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#1  Edited By Mercenary848
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Ubisoft has a bad history of falsely marketing their games, rushed yearly realeases, and just ruining franchises. But they seem to not get nearly as much flak as the other big devs.

Konami, EA, and Capcom have gotten hella backlash from gamers with numerous articles, boycotts, and videos based on how crap they are. Ubisoft has somehow avoided this, although they are one of the worst. I have and honestly still do look forward to so many of their games and it always goes the same way. People still remember wen Watchdogs was first shown and how hyped everyone was, and then the game came out and it was nothing like it was shown to be. Watch dogs 2 looks good, but I honestly do not trust them. We all were excited when we saw Ghost Recon Wild lands last year, and now it looks like crap.

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#2  Edited By iandizion713
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Not really, they fit right in with them. I see them no different then other companies who want to rehash their content.

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#3 darkangel115
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Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

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@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

^ this

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@darkangel115: No truer words have been spoken. Cows will sooner eat trash mouth open than rebel against their Lord Master, Shu Yoshitia.

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#6 mjorh
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@GarGx1 said:
@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

^ this

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@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

This is pretty much true.

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@cinematicgalore: Sony Rehash where? They have tons of ip while microsoft rely on forza, gears, and halo almost exclusively.

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@GarGx1 said:
@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

^ this

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#10 IMAHAPYHIPPO
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@Mercenary848: The big difference, I feel, between Ubisoft and EA is that in order to get their games out on time, Ubisoft cuts quality, EA cuts content.

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@iandizion713 said:

Not really, they fit right in with them. I see them no different then other companies who want to rehash their content.

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#12 speedfreak48t5p
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That's odd, I see them getting trashed all the time.

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@darkangel115: Run!

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#14  Edited By chikenfriedrice
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No, they get too much hate actually......ASS games were great until they milked them to death, Watch Dogs was fun, Far Cry games are fun too!

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#15 JasonOfA36
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@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

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#16 foxhound_fox
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They get their share of criticism, but many gamers give them far too many chances. Especially even after something like Watch Dogs.

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#17 lamprey263
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They're the most picked on company after EA. Hell, I'd say they've had to eat more shit this gen that EA has.

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#18 zeeshanhaider
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@GarGx1 said:
@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

^ this

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#19 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@GarGx1 said:
@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

^ this

OMG the pathetic within these posts are substantial.

All the trash talking Sony gets on these forums alone proves you both to be pathetic haters.

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#20 DragonfireXZ95
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@lamprey263 said:

They're the most picked on company after EA. Hell, I'd say they've had to eat more shit this gen that EA has.

I think they are worse this gen than EA is. But, Battlefield is my bread and butter, so I may be kind of biased.

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#21 Randoggy
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If there is any dev team that gets a free pass it's Bethesda. Endless bugs but people don't seem to care or they say it's part of the "charm".

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#22 darkangel115
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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@GarGx1 said:
@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

^ this

OMG the pathetic within these posts are substantial.

All the trash talking Sony gets on these forums alone proves you both to be pathetic haters.

Sure the lemmings here do that, but overall Sony is hardly criticized. The main difference is on an overall Sony is hardly criticized and heavily defended by their fans, where as lemmings wont blindy defend MS

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#23  Edited By Liquid_
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@darkangel115 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@GarGx1 said:
@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

^ this

OMG the pathetic within these posts are substantial.

All the trash talking Sony gets on these forums alone proves you both to be pathetic haters.

Sure the lemmings here do that, but overall Sony is hardly criticized. The main difference is on an overall Sony is hardly criticized and heavily defended by their fans, where as lemmings wont blindy defend MS

Sony has no to little reason to be criticized, that's why they are hardly criticized. Weird how that works.

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#24 deactivated-5920bf77daa85
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Nope they get rightly criticized all the time.

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#25 RekonMeister
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LOL on PC they get slammed everywhere, even i do it... it's deserved.

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#26 thehig1
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Ubi soft are often trahsed by gamers and critics.

At least as much as EA/activision are

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#27 darkangel115
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@Liquid_ said:
@darkangel115 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@GarGx1 said:
@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

^ this

OMG the pathetic within these posts are substantial.

All the trash talking Sony gets on these forums alone proves you both to be pathetic haters.

Sure the lemmings here do that, but overall Sony is hardly criticized. The main difference is on an overall Sony is hardly criticized and heavily defended by their fans, where as lemmings wont blindy defend MS

Sony has no to little reason to be criticized, that's why they are hardly criticized. Weird how that works.

Oh really?

http://n4g.com/user/blogpost/m4ndat0ry_1nstall/516345

http://boingboing.net/2005/11/14/sony-anticustomer-te.html

http://techraptor.net/content/sony-proposes-settlement-ps3-otheros-lawsuit

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-21160818

http://www.wired.com/2013/02/sony-ps3-promises/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Days

Do you need more or should I stop?

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#28 jg4xchamp
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Nope, i think Triple A games in general got a lot of free passes for shitty design concepts.

