[QUOTE="razgriz_101"][QUOTE="Nuck81"] Use your brain, it's pretty easy. Different standards at the time of the games release. The GT5 model would wipe the floor with the Rfactor model from five years ago. At the time when Forza 3 was released it was a 13 compared to the best sims available then. As Physics models improve so do the standards that they are judged from. Forza 4 came out a year after GT5, was directly compared to it in the review, and it was explicitly stated that GT5 was better.Nuck81
want to know where your flaw is in that arguement?
you go on bout standards changing over time, then lord over GT5 a game which was released a year before whch by your logic is held to a different level of standard as its essentially a differnt time period.....the long and short is your arguement is flawed by your very own reasoning with your opening arguement it would mean that FM4 is held to a different standard than that of GT5 as you know standards change eh.
One of the most flawed arguements i've seen and still relying on ISR, despite the fact we use the SW metagame which uses GS scores and going by pure logical and reasonable arguement thats flawless under SW metagame rules Forza's still the superior.
bye and thanks for playing
/inb4 lem,forza fanboy,butthurt all other cow nonsense.
im just saying whats true for this board at the end of the day.
:lol: you're terrible. GT5 an Forza 4 were directly compared in the ISR review. They are held to the same standard, since they were compared directly by the reviewers. And in that direct comparison they said GT5 was better. Forza is the more casual, more accessible game. That's why it has built in assists you can't turn off and arcade like handling. That's why casual sites like Gamespot and casual gamers like yourself prefer Forza. You only play the games for a few weeks, with a gamepad, and then let them collect dust until Turn 10 releases a new game for $60. Real sim racing fans, people that have an actual sim racing set up, and actually play sim racing games prefer GT5. Reality>Casual game reviewers.You keep saying this despite the fact that you have yet to provide even a shred of proof of that.
Why?
Because Forza 4 does not have built in assists that you can't turn off. Forza 3 did. Forza 4 doesn't. Plain and simple.
The fact of the matter is Forza 4 does not have "arcade like" handling. It has realistic handling, just like GT5 and simulates driving better than GT5.
Here's a comparison from DigitalTrends
On Gran Turismo 5
"We also tested a Camaro SS in the game and looked back (with warm memories) at our previous review. The Camaro in GT5 felt like it lacked some zip in the lower gears that we remember from our real-world test. Theres also one missing ingredient in the game, something thats almost impossible to replicate: the Camaro felt too light on the road, as though it was a sportscar and not a muscle car."
On Forza 4
"Thats why, in driving the CTS-V, the Mercedes-Benz SLS, the VW Golf GTI, and even the Lexus CT200h in the real world (and reviewing them all) and in the game, we found that Forza 4 nailed the realism."
Conclusion
"And, while you can flip the car in both games, neither game bothered with the feature where the door pistons blow off so you can exit the vehicle. Yet, in the end, the Spec 2.0 version of Gran Turismo 5 felt a little stale in the end. We booted up both cars in the games on the same HD screen, with the same surround-sound system, and Forza 4 seemed to nail one aspect that was missing from GT5: the fun factor. This is more of an authenticity issue than you might think. The SLS in Forza just felt like it was faster, hungrier, and more fun to drive. Both games mimicked the car accurately. If we had to pick one game that delivered the thrill of driving the real $200,000 supercar, it would be Forza 4."
And I can already hear you crying "bu bu...ISR!!! :cry:"
These guys compared cars they reviewed in real life to their in game counterparts. A claim the folks at ISR can't make.
But yeah, you keep going with your nonsensical BS about Forza 4 being arcadey and desperately clinging to your precious ISR review. In the real world, Forza 4 is about as real as it gets on a console.
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