FFS please be excited for Far Cry 6

@ghosts4ever: My friend, Doom 3 is better in VR. It was a VR game before it became hipstery.

Far Cry 2 is a bad game.

I was living in lie. very deep lie my friend, when I was kid. a child in 2007/8.

general opinion was "Crysis was masterpiece"' and "Far cry 2 was bad" because Crysis was Peecee exclusive and far cry 2 was console game. back when you and me both were in gametrailers.com

but lets analyze it as grown up adult.

Crysis was false PC game. it was first PC exclusive that had regen health combine with cinematic gameplay and on rail segments. it was more consolized than actual console games.

Far cry 2 offer more and more freedom, more tactics, more challenge. never in a single mission FC2 had any hand holding elements. its all about exploration. the weather system alone owned entire Crysis. Crysis was just more polished than FC2 where it was better. everything else FC2 done better.

All Farcry games have been weaksauce, especially hur hur repetitive FC2. FC1 was ok for its time and Vaas was a really good antagonist in FC3, but that's all the praise the series would get from me.

FC2 was masterpiece. FC1 only ok for first few hours until mutants came.

FC3 was movie game and so is onward.

Crysis > Fary Cries

Yes, VR would make it a different experience... it would be worse. Let's be real here... Locomotion does not work well in VR. Room scale is great where you can move around naturally, but as soon as you try to add VR to traditional games it falls apart. People get sick. To combat that, there is the immersion breaking teleportation system that only works alright on dumbed down slower paced games. So, while I am not excited to play Far Cry 6, I would straight up refuse to play it in VR.

I am excited for Far Cry 6 and have enjoyed almost all of the games. New Dawn was meh. I think I want to wait for a price cut which should happen around BF I think.

That's not being real, that's you giving an opinion and trying to state it as fact. Sadly. With fluff behind it to make it sound more credible.

One word - Onward

Far Cry is no Quake or Doom, it's slow.

Only aspect that would need workaround is driving essentially, and that ain't exactly fast to begin with.

First off, that game looks like shit. Also, how many people can comfortably play it without getting sick? Need some strong VR legs for that kind of shit.

The actual "shit" aspect is the dumb AI and Facebook dumbing down the graphics for Quest. This is coming from someone who actually played it for 105 hours.

The gameplay (the important stuff) is spot on. With perfect VR implementation. With pacing directly comparable to Far Cry. Only with significantly better shooting.

And yes, a set of rounds can typically go on for 40 min to an hour. Longer for PVP.

What you're complaining about here is accessibility, throwing in subjectivity and hyperbole behind it.

Like, somehow teleportion is a no-no. Or games like Alyx can't be played with 1 hand lying in a bed to the point disabled people can play it.

Far Cry isn't some incredibly in depth game that's just too much for VR, it's grind under the illusion of depth. Which isn't the same thing.

Boat and cars would be the main, and likely, only problem.

@uninspiredcup: Come on dude, Onward pacing is nothing like Far Cry. It is like a slow paced mil-sim along the lines of ARMA/SQUAD mixed with Insurgency formula. Far Cry can get real crazy while taking on fortresses with a shit ton of enemies, climbing/vaulting, zip lining, grappling hook, hand gliding, vehicles, etc.. Also, I tried playing Half-Life: Alyx with regular locomotion and it made me sick. I switched to teleport mode and I was fine, but it is a dumbed down slow paced experience compared to traditional HL games.

I know that you have been obsessed with VR since adopting it later on, but it is nothing new for me. I got the Rift at launch and I have a Quest 2 as well. VR has become very affordable and accessible, but most people realize the limitations of VR and that is why it does not get crazy development support or sell as well as traditional gaming devices.

Imagine trying to play a game like Doom Eternal in VR. It just doesn't work. Stop living in the virtual reality and accept the true reality.... VR is not always a good way to play games.

The actual "fast" combat sequences, namely "take-downs" "Climbing" "zip lines" etc... of Far Cry are automated. Basically cutscenes. The player has little to no control other than tapping a key to activate it or occasional on the rails free-look designed to be accessible for control pads. This is something a game like Skyrim VR also has and works fine in VR.

The on-foot movement, bang bang, is directly comparable to Onward. In fact I'd argue it's even slower.

If you were talking about something like Doom: Eternal, I'd get it. That's better suited for flat-screen. But This? Aside from vehicals, na.

In the end though, even with VR helping make it feel fresh, that Ubisoft busy-work do the same shit over and over for eternity formula would still set in.

Far cry 3 to onwards for sure. and far cry 1 for sure.

but not better than far cry 2.

