Digital Foundry: PS4 Pro hands on impressions

I won't editorialize it. Here you go SW. Time for the battle thread of threads!

Nope

Damn it! You beat me by minutes!

I'm liking the idea of devs giving gamers graphical modes to choose from like what Crystal Dynamics is doing with Tomb Raider.

Yes, and now there is a slit in the touchpad where you can see it even better.

I was actually in before lems started talking about things other than games. Seems like you have to start a topic for that to happen these days. Lol

Yeah, the different modes do interest me. I am slowly warming to this thing but its still not a day 1 buy for me.

I don't know why anyone expected different. The issue with the pro is, since most people use TVs for their console, is the options on TV are 1080p or 4k. nothing in between. the pro will be great for 1080p, but doesn't do 4k. On PC lots of PC gamers use 1440p monitors where the pro would fit perfect. They should have given it more power, 4k is finally starting to become widely adapted as decent 4k TVs can be found for around 500 bucks and even a good one for around 1000. They aren't 5k+ anymore in price. My first 4k TV was 3k back in 2014. My new one i got a few months ago was only 1000. Both good samsung TVs. The pro won't take advanatge of it. I could see soony starting a new gen in 3 years with a PS5 now, as the neo is in a weird spot. the scorpio is the clear 4k console, the S is the best budget console, and the PS4S and Pro are in a weird middle spot. At the start of the gen, PS4 was the best budget and 1080p console. Now it's got neither

Sounds good

It's actually cheaper to manufacture a flatscreen TV than it was to manufacture CRTs. So, you're pretty correct, but they still fetch a premium price in the end due to marketing. I was impressed by Sony saying that color formats are still in flux currently for 4K screens. Half the problem with adoption is that people got used to how powerful the 1080p TVs got and the specifications for 4K TVs (outside of the obvious resolution difference) is less than compelling.

A true 120Hz 4k TV is stupid expensive right now. Compared to a comparable gaming oriented 1080p tv, the cost is enormous. They will need to catch up in order to catch on. It looks like they are taking the tech in that direction, but it has not been an elegant process.

@Shewgenja: Quit making threads.

Now you're salty that DF likes the thing?

lol why?

LOL wut? Did we watch two different videos? Rich enjoyed the console show.

I think the devs who are allowing the user to choose settings are being smart here

It sounds like the actual product is pretty good - tangible visual upgrade - it is a shame that we can't really see and appreciate the whizbangs here on our end until we can see in person

@Shewgenja: Aww, dangit. Beat me to it.

I agree, it's all about that up close and personal experience as youtube streaming and whatnot isn't impressive.

Pro console for the finicky professional gamer. Like it. Must have.

Read the article this morning. Good stuff.

TL;DW:

• PS4P is worth it, and pushes above its weight
• Sony didn't do a good job of showing it off, it's hard to
• 4K sets with HDR are a must to take best advantage
• 4K player being absent is a con
• You need to see it in person to appreciate
• Good value

Take it as you will.

http://4k.com/news/4k-tv-sales-to-surpass-100-million-units-by-2018-5948/

4k will be the standard before another console comes out.

Well, it wasnt a Likes/Dislikes kind of video.

They were discussing the capabilities and upgrades over PS4

They were excited about the possibilites, I dont think there was any chance of them bashing the thing.

Its not what they do.

Their meeting sucked so bad, so it seems that I'll have to see it in person to actually give it a try and take that sour taste I have off from what I've seen. And hopefully they do PSVR demos with Pro so I can make up my mind.

@darkangel115: My first 4k TV was 3k back in 2014. My new one i got a few months ago was only 1000.

I got my first this year. Vizio for $800 and since I have my X1S I have seen a difference in the 4k shows it streams but like I always said Its not so huge to me. But I'll still play the game on SW and rag on cows and the PS4Poo

Not an issue here. I use an Elite and I can adjust the light to my liking. Even the reg X1 controller didn't bother me. I like a dark room but I don't game in the artic winter.

