Doom Eternal will Raise the Bar - Says Id software

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"We could have done more, but I think we've looked at [DOOM] Eternal and said, 'How can we raise the bar in every aspect, from technology to design to world-building to the epic scope and scale to the multiplayer battle mode?'

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Doom Eternal almost makes Doom 2016 look boring.

"From the beginning our goal was making you fight in unbelievable locations, surprising you every step of the way,” says id Software’s Marty Stratton, producer of Doom Eternal. “From the very start to the final boss, players will be seeing things they’d never expect from a Doom game.” “It’s all about engagement,” says creative director Hugo Martin, a word the two developers use several times in our interview. “Not only do these moments achieve that from a visual perspective,” he adds, “but the mechanics contribute to it too.”

The Doom Slayer can now climb, grabbing hold of surfaces with a certain texture, which opens up the level design massively. He can dash in mid-air as well, crossing wide gaps and leaping up to climbable surfaces. “These new abilities are interwoven with our visual set-pieces, so it’s not just for show,” says Martin. “You have to think your way through the level design in Doom Eternal.”

As fun as the last Doom was, there was a monotony to it,” admits Marty Stratton. “In the later levels especially it felt like corridor, arena, corridor, arena

So it appears that id software are fixing the mistakes of Doom 2016 by making level design more large with less arnea and more based on exploration.

“There’s a lot of exploration and secrets, which are of course a big part of any Doom game. We want players to use their minds. There are some fun, simple, but engaging puzzles in there too. Puzzles with a small P. Combat puzzles, really. We really want the moments between the fighting to be interesting.”

This make me more super hype.

This could be Half life 2 of our generation as im not surprised id software are top tier studio who knows what they are doing.

Doom 2016 was masterpiece despite having arena lockdown. this one will be manage to make even bigger masterpiece if they did what they are promising.

It will definitely raise the bar. only 2 month left.

Sweet. The arena lockdowns needs to go.

Doom arena is no where near as bad as arena in serious sam and painkiller but yeah whatever it need to go.

Looking forward to doom eternal doom 2016 felt nearly perfect as a fps. Buttery smooth with great mechanics more of the same and I'll be happy.

Developer says it's game is awesome, more news at 11.

Well, it's not like Id Software will say it's gonna be shit now are they?

"From the beginning our goal was making you fight in unbelievable locations, surprising you every step of the way,” says id Software’s Marty Stratton, producer of Doom Eternal. “From the very start to the final boss, players will be seeing things they’d never expect from aDoom game.” “It’s all about engagement,” says creative director Hugo Martin, a word the two developers use several times in our interview. “Not only do these moments achieve that from a visual perspective,” he adds, “but the mechanics contribute to it too.”

The Doom Slayer can now climb, grabbing hold of surfaces with a certain texture, which opens up the level design massively. He can dash in mid-air as well, crossing wide gaps and leaping up to climbable surfaces. “These new abilities are interwoven with our visual set-pieces, so it’s not just for show,” says Martin. “You have to think your way through the level design in Doom Eternal.”

As fun as the last Doom was, there was a monotony to it,” admits Marty Stratton. “In the later levels especially it felt like corridor, arena, corridor, arena

Sounds interesting. Looking forward to hearing more!

I am still not clear on how its raising the bar.

It won’t live up to the hype. They won’t be able to be creative enough. I feel like the game will still focus on their arena type/section fights.

They might add some sections in between to make it seem different but it will be the same.

Maybe they add some dumb roller coaster segment. Or they have you climb some trees on mars when you find the hidden oasis. Meh.

I wasn't a big fan of Doom 2016. It was a pretty and slick game, but it could have been any other IP and been just as good. It being "Doom" I was expecting more.

For everyone except ghost, raising the bar will make it go from a good shooter to a great shooter..

This isn’t a masterpiece and most certainly wont be anywhere near the half llife 2 of this generation.....

This sounds like every recent fast first person shooter released.

Well STALKER SoC did suprassed Half life 2.

Its also called pr talk

Sure it will...

@ghosts4ever: nope.... don’t you ever get tired of being wrong over and over??

STALKER is non linear set in zone where you can explore entire zone with unbelievable atmosphere and weather effect and its incredibly challenging gameplay make it better than Half life.

@ghosts4ever: Lol...no it most certainly didn't....

@ghosts4ever: Stalker better then HL2 lol, I see your opinions are still absolute garbage lol.

@ghosts4ever: nope stalker I a buggy mess, with terrible weapons and a nonsense story...

@ghosts4ever: Can you describe this "unbelievable atmosphere". What exactly do you like so much about it?

STALKER? If you just play it, you'll know what everyone means when they say its' atmosphere is incredible. Story, graphics, sounds. All of it comes together in a way that fits the game perfectly and creates the perfect mood.

And thats why it blow Half life out of water.

even after decades, STALKER still age well while Half life starting to show its age.

@Litchie: But could YOU describe what sets it apart from other games?

Would anyone actually admit to lowering the bar?

