Fallout 3 is slightly overrated.

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Fallout 3 is a pretty good game. It did a lot of things well, but as I type this I can't help but feel that it needed more polish.

The biggest problem that this game was it's inability to captivate me into the lore and story. It didn't make me really careabout my characters. Heck, I didn't really care to much about my own character. I mean, let's take for example the girl whom you meet at the beginning of the game. I really thought they were going to expand on love kind of love story with her... but they don't. Even if they did continue it in an expansion, it's too late -- I don't care about her when F3 comes to an end.

Do my actions really impact the world? Slightly, but not noticably. Unless of course, you mean the random annoyances of stangers walking up to you and offering you an item. I want more. I want to see something more dramatic, so I care. I want to feel like the world got betterbecause of what I did. This is what the creators should have been striving for.

At the end of the day, I felt that while F3 was a good attempt at an open world game; it lacked the experience I would have hoped for. In fact, I'm suprised to say that many of the F1 and F2 fans were right... the predecessors made you feel, more a part of an organic world, then this one did. Every more suprising I say this... but the developers could learn a lot by drawning from Fable 2 -- granted the game is smaller in scale, the mechanics it puts forth, make you feel more engaged.

My last gripe... what is up with the lack of weapon and armor. I think I've played 3/4 of the game with the same weapons and armor. It's kinda lame. I want to be constantly upgrading, and noticably feeling myself get stronger.

"Slightly" is an understatement.

I thought it was one of the best WRPGs this gen. Also, mods.

Also, what sick person would want a love sideline with that girl in the beginning, that's even worse than picking Ashley over the blue chick in Mass Effect.

I think it's slightly under-rated.

I thought it was one of the best WRPGs this gen. Also, mods.

Also, what sick person would want a love sideline with that girl in the beginning, that's even worse than picking Ashley over the blue chick in Mass Effect.

BigDaddyPOLO

One way to look at it is: how many WRPGs are better or even as good as Fallout 3 this gen?

Right now, I can only think of the witcher and Oblivion...

I thought it was one of the best WRPGs this gen. Also, mods.

Also, what sick person would want a love sideline with that girl in the beginning, that's even worse than picking Ashley over the blue chick in Mass Effect.

BigDaddyPOLO

I think it's underrated. Easily the best game of 2008 for me. If I get bored -- I simply make new content with the GECK.Stevo_the_gamer

underrated?????? i dont think so. it recieve the highest number of game of year awards after gta4

I thought it was fun for the time I played it but I never bothered to finish it so I guess it wasn't that great.

Sure it could have better, but it's already great.

Well let's get something out quick: The story was horrible. You're looking for your dad find him then a bunch of stupid crap happens. Overall that part was the biggest letdown for me. I had 0 incentive to finish the mian quest. The sidequests are really good though, each is a little different and the rewards are cool. The weapons and armour are good but simply there isn't much variety until the very end. Once you get Vengance or the alien blaster the game becomes fun again. Overall I'd give it an 8.5

Depends how you play it i guess. I play it in a mindset of a lone man trying to survive and helping others as i go along, that just how i feel when im playing. It works because the atmosphere in the game is great, side quests, main quests, combat, and exploration all work out as well. First time i played i was focusing more on the main story, and it was good but not amazing, like you said there wasnt a big sense of accomplishment, i didnt feel like i did any good.

I am playing through it again though and it is better when you focus more on just wandering through the wasteland, for example helping resuce the lost people form big town, it actually felt terrifying making my way through the police HQ amongst a bunch of dead bodies, bones, and having to take out super mutants, and finally finding the surviors, escorting them both back safley. Just was awesome. Also, dont fast travel unless you dont plan on playing for awhile. If you have time, just walk everywhere and explore places you find along the way. The past fallouts were great because it gave you freedom and showed the recoil of your actions, while this game gives you freedom, but doesnt show that you've done anything to the world as a whole. Great game, but still could have been better if it was basically everything from the old fallout games, in first person, and with all the good things form this game such as VATS.

