Do you think FF7 remake will be better than Cyberpunk?

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#1 SolidGame_basic  Online
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I'm starting to think it will be. I really love the gameplay footage I've seen so far. You can tell this game will be fun to play. I'm not sure what to say about Cyberpunk other than CD Project Red made the Witcher games and I've never enjoyed their combat. As far as story goes, we already know FF7 will be epic because the original was amazing. Cyberpunk looks interesting but other than the setting, we don't know much else about it. So I'm going with FF7 on this one. What do you think, SW? Do you think FF7 remake will be better than Cyberpunk?

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#2 deactivated-5e90a3763ea91
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I'm pretty certain FF7 remake will be a better game than Cyberpunk. I mean even if the gameplay isn't perfect, what I've already seen actually looks much better than I'd expected.

Long dev times can be worrisome, but I think that it could pay off for this one.

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#3 lundy86_4  Online
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It's incomplete, so no. As much as they may make it a somewhat standalone game, it's episodic and 2077 is not.

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#4 uninspiredcup
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This is a very odd comparison.

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#5 Archangel3371
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Will I enjoy it more? Yeah, most likely. However Cyberpunk 2077 will probably still be a fantastic game as well and I’m sure that I’ll enjoy that greatly too.

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#6 Telekill
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I'm buying FF7 Remake and not Cyberpunk so... yes.

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#7 Pedro
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So, we are supposed to compare two different unreleased game genres and decide which of the two is better? Seriously? This type of question that tends to originate from the one an only faction.

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#8  Edited By Jag85
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Most likely yes.

Gameplay - FF7R looks better from what we've seen so far. The combat in FF7R looks quite fun and exciting, whereas the combat in C2077 looks quite dull like every other CDPR game.

Story - FF7R has the edge here, so far. FF7 has one of the all-time great RPG stories. Better than The Witcher series, IMO. Assuming FF7R is faithful to the original, it will be hard for C2077 to top its story.

Setting - They're roughly on-par. They both have well-crafted, dystopian sci-fi cyberpunk settings. Which are more interesting than the usual boring medieval fantasy RPG settings.

Content - C2077 has a clear edge. C2077 is a complete game, whereas FF7R is episodic. Still, each FF7R episode will reportedly have as much content as a full game. But I doubt it will have nearly as much content as a complete game of C2077.

Graphics - They're more-or-less on-par. The graphics look amazing in both FF7R and C2077.

Music - FF7R has a clear advantage. FF7 has one of the greatest video game soundtracks of all time. Highly unlikely will C2077 come anywhere close.

Overall - FF7R has the edge, so far.

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#9 Ghosts4ever
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No it wont be.

Cyberpunk definitely looks much better in literally every way.

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#10 npiet1
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@uninspiredcup said:

This is a very odd comparison.

Agreed but still no, cyberpunk is going to be so much better for the story alone.

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#11 Basinboy  Online
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Personally, yes.

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#12 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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FF VII I won't know until the complete game is out by 2077.

Now for real, it depends on taste. Both will probably be great. I expect Cyberpunk to appeal more to my taste.

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#13 deactivated-5f4e2292197f1
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I think FF7 will be the greatest game to come out of the East, and Cyberpunk best to come out of the west.

I'm counting everything next year as basically next gen, but do see them, Last of Us 2 and Halo Infinite, as clear deciders that next gen is gonna be greater than this gen.

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#14  Edited By DEVILinIRON
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Cyberpunk, baby!

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#15  Edited By pelvist
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Yes, without a doubt. Why are all hyperlinks blue? Thought my Monitor colours had inverted for a second.

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#16 Howmakewood
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One is a complete game and one is ff7remake

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#17 Metallic_Blade
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You are trying to compare a REMAKE of a game to a brand-new and unknown one. We know the story of FF7... there will be nothing really new to go by with it.

Just for that, it makes this comparison null and void.

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#18 pyro1245
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Well I think FF7R will be extremely nostalgic for me, but I'm a little worried the combat won't be any better than FFXV. Plus it's only going to be a small part of the full story which is kind of a bummer. Many classic songs won't even be in it! We won't even get to Cosmo Canyon! Ugh....