I'm not a huge Stalker fan guy, but I'll tell you what set's it apart from the rest.

Its about "immersion" as what Litchie was trying to tell you. Trying to live in the world that's trying to kill you every step of the way. In a lot of ways, it's more like those survival games on Steam. There is a goal, but it's mainly about surviving and exploring what sets it apart from your typical survival today's standard games.

Stalker isn't tied down at all like most games. And what I mean by that is, the game doesn't set very strict parameters on what you can and can't do; where you can and can't go. It makes some things harder than others, sure, but there are ways to get past most of them. I like the Stalker series for the atmosphere & immersion, the challenging gameplay on max difficulty and the dynamic world that carries on with or without you that can create stories. You need to play it yourself and you'll understand why it get's many praises.

@davillain-: I have to admit I haven't played it, but the same description could be given to many other games (like Fallout or Skyrim). People seem to fall short when it comes to explaining why a game is better than the rest. Actually, the question was directed to ghost, who claimed the game to be far above the rest in terms of immersion (which is hard to believe) AND better than Half Life 2.

@Arkhalipso: Sometimes it's hard to describe things especially like gameplay immersion doubly if a person is a not native English speaker. I know it sounds like a cop out answer but it's what it is. Sometimes you just have to experience things.

Looking forward to it. DOOM (2016) is one of my favorite shooters of the decade.

And I couldn't agree more. Doom 2016 was so damn good and well optimized on PC, I kept replaying Doom as my only favorite fps shooter this gen has to offer. No doubt Doom: Eternal will not disappoint.

Serious Sam doesn't lock the player down like Painkiller, Shadow Warrior or Doom, enemies can attack from literally miles away.

Yeah it's one of the few shooters I still replay a lot, which speaks volumes because in terms of levels and stuff it's the most linear shooter. The key is in the gameplay not being repetitious.

Which is funny because there are a lot of shooters out there with open level design or open worlds that offer a fresh experience on the second and third playthrough, but the gameplay is stagnant.

@pc_rocks: "sometimes you just have to experience things"

Would it be reasonable to say the same about the games you people constantly hate on and haven't even played?

serious sam is worst example of arena shooters as it may have wide open area but it has literally no depts and enemies running at you and yelling "Arrrrghhhrhhghhg".

It actually has quite abit of depth to it's enemies compared to most FPS. Dodge the bull, take out the winged enemies, take out the ISIS suicide bombers, take out that guy at a distance spamming orbs at you will you deal with crowds etc..

The problem is it's terribly paced padding the shit out of maps coupled with really weak sauce weapons. A few are great, but most are very limp.

SS3 in particular didn't even seem to understand the initial appeal of the franchise turning it into some drab COD looking game with hit-scan enemies, reloading, running, iron-sights.

Serious sam has never been good series at all. they also have awful gunplay mechanics. its just not fun to play at any shape or form.

Shadow warrior 2013 game is what i consider better version of serious sam or painkiller.

yeah tbf i think dav has missed one of the key qualities of stalker and that's the horror element. that and it's incredibly bleak. the two things combine really nicely with the survival nature to create a pretty unique atmosphere. skyrim and fallout may be atmospheric but i've never felt tension in those games like i have with stalker. but it's a game whose whole is absolutely greater than the sum of its parts, and mods are utterly essential to get the most out of it. and it's definitely not as good as half life 2. not even close.

it doesn't need eternal to do that. the repetitive nature of the game does that on its own. hopefully id get the message that there's only so many times they can rinse the demonic presence detected lock down in effect thing without it losing all its impact

@Macutchi: One of the things that really elevates Stalker, much like the hotel sequence in Vampire: Bloodlines is that the horror segments are just that, segments of a larger game acting as punctuation than the entirety, making them all the more impactful compared to games where their sole intent is to consistently achieve these moments.

well put

Not really. :/ It's just really good at dragging you into its' world. English is not my first language, which also makes it harder to explain. You get a certain mood, a sense of dread, loneliness, among other feelings. I don't get these things from many games, but STALKER is one of them, and one of the best games at it.

I promise you'd get what people talking about its' atmosphere mean if you tried it out. Or read what someone else wrote who's better at explaining things than me. :P

exact same reason for me too.

infact its hard to explain everytime when someone ask me why game x is better than game y.

I said sometimes not always especially when talking about immersion or atmosphere besides the games I 'hate on' are usually the ones I played or played its prequels or have very good idea due to dev's history. I was trying to justify why Ghost couldn't answer the question because he's not even a native English speaker.

Cherry picking quote won't let your favorite games get a free pass.

Will get a 8 out of 10 for being more of the same.

This is why I don't take reviews seriously these days. Like some games truly have a if it ain't broke don't fix and Doom is one of them. If Doom was a yearly like an installment I could see it needing some exciting new feature but it is not so I say let the game prosper.

considering id has been dropping the ball ever since Bethesda buyout.......rofl.

Doom is the only thing they got "right" and that was after a complete do-over.