Yeah thanks for the spoiler warning.

FO3 WAS NOT a bad game, it was just lacking many of the great things from FO1-FO2.redbaron3

The only thing bad about Fallout 3 is the story other than that it's a brilliant game.

One way to look at it is: how many WRPGs are better or even as good as Fallout 3 this gen?

Right now, I can only think of the witcher and Oblivion...

Blue-Sky

Huh? I agree with The Witcher, but Oblivion was one of the worst RPGs of the gen. :|
Anyway, imo: The Witcher, NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer, King's Bounty, (and arguably) NWN2, Gothic 3 and Mass Effect were all better RPGs (and I'm probably forgetting a few - Drakensang and others).

Besides, your question is a bit pointless. This gen has been pretty terrible for RPGs, and we should be comparing Fallout 3 to Fallout 1 and 2 - two of the best RPGs of all time (in which case, yes, it is highly overrated).

I have the game and I couldnt get into it. I never did like WRPG.s and never again am I going to buy those games again. I prefer JRPG's.

"Slightly overrated"? Understatement of the century.

I still don't have the slightest idea how that game got a 9 here. I guess in GS, bad writing, unbalanced and shallow roleplaying, poor coding and a poor main quest makes for a "superb" RPG.

i really like the game, one question...when do i get the dog? i am pretty far in the game

i really like the game, one question...when do i get the dog? i am pretty far in the game

rofflecopter_

U get him in the junkyard

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i really like the game, one question...when do i get the dog? i am pretty far in the game

U get him in the junkyard

[QUOTE="rofflecopter_"]

i really like the game, one question...when do i get the dog? i am pretty far in the game

U get him in the junkyard

Fallout 3 is a complete disappointment compared to Oblivion. I loved Oblivion there is just so much to do with Shivering Isles, KotN, guild quests, main quests, side quests, area, and plenty of oblivion gates to clear. I mean I have played Oblivion for over 100 hrs and feel like I have just scratched the surface whereas I beat Fallout3 in 40hrs and don't really feel like I missed that much or have that much more to find that is worthwhile. I thought Oblivion had deeper combat with more weapons, range weapons + melee weapons, more armor, and magic. I also thought that the writing in Oblivion is better than the writing in Fallout3 (Dark Brotherhood > all fallout stories) . There was also more enemy types in Oblivion and I could go on and on but basically I just felt that Oblivion had so much more stuff available to you while Fallout3 seemed rushed.

I think it's slightly under-rated.

Bigboi500

easily one of the best games ive played.....after i get my 100% tho its gunna be hard to keep playing....since ps3 doesnt get DLC.

Its alright. Better than Oblivion at least.

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SquatsAreAwesom

Lol. OK. Aren't we all?

My last gripe... what is up with the lack of weapon and armor. I think I've played 3/4 of the game with the same weapons and armor. It's kinda lame. I want to be constantly upgrading, and noticably feeling myself get stronger.

SquatsAreAwesom

Um, did we play the same game because the last time I checked I got a locker full of weapons and a workbench that MAKES them. And when I first stepped out of vault 101, I wasn't able to punch a super mutants head off.

I hate to say this to people, but are you playing the game correctly? You don't feel yourself getting stronger? I'm at the level 20 cap and the only thing that even gives me pause is those friggin deathclaws.

warning:I am a critic

Fallout 3 is a pretty good game. It did a lot of things well, but as I type this I can't help but feel that it needed more polish.

The biggest problem that this game was it's inability to captivate me into the lore and story. It didn't make me really careabout my characters. Heck, I didn't really care to much about my own character. I mean, let's take for example the girl whom you meet at the beginning of the game. I really thought they were going to expand on love kind of love story with her... but they don't. Even if they did continue it in an expansion, it's too late -- I don't care about her when F3 comes to an end.

