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#1  Edited By Salt_The_Fries
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I know TGS is supposed to be a Japan-centric event but after seeing today's Sony conference I was extremely underwhelmed by their game offerings - even in Japanese standards. TGS now stands for celebrating their own insularity that instead of being capable of setting the whole world on fire, are about as stale as next Call of Duty announcement.

Plus most of these games won't be out outside JP for now or forever.

If highlights of the conference are an expansion and a sequel to a Vita game and a remaster of an old game that might come to the West in 3 years then you should know something is wrong.

Thoughts?

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#2 Juub1990
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Didn't need that to confirm Japan is irrelevant. They've been irrelevant for the past 2 years. Nintendo flopped worldwide. PS4 is an american concept and still gets trounced by mobile games in the Japanese market. Xbox One is an American console through and through.

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#3 finalstar2007
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Not as irrelevant as Microsoft is this gen lol

Now lets look over the announcements and see which ones arent coming state wise shall we?

  • Kingdom Hearts 2.8= 100% coming to NA PS4 exclusive
  • Gravity Rush Remastered PS4 only= already confirmed for NA Feb 2016
  • Gravity Rush 2 PS4 exclusive 100% coming to NA
  • Star Ocean 5 PS4 exclusive only confirmed for NA
  • Danganronpa 3 100% coming to NA PS4 and Vita

  • Wold of Final fantasy already confirmed for NA on PS4 and Vita
  • Vanillaware new PS4 exclusive 100% coming to NA like any other vanillaware game by Atlus
  • NiOH PS4 exclusive its a Tecmo game so almost 100% coming to NA
  • Toukiden 2 PS4 exclusive 100% coming to NA

And MUCH more!

what does MS have? right they had no conference lel

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#4 Mr-Powers
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Joke thread? Or are you really detached from reality? People are already portbegging for those "irrelevant" games from the conference.

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#5 Ant_17
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Wow , why not ask if Europe is Irrelevant?

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#6 NoodleFighter
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People don't seem to take kindly to the new king of fighters

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@finalstar2007 said:

Not as irrelevant as Microsoft is this gen lol

Now lets look over the announcements and see which ones arent coming state wise shall we?

  • Kingdom Hearts 2.8= 100% coming to NA PS4 exclusive
  • Gravity Rush Remastered PS4 only= already confirmed for NA Feb 2016
  • Gravity Rush 2 PS4 exclusive 100% coming to NA
  • Star Ocean 5 PS4 exclusive only confirmed for NA
  • Danganronpa 3 100% coming to NA PS4 and Vita

  • Wold of Final fantasy already confirmed for NA on PS4 and Vita
  • Vanillaware new PS4 exclusive 100% coming to NA like any other vanillaware game by Atlus
  • NiOH PS4 exclusive its a Tecmo game so almost 100% coming to NA
  • Toukiden 2 PS4 exclusive 100% coming to NA

And MUCH more!

what does MS have? right they had no conference lel

Excellent post,

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@NoodleFighter said:

People don't seem to take kindly to the new king of fighters

No one really ask for 3D at all. 2D is what we expected.

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#9 Chutebox
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Damn, OP got rolled. . Like usual.

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#11  Edited By CanYouDiglt
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@finalstar2007 said:

Not as irrelevant as Microsoft is this gen lol

Now lets look over the announcements and see which ones arent coming state wise shall we?

  • Kingdom Hearts 2.8= 100% coming to NA PS4 exclusive
  • Gravity Rush Remastered PS4 only= already confirmed for NA Feb 2016
  • Gravity Rush 2 PS4 exclusive 100% coming to NA
  • Star Ocean 5 PS4 exclusive only confirmed for NA
  • Danganronpa 3 100% coming to NA PS4 and Vita

  • Wold of Final fantasy already confirmed for NA on PS4 and Vita
  • Vanillaware new PS4 exclusive 100% coming to NA like any other vanillaware game by Atlus
  • NiOH PS4 exclusive its a Tecmo game so almost 100% coming to NA
  • Toukiden 2 PS4 exclusive 100% coming to NA

And MUCH more!

what does MS have? right they had no conference lel

Almost that entire list is trash and games almost no one will care about. Even the few jrpgs that are released outside of Japan rarely sell well besides a few like Final Fantasy games and even those have been doing worse over the years.