Yeah that's a cool thing. PC elite will say "been on PC foreva" but its still nice to see for consoles.

Outstanding unbiased remarks about the first professional console of the gen, the PS4 Pro.

Does it have 4K blu ray player ? nope

Can you turn off the battery sucking light on the controller ? nope

Does it have external storage support for games ? nope

I´ll pass.

I wouldn't even say its a matter of not yet ready. My brother has seen what the 4k Netflix looks like on my TV now and he admits it is crisper and more defined. But he also says, so what? I think many people are just content with 1080p. It is a clear, good picture. Hell I'll play on 480p with my neighbor on the Wii. It looks great but in reality (not SW) it's not important.

If you got a good 4k tv, I can't imagine streaming content. I mean, not shit i care about. Movies and good shows, I gotta have the disc...

Yeah and that's what I figured. Might wait until there's a demo station at best buy.

Horseshit Sony. Why the hell make a 4k focused device and not be able to play the only 4k media that matters?

If you know Digital Foundry then you already know they want to have Sony's baby and utterly despise the Xbox One. Can you guess what they'll say about the PS4 Pro?

Yeh the 4K netflix does look better than the HD one for sure, but it's not worlds apart and I'm not sure I'd even bother paying for the 4k sub over normal one, my account just seems to be stuck on the 4k sub at standard price since I got to try the 4K with no charge for a month, not one to complain. That being said you do require a proper internet connection for 4K streaming, the netflix 4k is surprisingly high bitrate stuff so 30mbit+ dl is must.

@Chutebox: Fair enough dude. i have a bunch of blu rays and even HD DVDswhen it was discontinued so ppl were selling good flix for like $.50

But like my stance on wanting BC, I want space in my home. I want to build a game room and of course dedicate space, but if I can stream Justified or GoT then **** physical media.

Honestly' I'm shocked that these devices wil be doing 1800p.

But then I remember this means that the fidelity/graphics settings of the games will barely be higher... and probably 30FPS... again...

Would of rathered them forget about 4k for now, and get their damn games sufficient at 1080p/60fps/better graphics.

this was not a good choice... other than for Sony pushing TVs... f*cking stupid.

@howmakewood: Yep. I have until September 23 on my free month of 4K. Its only like $3more/month so I'll do it because unless Sony starts putting out a must play online game like Halo 5 or Gears, I'll be dropping PS+

@Shewgenja:

Does it run on native 4k resolution?

awwww, no Alienation with me and @getyeryayasout....

Excellent Post! @charizard1605 must be smiling somewhere.

Nah, 4K/UHD TV's are pretty much the norm now - at least for anyone buying new TV's. It will be a long time before the "total market penetration" hits 50% - but at the same time, it probably won't be that long before you can't even find 1080p TV's in stores or online anymore.

UHD disc also hasn't been out that long, but I've seen them on display at all the usual suspects in the States. Best Buy even has a special rack for them - but as they just came out there's only about 30-50 different movies at Best Buy (and the total overall catalog is probably just about getting past 100).

It might be a few years before we start seeing 4K cable channels though, but you can already stream 4K content on Netflix and other outfits.

Good hardware but too bad it's not a true real 4K UHD machine. If 4K streaming and digital impresses people, imagine viewing content from a real 4K machine with UHD drive like the Xbox One S. I guess PlayStation could just fake it till they make it.

The GPU is based on Polaris. Polaris GPU's are better than the R9 200 series GPUs. It's more comparable to the RX470-80.

I still love the price....can't really grumble at that... $100 for the double the GPU power...... Show me a single PC GPU that offers that upgrade for so little.

And you have no chance of building a PC with that spec for the same money either.

470 would be more accurate

@2Chalupas: Maybe a third of new tv purchases are 4k.

LOL Sep 23 is the end of my free UHD Netflix trial. I'm good on PS+ until like May 2017 brohamacles. But unless the network or games improve, I wont care for PS+ anymore after.