Digital Foundry: Mass Effect Andromeda PS4 Pro vs PC 4K

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#1  Edited By loe12k
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PS4 Pro renders at 1800p via checker boarding, the image is then upscaled to 2160p for final output.

PS4 pro Frame Rate drops to 25fps ingame.

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#2  Edited By SecretPolice
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Bore Poo strikes again. lol :P

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#3  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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This discussion was already done like almost 2 weeks ago and I think QuadKnight made this similar thread as well.

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#4 loe12k
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@davillain- said:

This discussion was already done like almost 2 weeks ago and I think QuadKnight made this similar thread as well.

This video was only posted Yesterday?

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#5 DaVillain  Moderator
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Ether way, I'm playing Andromeda on my PC and well, you guys know the rest, PC vs Console.

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#6 Shewgenja
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ITT:

Lems hiding behind PC when it is convenient.

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#7 thedork_knight
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@Shewgenja said:

ITT:

Lems hiding behind PC when it is convenient.

Like cows hiding behind PC when its convenient, same shit different day

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#8 Shewgenja
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@thedork_knight said:
@Shewgenja said:

ITT:

Lems hiding behind PC when it is convenient.

Like cows hiding behind PC when its convenient, same shit different day

It's good you can admit to it. You're alright in my book.

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#9 Dakur
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@Shewgenja said:

ITT:

Lems hiding behind PC when it is convenient.

Lol lems ignore talking about the xbone completely to avoid embarrassment and ownage now.

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#10  Edited By Shewgenja
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@dakur said:
@Shewgenja said:

ITT:

Lems hiding behind PC when it is convenient.

Lol lems ignore talking about the xbone completely to avoid embarrassment and ownage now.

Bu bu bu bu PC is a Microsoft platform dawg. . .

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#11  Edited By Zero_epyon
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Meh...We kind of already knew it was going to perform that way since the early stage demos. This game needs work. It's giving my 970 a beating.

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#12 lundy86_4
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I'm hitting between 30 and 60 on my 970 on High settings, and it's really annoying. SO much so, that i'm grabbing a 1070 today. Couldn't imagine playing consistently at that with this game.

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@SecretPolice said:

Bore Poo strikes again. lol :P

You have tourette posting syndrome.

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@dakur said:
@Shewgenja said:

ITT:

Lems hiding behind PC when it is convenient.

Lol lems ignore talking about the xbone completely to avoid embarrassment and ownage now.

Dakur you hide behind everything as you dont own either a console or a PC

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#15 Flyincloud1116
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@dakur said:
@Shewgenja said:

ITT:

Lems hiding behind PC when it is convenient.

Lol lems ignore talking about the xbone completely to avoid embarrassment and ownage now.

Sounds like kvally.

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#16 Quicksilver128
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They can't even match animation quality from 10 years ago. Did you think they were going to get it to run well on the Pro?

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@flyincloud1116 said:
@SecretPolice said:

Bore Poo strikes again. lol :P

You have tourette posting syndrome.

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@lundy86_4 said:

I'm hitting between 30 and 60 on my 970 on High settings, and it's really annoying. SO much so, that i'm grabbing a 1070 today. Couldn't imagine playing consistently at that with this game.

Damn you too? I was wondering if it'll be worth it. It seems like I'd get it just for this game.

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#19 skektek
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@Shewgenja said:

ITT:

Lems hiding behind PC when it is convenient.

What else are they supposed to do? They don't have any games to play.

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#20 Juub1990
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lol @commander Looks like my 3500$ PC will be useful after all. I won't have to play the game at a checkerboard 1800p with dips in the mid 20's.

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#21 skektek
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@flyincloud1116 said:
@SecretPolice said:

Bore Poo strikes again. lol :P

You have tourette posting syndrome.

Its best not to feed the trolls.

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#22  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@lundy86_4 said:

I'm hitting between 30 and 60 on my 970 on High settings, and it's really annoying. SO much so, that i'm grabbing a 1070 today. Couldn't imagine playing consistently at that with this game.

Really? My 1070 seems to be running it somewhat fine and have everything maxed at 60fps. granted it dips to 55 occasionally but then again, I have 16GB Ram and this game uses more Ram. Also, my main grip with Andromeda setting is that there's no way to turn off Motion Blur and I don't know why Bioware left that feature out.

Try disable your Resolution Scaling Mode. It's causing a huge problem with stable fps.

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#23  Edited By Pedro
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Thats terrible. Paying $400 for quasi 4k. What a rip. PC gaming offers the same performance for less........

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@lundy86_4 said:

I'm hitting between 30 and 60 on my 970 on High settings, and it's really annoying. SO much so, that i'm grabbing a 1070 today. Couldn't imagine playing consistently at that with this game.

What settings does a RX 480 get?