Yes OP Japan is irrelevant and has been that way for awhile. There are just too many studios around the world now. Japan needs to catch up in many areas.

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@finalstar2007 said:

Not as irrelevant as Microsoft is this gen lol

Now lets look over the announcements and see which ones arent coming state wise shall we?

  • Kingdom Hearts 2.8= 100% coming to NA PS4 exclusive
  • Gravity Rush Remastered PS4 only= already confirmed for NA Feb 2016
  • Gravity Rush 2 PS4 exclusive 100% coming to NA
  • Star Ocean 5 PS4 exclusive only confirmed for NA
  • Danganronpa 3 100% coming to NA PS4 and Vita

  • Wold of Final fantasy already confirmed for NA on PS4 and Vita
  • Vanillaware new PS4 exclusive 100% coming to NA like any other vanillaware game by Atlus
  • NiOH PS4 exclusive its a Tecmo game so almost 100% coming to NA
  • Toukiden 2 PS4 exclusive 100% coming to NA

And MUCH more!

what does MS have? right they had no conference lel

@finalstar2007 said:

Does anyone even care for Halo anymore? its barely selling on amazon and intro trailer barely got any views :P

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#13 rogerjak
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@Ant_17 said:

Wow , why not ask if Europe is Irrelevant?

Came here to say this....Europe says hi

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@CanYouDiglt: Lol

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#17 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Superb trolling in making this thread before TGS actually happens. I also like how you speak for Japanese gamers lol what a joke.

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Well Gravity Rush 2 looks really cool from the trailer

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#20 kingtito
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@speak_low said:
@Aljosa23 said:

Superb trolling in making this thread before TGS actually happens. I also like how you speak for Japanese gamers lol what a joke.

I used to be fairly neutral regarding Lemmings, but man are they getting childish and annoying lately.

Let me guess, cows threads and trolling are ok though? Nothing annoying about the countless threads bashing everyone else right?

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#21 quakeknight1991
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This thread is hilarious considering E3 2015 was dominated by Final Fantasy 7 reamke, a japanese game.

We got in the Pre-TGS Sony conference announcementes of Gravity Rush 2, BloodBorne the old hunters and Ni-Oh which looks absolutely stunning and by the way TGS has not even begun so its safe to say that we may get a few more announcements for japanese home console games.

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#22 fully87
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A really hope Europe does not get left out with these great looking Playstation exclusives from Japan.

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#23 Ant_17
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@fully87 said:

A really hope Europe does not get left out with these great looking Playstation exclusives from Japan.

Apart from Yakuza , i think we're good with the rest.

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#24 LJS9502_basic
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@kingtito said:
@speak_low said:
@Aljosa23 said:

Superb trolling in making this thread before TGS actually happens. I also like how you speak for Japanese gamers lol what a joke.

I used to be fairly neutral regarding Lemmings, but man are they getting childish and annoying lately.

Let me guess, cows threads and trolling are ok though? Nothing annoying about the countless threads bashing everyone else right?

Man you cry a lot dude....

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#25 legendofsense
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You seem to have an obsession with Japan. This thread might be even more retarded than your "Is Sony/Playstation a Japanese Company?" thread.

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@Ant_17 said:
@fully87 said:

A really hope Europe does not get left out with these great looking Playstation exclusives from Japan.

Apart from Yakuza , i think we're good with the rest.

And that Phantasy Star Online 2 Ps4 port.

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#27 babyjoker1221
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Japan only matters to cows in SW. Japan has been largely irrelevant for quite some time outside of mobile games.

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#28  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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Wow, the damage control from lemming scum is real. They told themselves for months "Sony has nothing" then when Sony destroys MS' weak Gamescom in one fell swoop out comes the denial of reality.

Two shows left as well. Better brace yourselves, lems.

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#29 vvulturas
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I don't know how one could draw this conclusion from TGS. If anything, the exact opposite was shown. Fanboys these days...

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#30 LJS9502_basic
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@babyjoker1221 said:

Japan only matters to cows in SW. Japan has been largely irrelevant for quite some time outside of mobile games.

Two out of three console manufacturers are Japanese. Seems a foolish and not well thought out argument. And I'm not going to bother mentioning the Japanese game devs/publisher.

Foolish post is beyond foolish.