Do my actions really impact the world? Slightly, but not noticably. Unless of course, you mean the random annoyances of stangers walking up to you and offering you an item. I want more. I want to see something more dramatic, so I care. I want to feel like the world got betterbecause of what I did. This is what the creators should have been striving for.

At the end of the day, I felt that while F3 was a good attempt at an open world game; it lacked the experience I would have hoped for. In fact, I'm suprised to say that many of the F1 and F2 fans were right... the predecessors made you feel, more a part of an organic world, then this one did. Every more suprising I say this... but the developers could learn a lot by drawning from Fable 2 -- granted the game is smaller in scale, the mechanics it puts forth, make you feel more engaged.

My last gripe... what is up with the lack of weapon and armor. I think I've played 3/4 of the game with the same weapons and armor. It's kinda lame. I want to be constantly upgrading, and noticably feeling myself get stronger.

SquatsAreAwesom

I can't speak for your sense of involvement in the game. I just know that I disagree with you. I felt more ownership of the gaming universe with Fallout 3 mostly because of the freedom it afforded me while Fable 2 was a much more scripted and directed experience.

Honestly, having replayed Fallout 1 and 2 just before Fallout 3, I didn't feel they did any better of a job of making me feel invested in the setting.

Lack of weapons and armor? There were plenty of weapons and armor in the game. I was constantly scavenging off of fallen enemies and upgrading. It was only near the end of the game when I got to the power armor that I stopped scavenging for armor. Between scavenging and the constant repairs, that wasn't enough micromanagement for you? I think the game struck a good balance with variety and your interaction with your inventory. I have no problems there. You also have to understand that your own pace through the game dictates how quickly you gain access to good weapons/armor.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

It's a God awful Fallout game, but a God awesome game in itself.

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heretrix

Lol. OK. Aren't we all?

My last gripe... what is up with the lack of weapon and armor. I think I've played 3/4 of the game with the same weapons and armor. It's kinda lame. I want to be constantly upgrading, and noticably feeling myself get stronger.

SquatsAreAwesom

Um, did we play the same game because the last time I checked I got a locker full of weapons and a workbench that MAKES them. And when I first stepped out of vault 101, I wasn't able to punch a super mutants head off.

I hate to say this to people, but are you playing the game correctly? You don't feel yourself getting stronger? I'm at the level 20 cap and the only thing that even gives me pause is those friggin deathclaws.

I am with you as far as gameplay and leveling up go. But the main quest was a bit disappointing- I got much more excited over some side missions

One way to look at it is: how many WRPGs are better or even as good as Fallout 3 this gen?

Right now, I can only think of the witcher and Oblivion...

Blue-Sky

I'd say that The Witcher, Mass Effect, and NWN2 (dunno exactly what generation this should be considered from) are better than Fallout 3. IMO it's a good game (albeit hella overrated like Oblivion), but a mediocre Fallout game. 1 & 2 were definitely better. I wonder how Fallout: New Vegas will do with Obsidian(!!) at the head?

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I want to be constantly upgrading, and noticably feeling myself get stronger.

SquatsAreAwesom

there were no bosses in fallout 3

what kind of game doesnt have bosses?

if a game doesnt have boss fights it shouldnt be considered a game or a finished game

all you do is fight enclave and giants

there was one super giant mutant near the radio station but the lion clan defeated it for you*which was dumb*

there were no bosses in fallout 3

what kind of game doesnt have bosses?

if a game doesnt have boss fights it shouldnt be considered a game or a finished game

all you do is fight enclave and giants

there was one super giant mutant near the radio station but the lion clan defeated it for you*which was dumb*

Ciocio3I3

The 7 behemoths kinda count as bosses.

Fallout 3 is an awesome game and almost as immersive as Oblivion. That is for me and probably a matter of opion for the person playing them.

Depends on if you prefer future or past for your history.