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#25 SecretPolice
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@skektek said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@SecretPolice said:

Bore Poo strikes again. lol :P

You have tourette posting syndrome.

Its best not to feed the trolls.

You better think about that, I mean, you cows would starve. lol :P

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#26  Edited By Juub1990
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@Random_Matt said:

What settings does a RX 480 get?

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@Juub1990: High settings then, cool.

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@Shewgenja said:

ITT:

Lems hiding behind PC when it is convenient.

Just like cows only posted DF topics when PS4 came out on top...

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lol and Ronvelencia told me it would be better on PS PRO.

LMAO.

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@FastRobby said:
@Shewgenja said:

ITT:

Lems hiding behind PC when it is convenient.

Just like cows only posted DF topics when PS4 came out on top...

LOL have to love the hypocritical cows. All day they hide behind PC claiming X1 has no exclusives but all of a sudden it's bad to compare the Pro with PC performance. Does anyone take cowgenja seriously?

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#31  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@zaryia: Ron told you it would be better on Pro than PC? That doesn't sound right...

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#32 Dakur
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@FastRobby said:
@Shewgenja said:

ITT:

Lems hiding behind PC when it is convenient.

Just like cows only posted DF topics when PS4 came out on top...

That doesn't make sense. How are cows hiding behind PC when they posted DF topics where PS$ came on top? I think you're confused.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@lundy86_4 said:

I'm hitting between 30 and 60 on my 970 on High settings, and it's really annoying. SO much so, that i'm grabbing a 1070 today. Couldn't imagine playing consistently at that with this game.

Damn you too? I was wondering if it'll be worth it. It seems like I'd get it just for this game.

Playing with a GTX 1060 6 GB, and getting mostly between 55-70 fps on High, with the odd dip to low 40's here and there. Likely it's my FX 8350 that's the bottleneck. I even tried switching my texture setting between High and Ultra and seeing little difference in average performance, so I'll bump that setting back up and keep the rest on High.

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#34 Zero_epyon
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@AdobeArtist said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@lundy86_4 said:

I'm hitting between 30 and 60 on my 970 on High settings, and it's really annoying. SO much so, that i'm grabbing a 1070 today. Couldn't imagine playing consistently at that with this game.

Damn you too? I was wondering if it'll be worth it. It seems like I'd get it just for this game.

Playing with a GTX 1060 6 GB, and getting mostly between 55-70 fps on High, with the odd dip to low 40's here and there. Likely it's my FX 8350 that's the bottleneck. I even tried switching my texture setting between High and Ultra and seeing little difference in average performance, so I'll bump that setting back up and keep the rest on High.

I have an i7 7700K. You think i'd be able to get away with a 1060?

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#35 Zero_epyon
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@FastRobby said:
@Shewgenja said:

ITT:

Lems hiding behind PC when it is convenient.

Just like cows only posted DF topics when PS4 came out on top...

I don't know about other posters here but I stopped because all they were doing for a time was comparing PS4 to PS4 Pro. That's boring. I'll be posting them again when scorpio comes out.

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@AdobeArtist said:

Playing with a GTX 1060 6 GB, and getting mostly between 55-70 fps on High, with the odd dip to low 40's here and there. Likely it's my FX 8350 that's the bottleneck. I even tried switching my texture setting between High and Ultra and seeing little difference in average performance, so I'll bump that setting back up and keep the rest on High.

Why would changing the textures from High to Ultra change anything unless you have a VRAM bottleneck? Changing the textures setting usually barely affects the performance.

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#37 kvally
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Dat 25fpsStation Pro yo

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#38  Edited By kvally
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@flyincloud1116: I love you and your taint.

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I have it on the OG ps4 and its the worst running game i've played on the PS4.

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#40  Edited By Heil68
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@Shewgenja said:

ITT:

Lems hiding behind PC when it is convenient.

PS4, current gen 8 leader, wins again.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@AdobeArtist said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@lundy86_4 said:

I'm hitting between 30 and 60 on my 970 on High settings, and it's really annoying. SO much so, that i'm grabbing a 1070 today. Couldn't imagine playing consistently at that with this game.

Damn you too? I was wondering if it'll be worth it. It seems like I'd get it just for this game.

Playing with a GTX 1060 6 GB, and getting mostly between 55-70 fps on High, with the odd dip to low 40's here and there. Likely it's my FX 8350 that's the bottleneck. I even tried switching my texture setting between High and Ultra and seeing little difference in average performance, so I'll bump that setting back up and keep the rest on High.

I have an i7 7700K. You think i'd be able to get away with a 1060?

I should have mentioned my resolution is 2560x1080, just a nominal res bump from conventional 1080p, which would also factor in my frame rate. But generally speaking 1060 is prime for 1080p gaming.

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#42  Edited By musicalmac  Moderator
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PS4 Pro seemed like an inherently flawed product before, and it seems mores like it now. Like using a push mower to care for a golf course.