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#31 RR360DD
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Yeah the conference was garbage

Poor cows :(

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#32 demacabre
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Yeah, don't agree. That Bloodborne DLC trailer looked epic.

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As long as they announce Persona 5 it will be golden.

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#34 GrenadeLauncher
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@RR360DD said:

Yeah the conference was garbage

Poor cows :(

RR360OD with the damage control because he has N O G A M E S :)

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#35 misterpmedia
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Gonna wait until we see the inevitable Salt_my_salt thread about Sony's PGW showing how France is irrelevant.

Such a tasteless damage control downplay thread from what was a very successful conference from Sony.

The PS4 is going to be the only* console getting global software support and I guess people can't handle it lol

*Depending on if Nintendo seriously **** up the NX

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#36 GrenadeLauncher
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"S-Sony has nothing!!!"

"Bu bu but they didn't show anything I want!!!"

"J-Japan is irrelevant!!!"

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@mesome713 said:

As long as they announce Persona 5 it will be golden.

Persona 5 alone makes it worthwhile

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More like home consoles are becoming irrelevant other than media machines with CoD.

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@finalstar2007 said:

Not as irrelevant as Microsoft is this gen lol

Now lets look over the announcements and see which ones arent coming state wise shall we?

  • Kingdom Hearts 2.8= 100% coming to NA PS4 exclusive
  • Gravity Rush Remastered PS4 only= already confirmed for NA Feb 2016
  • Gravity Rush 2 PS4 exclusive 100% coming to NA
  • Star Ocean 5 PS4 exclusive only confirmed for NA
  • Danganronpa 3 100% coming to NA PS4 and Vita

  • Wold of Final fantasy already confirmed for NA on PS4 and Vita
  • Vanillaware new PS4 exclusive 100% coming to NA like any other vanillaware game by Atlus
  • NiOH PS4 exclusive its a Tecmo game so almost 100% coming to NA
  • Toukiden 2 PS4 exclusive 100% coming to NA

And MUCH more!

what does MS have? right they had no conference lel

There goes any chance of the PS4 passing the Wii U by the end of the year. Or next.

@LJS9502_basic said:
@babyjoker1221 said:

Japan only matters to cows in SW. Japan has been largely irrelevant for quite some time outside of mobile games.

Two out of three console manufacturers are Japanese. Seems a foolish and not well thought out argument. And I'm not going to bother mentioning the Japanese game devs/publisher.

Foolish post is beyond foolish.

One which was lead by an American with a western focus to stay relevant. Including a majority of western games at launch even for their native market.

Also there's Ouya and The Shield. Garbage or not they count.

@quakeknight1991 said:

This thread is hilarious considering E3 2015 was dominated by Final Fantasy 7 reamke, a japanese game.

Doesn't really have anything to do with well... anything. Especially since that was just a loud minority nostalgia blip that died out and will probably be lucky to sell over a third of the original.

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#40 LJS9502_basic
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@protomicroman: Uh no. Sony has always had BOTH Japanese and Western devs/pubs on their consoles. Which is probably why they lead most gens.

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@protomicroman said:
@quakeknight1991 said:

This thread is hilarious considering E3 2015 was dominated by Final Fantasy 7 reamke, a japanese game.

Doesn't really have anything to do with well... anything. Especially since that was just a loud minority nostalgia blip that died out and will probably be lucky to sell over a third of the original.

Yeah sure, the FF7 remake trailer on the official playstation channel in youtube has almost 12 million views but it is totally just a "minority". (sarcasm)

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So how bad is the shrill whining gonna be after successful a successful PGW and PSX?

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@Salt_The_Fries: I don't know. I actually thought the TGS conference was better then the E3 at least in terms of games. They even announced a price cut for Japan only. Didn't see that coming. Anyways, here were the games announced. I'm actually pretty psyched about several of these titles.

