DF Deveil May Cry 5 Analysis. X "True 4K Ultra HD", Pro "Game outputs $4K, 4k tv required"

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#1 ellos
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Quick summary

Resolution

X Reconstructed 4k, Pro Reconstructed 1800p

Ps4 Native 1080p, Xboxone S Reconstructed 1080p

Perfomance

Pro X comparable on gameplay. Bigger gap for Pro on cutscenes (Its what Sony consoles do best lol).

Base consoles PS4 is the King better then the upgrades when it comes to gameplay 60fps. It has a moment of massive drop on a particular area due to depth of field effect.

S never really hit the 60 mark simply the worst. Time to upgrade people.

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#2 Zero_epyon
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Awesome title lol

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#3 tdkmillsy
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Looks good, will look good at 4k on my 4k tv :) running on the X :)

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#4  Edited By Blackhairedhero
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RE2 and this don't seem to have much of a gap on the Pro and X1X. But overall visually the games look amazing. Capcom lets everybody win!

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#5 BassMan
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So....the video is basically saying get the PC version as always. :)

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#6 lundy86_4
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Can't wait. This will probably be my first game tried in 4K, but it's gonna make my 1070 cry. Upgrading GPU in a month or two.

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#7  Edited By ellos
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@BassMan said:

So....the video is basically saying get the PC version as always. :)

Nah jokes aside its very well made for at least the 3 console versions. Normally games like these have to look like shit to just attempt 60fps.

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#8 Bread_or_Decide
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First of all, this game looks spectacular.

Second of all, does this mean its better on xbox one x?

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#9 True_Link
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RE engine is an engine done right. Every developer out there should take notes.

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#10 Blackhairedhero
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@Bread_or_Decide: he recommended pro, X and base PS4 equally. X has a mild res advantage, pro has mild performance advantage. Overall side by side differences were hard to notice. The One S is the only one that really seemed to get trounced.

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#11 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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So not native?

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#12 tormentos
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Nice.

Sad part is most xbox fans will play the very worse version.

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#13 kingtito
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@tormentos said:

Nice.

Sad part is most xbox fans will play the very worse version.

You know what really sucks? You won't be playing it at all. Have to own a gaming PC or current gen console.

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#14 sakaiXx
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Nice. Can't wait for my copy to arrive!

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#15  Edited By deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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“During cut-scenes, neither Pro or X hold 60 FPS but Pro turns between 5 to 20% faster performance.”

WTF?!?!

This sacrificing performance for pixels needs to stop. Why wouldn’t the X run a native 1800p locked at 60? It’s clearly not a CPU thing because the X chip is clocked higher than the Pro’s.

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#16 tormentos
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@kingtito:

Actually I don't like DMC anymore but if I did I would get the most stable version not because I want it but because the ps4 version is the most stable oh an I am talking about the base ps4 not the pro.

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#17 BenjaminBanklin
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@Random_Matt said:

So not native?

Nope. And Xbox has the marketing deal too. Guess Capcom told them to kiss their butts on trying to force 4K at the expense of game performance.

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#18  Edited By tormentos
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@goldenelementxl:

Pushing 4k at any cost is the problem it happen with some ps4 games as well long ago,alto the ps4 version has higher res than the xbox one s and kick the living crap out of it frame wise as well.

You know what is funny that the base ps4 is the only native version,incredible to believe the ps4 is a better 1080p machine than the xbox one x is a 4k one.

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#19  Edited By deactivated-60113e7859d7d
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@ellos said:
@BassMan said:

So....the video is basically saying get the PC version as always. :)

Nah jokes aside its very well made for at least the 3 console versions. Normally games like these have to look like shit to just attempt 60fps.

Can't disable the shitty chromatic abberation, grain (I'm assuming it has grain, because all their games do.), lens effects and other ugly filters on consoles, though.

I didn't watch the video. Don't want to spoil myself with only three and a half hours to go. I never do this, but I'm gonna drag my PC to the living room for this first session. Already paired my DS4 with a Bluetooth dongle a few days ago.