I'm really excited for Cyberpunk. I think it will be the better game in pretty much every way, except for maybe the music.

We will see.... Both are very highly anticipated.

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#19 blamix
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Both will be great but i think FF7R will be better

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#20 mazuiface
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I had major doubts about FF7 Remake and then I saw that gameplay trailer. It is definitely looking like a rich experience. It's too bad that that first part is only the first third of the original game!

I think comparing it to Cyberpunk is an apples to oranges comparison though

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#21 Valgaav_219
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I'm thinking it will be but I'm trying to go into this with an open mind. The trailers look great but I won't form an opinion until I play it myself. I'm hoping that all this hype isn't just nostalgia

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#22 djoffer
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Both looks great and both will be day one for me!

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#23  Edited By Fedor
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Tough to say since nostalgia will play a huge part with FF7. I'm sure both will be great in the end.

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#24 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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Way better, cyberpunk is pretty much deus ex.

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#25 Sancho_Panzer
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Which episode?

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#26 Planeforger
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Haven't we already had ten different threads about this?

Anyway, FF7R:1 will probably be a massive nostalgia hit for those who first played FF7 when they were kids.

It'll get a free pass on having a bad story and bad minigames, because the original also got a free pass there. People will also highly praise it despite it being a padded-out fraction of a full game, with no information or release schedule for FF7R:2-4.

Will it be a better game than Cyberpunk? No idea. Probably not, judging from how faulty the original FF7 was - but then again, people are going to worship FF7R:1 no matter what Square Enix actually serves them.

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#27 DaVillain  Moderator
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@fedor said:

Tough to say since nostalgia will play a huge part with FF7. I'm sure both will be great in the end.

Not for me though. I adore FF7 at the time when I was first introduce to Final Fantasy on PS1 during it's prime but as of looking back, I never want to return to FF7 and for a good reason. FF7 was great but being remade for the wrong reasons.

I'm more interested for Cyberpunk 2077 since it's new vs old school if I can say that of course.

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#28  Edited By BoxRekt
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It will be MUCH better than CP2077.

Gameplay, atmosphere, graphics, characters, music...did I mention gameplay?

The only area where CP2077 may beat FF7R is content. How "good" that actual content is however may not add up to much for arguments of it being a better game.

A lot of silly people mention that FF7R is episodic therefore it won't be a better game than CP2077? Lol what? Honestly, you have no F'in clue is CP2077 will have other sequels or not. That's one flaw in that stance already.

Secondly, FF7R is built to be a fully self contained game with over 50 hours of content. Whether that content is better than what's CP2077's or not has no connection on any future titles.

People love Uncharted 2 but say Uncharted 3 sucked...did the fact that there are more Uncharted games after part 2 make part 2 worse? No, that's idiot logic!

All that matters is the game that's going to be delivered March 2020 from Square is going to be one of the most impressive RPGs of this gen. I think it will be a far superior product than the over hyped yet underwhelming looking title CDPR will pan off on die hard witcher fans.

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#29  Edited By lundy86_4  Online
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@boxrekt said:

And lol at simpletons who mention that FF7R is episodic therefore it won't be a better game than CP2077? Lol what? Honestly you have no F'in clue is CP2077 will have other sequels or not.

Is episodic content equivalent to full-blown sequels? Added content does not complete a story... FF7 will still be missing the original conclusion.

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#30  Edited By BoxRekt
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@lundy86_4: FF7R is not being made the same way as the original, if you're not up to date with the game there is free info you could check out instead of making up inacurate narratives for yourself. It's being built as a fully self contained game.

Whatever your idea about the original game does not apply to this remake. Just say you're a CDPR fan and will prefer their game over FF7R instead of making silly inaccurate arguments. Again...you don't even know if CP2077 will have a sequel or not.

Furthermore your gripe or point didn't even address "quality" so either way your initial response was deflection of the original question asked.

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#31 lundy86_4  Online
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@boxrekt said:

@lundy86_4: FF7R is not being made the same way as the original, if you're not up to date with the game there is free info you could check out instead of making up inacurate narratives for yourself. It's being built as a fully self contained game.

