer is kid who keeps wetting himself. keep in mind that this is System Wars. if you don't like, then please gtfo.

it's funny that console gamers here are throwing Mountain Dew at each other when arguing about the next graphics king games, and when a PC gamer comes in posting graphics that consoles can't handle everyone is suddenly like "well f*** you fat pc gamer! graphics don't make a game you idiot!"

The difference is , when a kid who plays console wets themselves (which is a totally random assumption), they get a shower and get changed. When a PC die hard does, they will bask in their own piss for days on end because they don't want to stop playing on their glorious game. It's funny because I'm generalizing, but I am not very far from the truth at all.

When PC gamers post game shots for graphics king, they post stupid games like modded GTA 5 or some modded 8 year old game that they think is more advanced than a PS4 game totally on the basis that it's on PC. It's stupid as ****.

this is getting so classy that i simply can't keep up. sorry, fella, i'm seriously out of words right now.

It's the way it has to be. Someone has to knock these PC clowns off their high horse. I've known nothing like it. And they automatically assume that I am a consolite because I argue for the graphics of a console game or what ever. I'm just not blinded is all. I know what I see and actually know quite a lot on how these machines work. All you ever see these hermits doing is trash talking console games (mainly resolution and framerate), and saying that developers are wrong if they say something in favor of consoles. Am I wrong here?

COME ON dude! seriously?! you think lems or cows here are behaving any different? for starters, you can listen to yourself for a moment. you are complaining about hermit behaviour, but are you reading your own stuff?

Lems and Cows just spout fanboy shit. Hermits try to be know it all's and are the most contrary people ever. Can't have a rational argument with them without them resorting to calling people morons or peasants or whatever.

don't take it too seriously. you should know how petty all that name-calling crap really is. many PC gamers also play consoles, myself included (although i don't own any of the new consoles), because good game is a good game despite the platform. it's just that with PC i can often see the latest technological achievements first, even if it's a bit costly. that said, even if Crysis 3 looks as pretty as 14 kittens combined, it's a shit game, wich ultimately matters more.

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#137 Edited by Suppaman100 (5250 posts) -

@m3dude1 said:

yeah i know which one looks more like a proper human being.

in other news, its just another day in the life of pc gamers

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this is literally the only time they will ever go outside

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

This looks like an accurate representation of hermits. Thit is how they act outside their natural habitat, the basement.

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#138 Posted by remiks00 (3787 posts) -

@m3dude1 said:

lmao yea, they are a dangerous bunch

best part is the pic is actually a pretty accurate representation of them on avg. i honestly dont get it. with how much they spend on their rig why cant they take a few bucks and go buy some toothpaste, mouthwash, soap and shampoo and shit and do some basic human maintenance

Ah, there he is. Well, you've officially shown your true colors "m3Boarder32". I think it's too much of a coincidence that you two share the same post style (anti-pc garbage), as well as the same naming format. Also, way to generalize there guy, very smart; I'm sure everyone won't just scroll past your posts from now on & take you seriously. That is what we call "sarcasm" by the way. Go hide behind another ALT account "GioVela". Your acting skills suck btw. All of your personas are too similar, there all idiots...

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#139 Posted by m3dude1 (2241 posts) -

@walloftruth said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@groowagon said:

@scottpsfan14 said:

It's the way it has to be. Someone has to knock these PC clowns off their high horse. I've known nothing like it. And they automatically assume that I am a consolite because I argue for the graphics of a console game or what ever. I'm just not blinded is all. I know what I see and actually know quite a lot on how these machines work. All you ever see these hermits doing is trash talking console games (mainly resolution and framerate), and saying that developers are wrong if they say something in favor of consoles. Am I wrong here?

COME ON dude! seriously?! you think lems or cows here are behaving any different? for starters, you can listen to yourself for a moment. you are complaining about hermit behaviour, but are you reading your own stuff?

Lems and Cows just spout fanboy shit. Hermits try to be know it all's and are the most contrary people ever. Can't have a rational argument with them without them resorting to calling people morons or peasants or whatever.

Oh boy, all these good looking, well groomed and healthy console gamers, I'm so jealous now! I'm just a mere warrior for the "Master Race" and even though I have go to the gym five times a week, shower daily, eat healthy and have a girlfriend, I'm obviously fat, unhealthy, have no hygiene, no girlfriend and play PC games all day, thanks for that insightful comment!

lmao everyone on the internet is a gym superstar and dates a supermodel

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#140 Edited by Cloud_imperium (14291 posts) -

Looks pretty cool . However it is not hard to see jaggies here and there .

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#141 Posted by Kinthalis (5502 posts) -

Threads like this make me miss the moderated days of system wars. It's gotten to a pathetic point where it's just the same old trolls spewing hate.

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#142 Edited by g0ddyX (3914 posts) -

Pictures look phenomenal.
Could be the best car racing game, up there with the top visually.

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#143 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

@Suppaman100 said:

@m3dude1 said:

yeah i know which one looks more like a proper human being.

in other news, its just another day in the life of pc gamers

Loading Video...

this is literally the only time they will ever go outside

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

This looks like an accurate representation of hermits. Thit is how they act outside their natural habitat, the basement.

LOL.

I wonder who was doing the most Deeps there.

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#144 Edited by Console_Caesar (46 posts) -

@blackace said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

@MonsieurX said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

@MonsieurX said:

@console_caesar said:

And this just proves it, you don't need a $2000 PC to have real-life-like graphics, a $400 PS4 can do the same and no one will notice the jaggies when you're sitting on a couch.

xboxdone74 got banned?

Sure looks like it.

That's a sad day for SW

RIP xboxdone74

LOL!! Good riddance. He was nothing but a troll anyways.

Awh I'm sorry to inform you but he's not banned! :-)

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#145 Edited by hotdiddykong (2098 posts) -

Looks great, looking forward to playing it On my Wii U that is, fyi, there was a poll of the game by the devs on which version people are more interested in, the Wii U won with Steam OS right behind it. So if you do actually like the game and interested, you better not be hypocrites and just flat out not buy it.

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#149 Posted by Micropixel (1269 posts) -

This game looks great, but every version I look up shows the exact same pictures. So there's no way to know which version we're really looking at here.

Regardless, I'm very impressed with what we've been shown so far.