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#29  Edited By Mercenary848
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@Randoggy: I am not disagreeing with you, but I think the theme of this thread is it is all due to perception. Judging from what others have said, I am the only one who misses the flak ubisoft get. While on the flip side, I have seen bethesda get ripped apart, one of my best friends had skyrim for 2 days before he traded it in disgust and swore off the company.

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#30 osan0
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@jg4xchamp: its the cost of development. they have to stick to what works.....risk taking is really not an option.

basically all of ubisofts games are based off of assasins creed. even the non creed games. its just a reskin and tweak job. i also have a bad feeling about ubisoft (i hope im wrong though).

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#31  Edited By Liquid_
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@darkangel115 said:
@Liquid_ said:
@darkangel115 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

OMG the pathetic within these posts are substantial.

All the trash talking Sony gets on these forums alone proves you both to be pathetic haters.

Sure the lemmings here do that, but overall Sony is hardly criticized. The main difference is on an overall Sony is hardly criticized and heavily defended by their fans, where as lemmings wont blindy defend MS

Sony has no to little reason to be criticized, that's why they are hardly criticized. Weird how that works.

Oh really?

http://n4g.com/user/blogpost/m4ndat0ry_1nstall/516345

http://boingboing.net/2005/11/14/sony-anticustomer-te.html

http://techraptor.net/content/sony-proposes-settlement-ps3-otheros-lawsuit

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-21160818

http://www.wired.com/2013/02/sony-ps3-promises/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Days

Do you need more or should I stop?

Glad to know you are stuck in 2009.

Do you have anything that doesn't pre-date 2013 and has to do with the topic (video game quality)?

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#32 uninspiredcup
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@jg4xchamp said:

Nope, i think Triple A games in general got a lot of free passes for shitty design concepts.

This appears to be correct.

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#33  Edited By DragonfireXZ95
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@Mercenary848 said:

@Randoggy: I am not disagreeing with you, but I think the theme of this thread is it is all due to perception. Judging from what others have said, I am the only one who misses the flak ubisoft get. While on the flip side, I have seen bethesda get ripped apart, one of my best friends had skyrim for 2 days before he traded it in disgust and swore off the company.

Well, if he got it on console, I can see why he did that. The vanilla game is incredibly mediocre. Even with mods, it's still not the greatest, but it is tolerable.

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#34 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@darkangel115 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@GarGx1 said:
@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

^ this

OMG the pathetic within these posts are substantial.

All the trash talking Sony gets on these forums alone proves you both to be pathetic haters.

Sure the lemmings here do that, but overall Sony is hardly criticized. The main difference is on an overall Sony is hardly criticized and heavily defended by their fans, where as lemmings wont blindy defend MS

Really?

Have you met Secret Police and Nyadc/dynomitecop?

Yeah.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@GarGx1 said:
@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

^ this

OMG the pathetic within these posts are substantial.

All the trash talking Sony gets on these forums alone proves you both to be pathetic haters.

Thanks for the perfect example of why Sony is perceived as getting a free pass.

Neither @darkangel115 or myself mentioned you, attacked a group or insulted any single individual and you come charging straight in on full defence mode with insults flying.

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#36 darkangel115
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@GarGx1 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@GarGx1 said:
@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

^ this

OMG the pathetic within these posts are substantial.

All the trash talking Sony gets on these forums alone proves you both to be pathetic haters.

Thanks for the perfect example of why Sony is perceived as getting a free pass.

Neither @darkangel115 or myself mentioned you, attacked a group or insulted any single individual and you come charging straight in on full defence mode with insults flying.

Yup, as a PS4, XB1, and PC gamer myself, I'm most disgusted with the Sony fanbase. It's like they'd rather not get improvements on their console, because they think criticism is speaking ill of sony and that's against their religion.

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#37  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@GarGx1 said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@GarGx1 said:
@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

^ this

OMG the pathetic within these posts are substantial.

All the trash talking Sony gets on these forums alone proves you both to be pathetic haters.

Thanks for the perfect example of why Sony is perceived as getting a free pass.

Neither @darkangel115 or myself mentioned you, attacked a group or insulted any single individual and you come charging straight in on full defence mode with insults flying.

Bc it's fucking ridiculous how some of you think ANY game company gets a free pass.

im not insulting you bc you bashed Sony - I'm insulting bc your point of view is ignorant and childish.

For any example you give for Sony I can give one for MS, Nintendo, Ubisoft, EA, etc.

Get off your "good example of fanbase" high horse.

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#38 CrashNBurn281
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Ubisoft gets a lot of criticism. Not sure where you have been this gen. Watchdogs was ripped up and down.

Everyone gets criticism. Microsoft probably gets the most, deserved a lot of it for the start of the gen. Sony probably gets the least, but they haven't pulled the crap Microsoft did.

The newer complaints about Microsoft after the changes are kind of odd. They have made some very good changes since the management changed. People complained about the Kinect, it's pretty much gone. People complained about the always online, was removed. People complained about them not giving enough support to pc, they are bringing their first party titles to the platform. Seems like they took a lot of feedback and made changes based on it. They still need more diversity in their ip, pushing the same Forza, Halo, and Gears will only get you so far.