Whatever your idea about the original game does not apply to this remake. Just say you're a CDPR fan and will prefer their game over FF7R instead of making silly inaccurate arguments. Again...you don't even know if CP2077 will have a sequel or not.

I'm up-to-date... Fully self-contained games missing the original ending, aren't a full game. It's episodic.

Huge CDPR fan...

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#32  Edited By BoxRekt
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@lundy86_4: It's a full game.

Just because you don't want to give it that credit is your own problem. The devs have told us how they've developed this game and it's not a remaster its a re-imagining of the FF7 world.

You can choose to be ignorant and spout nonsense that was already address but it doesn't change the fact that your concerns were already put to rest. FF7R is not a copy past of FF7 from 20 years ago so again, you trying to keep arguing as if FF7R is simply a piece of FF7's game is you choosing to spread misinformation.

Also you still didn't address the original question of this thread but it's cool, it's clear you're on deflection mode and aren't able to give straight answers at this time.

The most recent footage...

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of your beloved CP2077 lol. Watch Dogs 2.0 have fun with that.

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#33 lundy86_4  Online
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@boxrekt said:

@lundy86_4: It's a full game.

Just because you don't want to give it that credit is your own problem. The devs have told us how they've developed this game and it's not a remaster its a re-imagining of the FF7 world.

You can choose to be ignorant and spout nonsense that was already address but it doesn't change the fact that your concerns were already put to rest. FF7R is not a copy past of FF7 from 20 years ago so again, you trying to keep arguing as if FF7R is simply a piece of FF7's game is you choosing to spread misinformation.

Also you still didn't address the original question of this thread but it's cool, it's clear you're on deflection mode and aren't able to give straight answers at this time.

@lundy86_4 said:

It's incomplete, so no. As much as they may make it a somewhat standalone game, it's episodic and 2077 is not.

My initial post, third in the thread...

Splitting a game into parts does not make a full game. Had they done that with a new release, we would not know. This is a remake of an already released title, thus we know they are adding content, and yet not releasing the full game. As for Cyberpunk, you are posting unknowns, and continue to show your idiocy.

Dude, your argument is downright idiotic. You've shown twice you can't argue shit. First, with my picture response, and second with the fact that you didn't bother to read the thread.

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#34 Fedor
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@davillain-: You can certainly say that. The big challenge for FF7 is its episodic and they're adding a bunch of new stuff so you have to trust current SE not to F it up. If they can manage that then it should be great. That said I'm a big CDPR mark and I love Deus Ex, in the end I hope both are great.

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#35 hrt_rulz01
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@Pedro said:

So, we are supposed to compare two different unreleased game genres and decide which of the two is better? Seriously? This type of question that tends to originate from the one an only faction.

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#36  Edited By BoxRekt
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@lundy86_4 said:
@lundy86_4 said:

It's incomplete, so no. As much as they may make it a somewhat standalone game, it's episodic and 2077 is not.

My initial post, third in the thread...

Splitting a game into parts does not make a full game. Had they done that with a new release, we would not know. This is a remake of an already released title, thus we know they are adding content, and yet not releasing the full game. As for Cyberpunk, you are posting unknowns, and continue to show your idiocy.

Dude, your argument is downright idiotic. You've shown twice you can't argue shit. First, with my picture response, and second with the fact that you didn't bother to read the thread.

There is no "argument" nimrod, I stated a fact. You're talking out your ass like an emotional 3 year old.

Here for the people who might be mislead by your BS.

Final Fantasy VII Remake Series Compared To Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy

Each part will therefore be around 40-50 hours

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In an interview with Game Informer, Kitase offered some insight into how content will be spread across the various Final Fantasy VII Remake parts and used the Final Fantasy XIII trilogy as a comparison so that people had a direct point of reference.

"It will essentially be a full-scale game for each part of the multi-part series," Kitase stated. He then continued by saying "So if we’re just looking at each of these parts, one part should be on par with the scale of one Final Fantasy XIII game."