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#20 foxhound_fox
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I loved DmC but this is absolutely a true return to form for the series. Not sure if I'm going to be able to wait and see if there's going to be a Switch version, or just go and get a PS4.

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#21  Edited By ellos
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@ezekiel43: it's not like Re or Bloodborne. They did change some of the effects to give this render a bit of a cleaner style. Still has that look slightly to me. I think there pc analysis will get into it to see of you can mess with some settings. Consoles appear to be locked in.

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#22 Archangel3371
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This game looks amazing. I’m so hyped to start playing it tomorrow. ?

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#23  Edited By ronvalencia
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@ellos:

VII has ~13.4 TFLOPS

V64 LC has ~13.66 TFLOPS

V64 has ~12.58 TFLOPS

GTX 1080 Ti FE has 12.9 TFLOPS at 1800Mhz (stealth boost mode) or 12.2 TFLOPS at 1700Mhz

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#24 ellos
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@ronvalencia: I already kinda known that Native 4k is hard. Native 4k at max settings is freaken hard. I'm playing with the tittle there in case its not clear. Lets see where console settings are with there reconstructed implementations.

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#25  Edited By deactivated-60113e7859d7d
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@ellos said:

@ezekiel43: it's not like Re or Bloodborne. They did change some of the effects to give this render a bit of a cleaner style. Still has that look slightly to me. I think there pc analysis will get into it to see of you can mess with some settings. Consoles appear to be locked in.

I noticed the chromatic abberation right away when I played the PS4 demo.

Playing it now. I've been grinning with pleasure so much the last hour.

Highly recommend keeping the resolution at 4K but lowering the resolution scaling option to 70 percent or less. It's buttery smooth that way on my GTX 1070 and Ryzen 5 2600X. 4K is too demanding.

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#26 sealionact
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@tormentos: "incredible to believe the ps4 is a better 1080p machine than the xbox one x is a 4k one."

That's the latest in a string of incredibly inane comments..... Its like saying a VW bug is a better 60mph car than an Aston Martin Vanquish is a 200mph car.

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#27 tdkmillsy
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@tormentos said:

Nice.

Sad part is most xbox fans will play the very worse version.

Hello, A PC with anything less than a 1060 puts there hand up to claim the worst version. Of which there are more PC's with less than 1060 than with 1060 and above.

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#28 sealionact
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@tdkmillsy: Shhhhh..... you're talking way too much common sense.

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#29 phantom68985100
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Hello

I just tried to find some sort of official screenshot thread here in this area, but no joy.

Now, given how people like taking and sharing screenshots, I'd say it's high time someone higher up on these forums (mods?) set up an official thread just for screenshots.

That way, whenever we see something fun or spectacular in a game, we could post pics of it all here on the official screenshots thread.

Just a though. A picture says more than thousand words after all.

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#30 SecretPolice
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Japanese devs are so mediocre. Will they ever get with the 21st century? :P

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#31  Edited By Randoggy
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Will be playing this on PC. Surprised to see the game has already been cracked, RE2 took a week.

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#32 Antwan3K
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Lol @ that topic title.. Well done

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#33 ellos
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@Antwan3K said:

Lol @ that topic title.. Well done

Hey thanks, glad you liked it.

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#34 Zero_epyon
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@goldenelementxl said:

“During cut-scenes, neither Pro or X hold 60 FPS but Pro turns between 5 to 20% faster performance.”

WTF?!?!

This sacrificing performance for pixels needs to stop. Why wouldn’t the X run a native 1800p locked at 60? It’s clearly not a CPU thing because the X chip is clocked higher than the Pro’s.

Compromise? What compromise?

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#35 DaVillain  Moderator
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@Randoggy said:

Will be playing this on PC. Surprised to see the game has already been cracked, RE2 took a week.

I heard it got cracked day one. Capcom released an unprotected exe by mistake lol.

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#36 DrLostRib
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what about more than 60fps?

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#37 Randoggy
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@davillain- said:
@Randoggy said:

Will be playing this on PC. Surprised to see the game has already been cracked, RE2 took a week.

I heard it got cracked day one. Capcom released an unprotected exe by mistake lol.