My complaint with Fallout3 was that the protagonist had no soul - no action you take will have any affect on him/her. They go merrily on their way evil or good.

merrily is a poor choice of words too as my character showed little notion of emotion.

"Slightly overrated"? Understatement of the century.

I still don't have the slightest idea how that game got a 9 here. I guess in GS, bad writing, unbalanced and shallow roleplaying, poor coding and a poor main quest makes for a "superb" RPG.

aliblabla2007

it got a 9 because of the "bethesda" logo plastered on the front of the cover,in other words a extremely hyped game made by a big time mainstream developer.no other game whould've gotten away with same flaws,if it was a smaller team that made fallout 3,Kevin Van Tool wouldn't even hesitate to give this game a 7.5.

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"Slightly overrated"? Understatement of the century.

I still don't have the slightest idea how that game got a 9 here. I guess in GS, bad writing, unbalanced and shallow roleplaying, poor coding and a poor main quest makes for a "superb" RPG.

Kandlegoat

it got a 9 because of the "bethesda" logo plastered on the front of the cover,in other words a extremely hyped game made by a big time mainstream developer.no other game whould've gotten away with same flaws,if it was a smaller team that made fallout 3,Kevin Van Tool wouldn't even hesitate to give this game a 7.5.

I guess even fellow peers (referencing GDC) were fooled? Please it's laughable that people think an entire industry was brainwashed into thinking the game was good/great. Time to loosen up the tin foil caps, they might be cutting into the blood circulation. :|

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[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

"Slightly overrated"? Understatement of the century.

I still don't have the slightest idea how that game got a 9 here. I guess in GS, bad writing, unbalanced and shallow roleplaying, poor coding and a poor main quest makes for a "superb" RPG.

-RPGamer-

it got a 9 because of the "bethesda" logo plastered on the front of the cover,in other words a extremely hyped game made by a big time mainstream developer.no other game whould've gotten away with same flaws,if it was a smaller team that made fallout 3,Kevin Van Tool wouldn't even hesitate to give this game a 7.5.

I guess even fellow peers (referencing GDC) were fooled? Please it's laughable that people think an entire industry was brainwashed into thinking the game was good/great. Time to loosen up the tin foil caps, they might be cutting into the blood circulation. :|

when did I ever say it was some conspiracy?...nice strawman attempt though.

everyone knows bigger companies can get away with flaws,yet smaller companies will be torn to shreds for same flaws..not just games..in general..welcome to the real world.

you deny the bugs and performance problems in fallout 3?

[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

"Slightly overrated"? Understatement of the century.

I still don't have the slightest idea how that game got a 9 here. I guess in GS, bad writing, unbalanced and shallow roleplaying, poor coding and a poor main quest makes for a "superb" RPG.

Kandlegoat

it got a 9 because of the "bethesda" logo plastered on the front of the cover,in other words a extremely hyped game made by a big time mainstream developer.no other game whould've gotten away with same flaws,if it was a smaller team that made fallout 3,Kevin Van Tool wouldn't even hesitate to give this game a 7.5.

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[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

"Slightly overrated"? Understatement of the century.

I still don't have the slightest idea how that game got a 9 here. I guess in GS, bad writing, unbalanced and shallow roleplaying, poor coding and a poor main quest makes for a "superb" RPG.

-RPGamer-

it got a 9 because of the "bethesda" logo plastered on the front of the cover,in other words a extremely hyped game made by a big time mainstream developer.no other game whould've gotten away with same flaws,if it was a smaller team that made fallout 3,Kevin Van Tool wouldn't even hesitate to give this game a 7.5.

I guess even fellow peers (referencing GDC) were fooled? Please it's laughable that people think an entire industry was brainwashed into thinking the game was good/great. Time to loosen up the tin foil caps, they might be cutting into the blood circulation. :|

I think it's underrated. Easily the best game of 2008 for me. If I get bored -- I simply make new content with the GECK.Stevo_the_gamer