Bloodborne: The Old Hunters Expansion 11/24/2015

Everybody's Golf (Hot Shot Golf) (2016)

Uncharted 4 (March 18, 2016)

Gravity Daze (12/10/2016)

Gravity Daze 2 PS4 (2016)

For Honor (Ubisoft)

Assassins Creed: Syndicate (Ubisoft) 11/12/2015

Yakuza: Kawami (SEGA) 1/21/2016

Yakuza 6 (Fall 2016) Ryu Ga Gotoku demo)

King of the Fighters XIV (2016)

Just Cause 3 (2016)

Phantasy Star Online 2 (2016)

SW: Battlefront (11/19/2015)

Once Piece: Burning Blood (Bandai/Namco)

MS Gundam Extreme VS-Force (PSVita)

SangoKushi (PS4/PS3) 13 12/10 (Koei/Temco)

Toukiden 2 (2016 - Koei/Temco - PS4)

Nioh (Koei/Temco 2016 PS4)

World of Final Fantasy (2016 PSVita, PS4)

Star Ocean 5: Integrity and Faithlessness (SquareEnix) (2/25/2016)

Saga: Scarlet Grace (2016) PSVita

Kingdom Hearts 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue (SE -2016 PS4)

Dark Souls 3 (From Softare) 3/24/2016

Project Diva: Future Tone (SEGA) 2016

Tokyo RPG Factory game (2016 PS4/PSVita)

13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim (Atlus)

Biohazard 20th Anniversary (7 Biohazard games) 3/22/2016

Biohazard Umbrella Corps (2016)

Exist Archive - 12/2015 PS4/PSVita (Spike Chunsoft)

Another Game from Spike Chunsoft. Couldn't read the name PS4/PSVita)

Dragon Quest Heroes 2 (SE) PS4/PS3/PSVita

Dragon Quest Builders (SE) 1/28/2016

Montage of Indie games (Many that have already been released, but a few new ones too.)

Black Ops 3 (Nov 6)

Morpheus names changed to Playstation VR (meh, I liked Morpheus actually. I'm not sold on this VR yet.)

********************************************************************************

There were several new IP's like Nioh, For Honor, Dragon Quest Builders, 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim, Tokyo RPG Factory's game and Exist Archive +1 more from Spike Chunsoft. Then they announce a couple collector games. Biohazard 20th Anniv (with Biohazard 1-6 and Biohazard 0 and Kingdom Hearts 2.8 HD (with 3 Kingdom Hearts games). I'm stoked for Bloodborne: The Old Hunters, Toukiden 2, Gravity Daze and Gravity Daze 2 and Everyone's Golf (better known as Hot Shots Golf). I'm just hoping some of these new IP's makes it to the west. Nioh & For Honor both looked great. I want those 2 games on my PS4. In any case. Great show from Sony. I didn't fall asleep this time. The crowd didn't seem all that enthusiast about the games. No loud cheers or claps.

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yup. pretty much nothing entertaining comes form japan

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#46 ReadingRainbow4
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@darkangel115 said:

yup. pretty much nothing entertaining comes form japan

I could see you drowning in a puddle.

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@blackace said:

@Salt_The_Fries: I don't know. I actually thought the TGS conference was better then the E3 at least in terms of games. They even announced a price cut for Japan only. Didn't see that coming. Anyways, here were the games announced. I'm actually pretty psyched about several of these titles.

Nioh (Koei/Temco 2016 PS4)

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There were several new IP's like Nioh, For Honor, Dragon Quest Builders, 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim, Tokyo RPG Factory's game and Exist Archive +1 more from Spike Chunsoft. Then they announce a couple collector games. Biohazard 20th Anniv (with Biohazard 1-6 and Biohazard 0 and Kingdom Hearts 2.8 HD (with 3 Kingdom Hearts games). I'm stoked for Bloodborne: The Old Hunters, Toukiden 2, Gravity Daze and Gravity Daze 2 and Everyone's Golf (better known as Hot Shots Golf). I'm just hoping some of these new IP's makes it to the west. Nioh & For Honor both looked great. I want those 2 games on my PS4. In any case. Great show from Sony. I didn't fall asleep this time. The crowd didn't seem all that enthusiast about the games. No loud cheers or claps.

I forgot about Nioh. Yeah, that looked badass.

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Star Ocean, Persona 5 and Gravity Rush 2 made it exciting for me. *shrugs*

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#49  Edited By Shewgenja
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Gravity Rush 2, Ni-Oh, Yakuza 6, and FFXIV in VR pretty much crush every hope the XBone had of being relevant in 2016. ..and PSX is still ahead.

Lems, you guys are getting rolled and smoked like Colorado sticky. Sit the **** down.

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#50 QuadKnight
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It only proves how irrelevant the Xbone is worldwide. All those cool new Japanese games, and most of them will never see the light of day on Xbone.