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#43 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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@Juub1990 said:
@AdobeArtist said:

Playing with a GTX 1060 6 GB, and getting mostly between 55-70 fps on High, with the odd dip to low 40's here and there. Likely it's my FX 8350 that's the bottleneck. I even tried switching my texture setting between High and Ultra and seeing little difference in average performance, so I'll bump that setting back up and keep the rest on High.

Why would changing the textures from High to Ultra change anything unless you have a VRAM bottleneck? Changing the textures setting usually barely affects the performance.

I guess I always thought texture was the most resource intensive setting right after resolution. But as I'm sure my 6 GB VRAM is more than sufficient at my 2560x1080 res... well it's good to have a better idea of the correlation between what settings affect performance in what way.

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#44  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@AdobeArtist said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@AdobeArtist said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@lundy86_4 said:

I'm hitting between 30 and 60 on my 970 on High settings, and it's really annoying. SO much so, that i'm grabbing a 1070 today. Couldn't imagine playing consistently at that with this game.

Damn you too? I was wondering if it'll be worth it. It seems like I'd get it just for this game.

Playing with a GTX 1060 6 GB, and getting mostly between 55-70 fps on High, with the odd dip to low 40's here and there. Likely it's my FX 8350 that's the bottleneck. I even tried switching my texture setting between High and Ultra and seeing little difference in average performance, so I'll bump that setting back up and keep the rest on High.

I have an i7 7700K. You think i'd be able to get away with a 1060?

I should have mentioned my resolution is 2560x1080, just a nominal res bump from conventional 1080p, which would also factor in my frame rate. But generally speaking 1060 is prime for 1080p gaming.

Ah. I'm at 1440. I've been reading that you need a 1070 for anything above 1080p. I guess I'll go that route.

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#45 Zero_epyon
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@musicalmac said:

PS4 Pro seemed like an inherently flawed product before, and it seems mores like it now. Like using a push mower to care for a golf course.

Based on what I'm seeing on PC, I don't think it's all the PS4 this time. I see this game getting some performance patches later down the road. At least I hope.

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#46 ShepardCommandr
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PS4 pro is running at a nice cinematic fps so it's the version to play

they should lock it at 24fps for maximum cinematic-ness

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#47 Juub1990
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@AdobeArtist said:

I guess I always thought texture was the most resource intensive setting right after resolution. But as I'm sure my 6 GB VRAM is more than sufficient at my 2560x1080 res... well it's good to have a better idea of the correlation between what settings affect performance in what way.

Understandable. Back then cards had much less VRAM and people tended to max out textures only to see their fps tank in the single digits. Then they found out it was simply because they ran out of VRAM.

Usually things that kill performance are resolution, anti-aliasing, shadow quality and ambient occlusion. Some other more exotic things like Hairworks and PhysX also slaughter performance. At times you simply drop them down a notch and your fps improves by like 30%.

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#48 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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@Juub1990 said:
@AdobeArtist said:

I guess I always thought texture was the most resource intensive setting right after resolution. But as I'm sure my 6 GB VRAM is more than sufficient at my 2560x1080 res... well it's good to have a better idea of the correlation between what settings affect performance in what way.

Understandable. Back then cards had much less VRAM and people tended to max out textures only to see their fps tank in the single digits. Then they found out it was simply because they ran out of VRAM.

Usually things that kill performance are resolution, anti-aliasing, shadow quality and ambient occlusion. Some other more exotic things like Hairworks and PhysX also slaughter performance. At times you simply drop them down a notch and your fps improves by like 30%.

Yeah I'll generally drop shadows before anything else as it has the least visual impact to the performance hits. And I forgot to factor in the AA. Thing about MEA is it doesn't even have scaled settings to that (2x, 4x, 8x, etc...), just on or off, with either FXAA or Temporal. And as I generally avoid using FXAA, I'm playing with the temporal, not even being sure what it's performance to quality factor is.... but when FX is the only other alternative.

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#49  Edited By Juub1990
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@AdobeArtist said:

Yeah I'll generally drop shadows before anything else as it has the least visual impact to the performance hits. And I forgot to factor in the AA. Thing about MEA is it doesn't even have scaled settings to that (2x, 4x, 8x, etc...), just on or off, with either FXAA or Temporal. And as I generally avoid using FXAA, I'm playing with the temporal, not even being sure what it's performance to quality factor is.... but when FX is the only other alternative.

I can get the game for 25$ but I'm really hesitating between that and Nier Automata. I haven't bought Nier yet because the art style and concept kinda puts me off but the gameplay looks pretty damn good. It also isn't that long apparently.

I would have bought ME in a heartbeat but the reports of it being Dragon Age Inquisition in space worry me.

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#50 scatteh316
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They seemed over all impressed with the quality and comment that on occasion it can pass for native 4k.

No PS4Pro fail in here.....