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@mr_huggles_dog: Come on man, you've been here for a while. You've seen many years' worth of Sony's bullshit E3 conferences, their non-announcements, their vapourware, and their long gaming droughts.

You can't honestly believe that Sony doesn't get a free pass most of the time. Certainly more so than Ubisoft, Microsoft or Nintendo, who constantly get given shit for all of their announcements.

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#40 svaubel
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@Planeforger said:

@mr_huggles_dog: Come on man, you've been here for a while. You've seen many years' worth of Sony's bullshit E3 conferences, their non-announcements, their vapourware, and their long gaming droughts.

You can't honestly believe that Sony doesn't get a free pass most of the time. Certainly more so than Ubisoft, Microsoft or Nintendo, who constantly get given shit for all of their announcements.

Sony has definitely got more of a free pass than everyone else this gen. Nintendo has actually supported their system when no one else would. MS has worked really hard turning their image around after that disastrous launch. What has Sony done? Point at MS and say "We wont pull that shit" and confetti explodes from the ceiling. So Sony is 'winning' more or less because they have fucked up the least this gen, granted. But at the same time, its not like they have taken any real effort, other than ride on the coattails of their competitors mistakes.

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#41  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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AAA games get passes on bullshit in general. I mean, just look at last years darling, TW3 lmao.

All kinds of games and companies get excused for all kinds of shit, it's just that gamers have a set up a good guys vs. bad guys narrative when it comes to certain franchises and companies. Critical thinking and rationality get lost along the way.

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#42 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@svaubel said:
@Planeforger said:

@mr_huggles_dog: Come on man, you've been here for a while. You've seen many years' worth of Sony's bullshit E3 conferences, their non-announcements, their vapourware, and their long gaming droughts.

You can't honestly believe that Sony doesn't get a free pass most of the time. Certainly more so than Ubisoft, Microsoft or Nintendo, who constantly get given shit for all of their announcements.

Sony has definitely got more of a free pass than everyone else this gen. Nintendo has actually supported their system when no one else would. MS has worked really hard turning their image around after that disastrous launch. What has Sony done? Point at MS and say "We wont pull that shit" and confetti explodes from the ceiling. So Sony is 'winning' more or less because they have fucked up the least this gen, granted. But at the same time, its not like they have taken any real effort, other than ride on the coattails of their competitors mistakes.

Ugh.....between Nintendo, MS and Sony which one is venturing into unknown territory with VR?

Who has had more games?

Who has had those high ranking games?

And thats exactly right....they haven't fucked up as much as the others this generation....now think about your statement and then ask yourself again "does Sony still get more of a free pass?" If they do....OF COURSE THEY DO....bc they are fucking up LESS.

Thats how this shit works.

And I've been around for a while....ppl gave them shit for the $600 PS3....for having no games until the latter part of the console's cycle....for showing us footage of Killzone 2 which was TOTAL bullshit.....for using the Cell processor and making programming for the PS3 a headache.

They learned from that. You know what that means.....naturally they're going to **** up less....which in turn gives them some credit.

This shit is common sense.

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#43 m64
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Not sure how Ubisoft gets a pass ! I fail to see that

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#44  Edited By zeeshanhaider
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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@GarGx1 said:
@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Sony

^ this

OMG the pathetic within these posts are substantial.

All the trash talking Sony gets on these forums alone proves you both to be pathetic haters.

The difference is when Ubisoft does something stupid they get trashed from everyone, no one defends their stupid moves. In the case of Sony they downgrade graphics and cows still defend them with stupid excuses like 'animation increases/decreases poly count'.

@mr_huggles_dog said:
And I've been around for a while....ppl gave them shit for the $600 PS3....for having no games until the latter part of the console's cycle....for showing us footage of Killzone 2 which was TOTAL bullshit.....for using the Cell processor and making programming for the PS3 a headache.

That's a total lie. Cows to this day defend teh cell and teh PS3, want proof there's still thread on SW by cows praising the mythical powah of teh cell, and cows still goes around defending KZ2 by saying that the final game surpassed the pre-rendered footage.

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#45 nethernova
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If anything they get more hate than they deserve. Their games are usually still somewhat enjoyable.

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#46  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
Member since 2014 • 7805 Posts

@zeeshanhaider: is your defense really that theres 1 thread by a fanboy who is defending his or her system of choice?

That's every fucking platform's fanboys!!!!

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#47 DarkLink77
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@darkangel115 said:

Ubisoft gets trashed all the time. not sure if you live under a rock or something. The only one that gets a pass all the time is Bethesda.

Fixed that for you.

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#48 darklight4
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While I do like some of Ubi's games they get trashed a lot especially after AC Unity. There open world games are getting kind of boring, do I have to climb a tower in every game.

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#49 with_teeth26
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from what I've seen Ubi take more shit than any other publisher these days

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#50 cainetao11
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Not really. I read plenty from gamers against Ubisoft. But I read gamers complaints about everything so that doesn't carry any validity anyway