I've just realised I haven't bought a Ubisoft game in 4 years, since Steep in March 2017.

I haven't thought about it until now. I haven't been angrily boycotting them like I once did to EA; instead it's just been 4 years of apathy and boredom.

@uninspiredcup: Seriously, do you even watch what you post? How is that slower than Onward? The player is jumping over balconies, sliding around, sprinting, taking on multiple enemies out in the open, jumping and tossing shovels, etc...

Sorry, but you are a delusional VR shill that can not be taken seriously. You are in la-la land.

Can sprint in Onward, check the video or others. Roughly the same speed. "jumping over balconies, sliding", again, automated.

I was doing that in Skyrim VR about, 2 years ago, basic stealth perks, chaining backstab attacks, instant teleport etc..

RE-watching that, even crouching in stealth is faster with the perk. With roll on top of that.

Holy shit you can see enemies sillouete through walls after simply IDS'ing them once. Don't even need to clim towers anymore. Literally made for the 41y old guy with 2 wives, 4 jobs and 11 children that doesn't have the time to get good at video games.🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

@uninspiredcup:

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@uninspiredcup:

I allow you to borrow my gif to fight off uninspiredcup

I am seeing the PC version runs like poo, maybe if there is an outrage in the gaming community over it we could see big discounts for it soon.

You'll get it. This latest one sounds like Far Cry 3, only better.

@hardwenzen: I am very excited. I love all Far Cry games, especially 4 & 5. It is probably my favorite FPS series of all time.

Are you happy now?

Maybe when it's 20 bucks in a few months. and if i have nothing else to play... and if i'm in good mood... and if it scores well overall......

I usually like the Far Cry games but this one for me looks so dull.

According to GameSpot, a 7/10 "review in progress."

it took long to realize that Far cry games are dull.

FC5 was one of the most boring open world game i played last gen. couldnot play more than half n hour.

STALKER 2 (with tons of different mods of course) will make far cry obselete. modders going to change STALKER 2 almost every 6 month.

I struggled to beat 5 it was just overwhelming the story was interesting but it was just the same gameplay as 3 and 4. Not enough changed

Am gonna be too busy playing Metroid Dread. Maybe when this goes on a big sale I might pick it up. Im kinda over the 'huge busy-work sandbox game' type that Ubisoft endlessly recycles.

7 is good, I'll take it.

The game series is just mindless fun which is more or less what I want right now.

Though based on the review/s I read, it sounds like this should be the last installment in the franchise. It won't be--Ubisoft is going to Ubisoft--but it should be.

@strategyfn: Finally somebody whom I agree with completely. Yes, Far Cry 5 rules. And you are right about 5>4>2>3

But 73fps 1080p is still better than Switch performance, so don't be too disappointed. Lol.

I'm sure I'll get it eventually and then wonder why I waited so long. The problem is that for the first time in a couple years there are actually other games I want to play right now.

No thanks... I don't play these types of games anymore.

I’ve been wondering where 6 will fit in on that scale. It will be really tough to top 5.

It’s a tough call with me liking 4 over 2 since I really loved 2 but 4 is bigger and looks a little bit better.

Gamespot gave 6 a tentative 7/10 but I often give GS scored games an extra point.

In general. Every game RT is in CPU performance dives. sometimes as bad as 2/3 of the performance get sacrificed "ascent", or 1/3 cyberpunk or 1/2 for control.

The reason why people notice it now and not before is because ampere is fast enough now in RT that cpu bottlenecks start to show big time.

If you have a shit CPU... sure. Any decent 8C/16T CPU should be fine for RT. My 9900K is 3 years old and it has not been a bottleneck.

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@R4gn4r0k said:

Cancelling my preorder later today.

I'm not prepared for another unoptimized Ubisoft game.

73 fps on a RTX3090 on 1080p. Piss off!

@hardwenzen said:

😆😆😆😆😆Seriously?

yeah the game is horribly optimized:

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/far-cry-6-suffers-from-major-cpu-single-threaded-issues/

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I was looking forward to it, but based on this kind of optimization I'm most definitely cancelling.

check that 73 fps minimum on 1080p on a RTX3090

Ok I was gonna call BS on this. I played the game for a few hours last night. It played really well and I average around 80FPS @ 3840x1600 with every bell and whistle turned on ultra w/ ray tracing. Similar setup to the guy doing the benchmark...10900k w/ 3090, game is installed on a Samsung 970PRO NVMe drive. I went to test this. Same settings as I had before but dropped the rez down to 1080....I get the same frames/numbers that I had before......whaaaaaaat?