This should look to **dispel the consistent misconception that the game will be episodic**, which is by definition quite a different beast. Each iteration of the Final Fantasy VII Remake will be a fully fleshed out game

https://www.finalfantasyunion.com/news/3176/final-fantasy-vii-remake-series-compared-to-final-fantasy-xiii-trilogy/

"Each iteration of the Final Fantasy VII Remake will be a fully fleshed out game"

This is from the devs!

Where is your link? Oh you don't have one? Then STFU!

I know you're on this borad to be a desperate lying parasite but you don't make or create anything concerning this game so stop trying to act like an authority when all you're doing is spreading your horse shit.

Devs >>> a desperate clown on SW making up his own narrative.

like I said enjoy your CP2077 cry baby but your attempt to spread misinformation is pathetic. Kick rocks

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#37  Edited By lundy86_4  Online
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@boxrekt: The original is the full game. The remake roughly translates to a third... Thus, it's not the full game. Could you address the points I made prior?

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#39 xantufrog  Moderator
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Not for me, no. Very unlikely

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#40  Edited By BoxRekt
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@lundy86_4 said:

@boxrekt: The original is the full game. The remake roughly translates to a third...

https://www.finalfantasyunion.com/news/3176/final-fantasy-vii-remake-series-compared-to-final-fantasy-xiii-trilogy/

"Each iteration of the Final Fantasy VII Remake will be a fully fleshed out game"

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#42 Netret0120
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@boxrekt said:
@lundy86_4 said:

@boxrekt: The original is the full game. The remake roughly translates to a third...

https://www.finalfantasyunion.com/news/3176/final-fantasy-vii-remake-series-compared-to-final-fantasy-xiii-trilogy/

"Each iteration of the Final Fantasy VII Remake will be a fully fleshed out game"

It is impossible for people NOT to compare the orginal FF7 to this remake. The title really should be "FF7 Remake Part 1" in this case.

This means that the Midgar section of the game should last roughly 20-30 hours for the main story seeing as that's roughly the length of FF games recently.

This could go either way. It could make the story better (New Soldier from trailer. Get to know Avalanche members better etc) or it could be forced padding which just makes the game longer but doesn't really do much.

To answer the question, Cyberpunk 2077 will likely be a better game if it is anything like the witcher 3, you have a guaranteed 100-200 hours of content and this is without the inevitable DLC packages which could add an extra 50 hours on top.....for free.

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#43 SolidGame_basic  Online
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In my opinion: no!

For me I'm done with Square Enix in general so I personally choose to skip FF7 Remake and won't support them for next gen.

Why are you done with them?

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#45 appariti0n
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Well, Considering Cyberpunk will be a complete game at launch, it wins by default.

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#46 AJStyles
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I’m just happy I get to experience both and not forced to choose lol

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#47 foxhound_fox
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The remake is literally a retread of a 22 year-old game. Cyberpunk is a brand new property with what looks like to be genuinely new gameplay ideas.

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#48  Edited By lundy86_4  Online
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@boxrekt said:

https://www.finalfantasyunion.com/news/3176/final-fantasy-vii-remake-series-compared-to-final-fantasy-xiii-trilogy/

"Each iteration of the Final Fantasy VII Remake will be a fully fleshed out game"

I'm sorry man, but engaging this debate may have been the dumbest thing i've done.. Your reasoning is so f*cking idiotic, I don't know what to say lol.

Cyberpunk will be a fully released game... FF7R is a new episodic game with added parts, but still has to portray the original story, thus it's not a full game. I'm not sure what's so hard to understand... Though you couldn't be bothered to respond to a few of my points, which is par-for-the-course.

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#49 Speeny
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I'll probably end up just buying FF7 & not Cyberpunk, even though it looks good. I might just end up watching a friend play Cyberpunk and enjoy it that way.

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Not by a long shot. The first game of the FFVII R series will simply be a small segment of the original game. CP2077 will be a deep rpg with multiple styles of play and many different paths, along with a huge open world to explore vs FFVII R most likely being a very linear and cinematic experience.

They'll both be great plays though.