I watched part of the Easy Allies review, then felt like throwing up. Going to wait for a deep, deep sale.

A little extreme no? I am pretty sure if you found the game so repulsive, you wouldn't want to play it at any price.

That's based on a 9900k. Every CPU has this problem because that's just how RT functions.

The only people that do not have this issue, have weak gpu's sit at high resolutions where RT simple hits GPU bottleneck before CPU. If you got a 3080 and play at 1080p/1440p cpu bottlenecks will happen in titles big time.

The video from farcry 6 benchmark showcases exactly this low usage on the GPU because CPU gets hit.

RT demands more CPU resources, but I have never run into a CPU bottleneck when using RT. I usually play at 3440x1440 or 4K. I have also played at 1440p with RT. Who uses their 3080 at 1080p? That is just silly. You would only use a 3080 at 1080p for competitive gaming on a 240/360hz monitor. As for Far Cry 6, the game has shit CPU optimization and is hammering a single thread. This is independent of RT and is an issue with the game engine.

@uninspiredcup: I completed most of Crysis 3 by simply cloaking and dashing away from enemies. Far Cry has far more challenging gameplay. I enjoyed Crysis 2 though.

@uninspiredcup: VR 🤣 😆🤢🤮

Mehh based on the reviews and the poor pc performance, I’ll probably wait a bit before picking this, also am really swamped with games atm! So I’ll let Ubisoft sort out the bugs and then pick it up for half price around Christmas!

Skipping through the first hour i can't imagine how anyone could get excited for this forumulaic stale garbage.

I tried FC3 ages ago and it bored me to death about halfway through the game, every one since hasn't looked any better or any less boring.

I dunno what u are rambling about resolutions but u clearly have no clue how RT works.

Nobody with nvidia gpu's uses RT without DLSS or FSR, if you do the performance will tank massively or the game has some seriously bothered AMD version like deathloop or far cry 6 that basically can't even be called RT to start with as it looks worse then just prebaked shit at that point.

What DLSS does is lower the internal resolution and upscales it with AI, FSR does it without AI. So that means when u sit at 4k performance dlss u are basically rending at 1080p. Quality is 1440p.

This is why i made the statement 1080p/1440p, as without DLSS a actual RT game like ascent / cyberpunk / control will all feature massive performance hit to unplayable framerates.

Control for example enabling RT = ~45 fps at 3440x1440p. with DLSS quality its ~80 fps. Why? far lower resolution.

Go play 4k in cyberpunk with RT on see how that holds up without DLSS, aint happening. So your whole "u only play at high resolutions is not really the reality is it?" And u would have known this if you actually used RT in your life i highly doubt u did.

So back to my original statement that u somehow disagree with that RT doesn't hit CPU performance and a simple good modern half quality CPU will be fine. Well let me showcase you how its not fine and not a single CPU on the market can run RT at high refresh rates for shit because we need far faster CPU's to do this.

Here you go.

1:25 = no rt + dlss ultra settings = 140 fps 80% gpu usage at 3440x1440 = cpu bound as gpu won't see full taxation

2:20 = RT 3440x1440 without DLSS = 30-45 fps = 100% GPU bound

3:07 = RT + DLSS quality = 53 fps CPU Bound, as GPU is 78% taxated.

So CPU bottleneck with RT = 53 fps can't even hit 60. So hows this possible? RT destroys CPU performance. U see this in every games so no its not shit optimized in this specific title. and with DLSS its easy to see even at high resolutions how good your CPU holds up.

This is exactly what u see with far cry 6 only 70 fps with a 3090 yet it runs 60 fps at 4k. while 4k is far more demanding then 1080p, the fps gain should be far higher right at a lower resolution right? no not really because CPU bound.

This is why we need drastical improvement in CPU performance more then GPU performance at this point in time and anybody saying even a potato cpu can run every game without problems. Yea sure without RT, add RT into the mix and that potato cpu is dead.

Early 1hr impression. A fair rating for the game is anywhere from a 4-8/10.

I thought horses would be stupid but they save the game. I thought the alligator would be stupid but he saves the game with his gore.

It doesn’t feel like a Far Cry game to me at times and I think the backpack is stupid. Being a big fan of Far Cry I will still love this though. The game can be boring, but a real soldier once said war can be boring with short bursts of excitement so it is realistic.

Its especially realistic when you have guns shooting discs with soundtracks on them. Even more realistic when you have a pimped up rooster killing armed men. And the game must be REAL fun when the gore from an alligator is saving the game.