Someone got fired lol.

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#38  Edited By tormentos
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@tdkmillsy said:
@tormentos said:

Nice.

Sad part is most xbox fans will play the very worse version.

Hello, A PC with anything less than a 1060 puts there hand up to claim the worst version. Of which there are more PC's with less than 1060 than with 1060 and above.

Say what?

Loading Video...

1080p 60FPS ultra 1050ti under the 1060.

I am sure quite allot more GPU under as well can run it at 60FPS just by playing with some setting which you can't do on xbox one s.

But I was referring to consoles which is what this thread is about not PC which by the way is the superior platform.

@sealionact said:

@tdkmillsy: Shhhhh..... you're talking way too much common sense.

No he isn't and he got owned on the process..lol

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#39  Edited By ronvalencia
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@tormentos said:
@tdkmillsy said:
@tormentos said:

Nice.

Sad part is most xbox fans will play the very worse version.

Hello, A PC with anything less than a 1060 puts there hand up to claim the worst version. Of which there are more PC's with less than 1060 than with 1060 and above.

Say what?

Loading Video...

1080p 60FPS ultra 1050ti under the 1060.

I am sure quite allot more GPU under as well can run it at 60FPS just by playing with some setting which you can't do on xbox one s.

But I was referring to consoles which is what this thread is about not PC which by the way is the superior platform.

Your video doesn't show real ultra settings e.g. Texture quality being medium is not actually ultra settings

Loading Video...

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#40 tormentos
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@ronvalencia said:

Your video doesn't show real ultra settings e.g. Texture quality being medium is not actually ultra settings

Loading Video...

Before you quote some one with something stupid first read.

My video is for 1080p not 4k, and while 1 setting is medium the rest is ultra and runs at 60FPS far surpassing the xbox one S which was my argument since tdkmillsy claimed PC with GPU under the 1060 will have a the worse version.

Basically he was wrong and if funny that instead of quoting him for falsely claiming that anything under a 1060GTX will have a worse experience than the xbox one S you quote me to claim not all setting are ultra in my video (as if the xbox one S was all ultra) and post a freaking video totally irrelevant for what I was arguing.

Congratulations you once again won the ""who the fu** was arguing that award"" given to poster who bring shit completely irrelevant to the point at hand to try to prove some one wrong, no person has won it so many times in a row a you have.

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#41  Edited By ronvalencia
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@tormentos said:
@ronvalencia said:

Your video doesn't show real ultra settings e.g. Texture quality being medium is not actually ultra settings

Loading Video...

Before you quote some one with something stupid first read.

My video is for 1080p not 4k, and while 1 setting is medium the rest is ultra and runs at 60FPS far surpassing the xbox one S which was my argument since tdkmillsy claimed PC with GPU under the 1060 will have a the worse version.

Basically he was wrong and if funny that instead of quoting him for falsely claiming that anything under a 1060GTX will have a worse experience than the xbox one S you quote me to claim not all setting are ultra in my video (as if the xbox one S was all ultra) and post a freaking video totally irrelevant for what I was arguing.

Congratulations you once again won the ""who the fu** was arguing that award"" given to poster who bring shit completely irrelevant to the point at hand to try to prove some one wrong, no person has won it so many times in a row a you have.

Your video

Texture Quality set to medium

Effects quality set to high.

My video example

Texture Quality set to ultra

Effects quality is set to ultra.

Texture Quality impacts VRAM storage which is a weakness for 1050 Ti

Effects quality impacts shader compute resource which is a weakness for 1050 Ti

Your "while 1 setting is medium the rest is ultra"IS FALSE

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#42  Edited By FireEmblem_Man
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DF forgot to include that the PS4 version is censored compared to the Xbox and PC version

EDIT: I'm not posting the image here, but here's the link

https://twitter.com/JoshuaMFrench/status/1104449134629666817

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#44 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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The game outputs $4000!? Damn, I gotta get in on that cash :P

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#45  Edited By lundy86_4
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@FireEmblem_Man: lol, but whhhhy? It's legitmately someone's ass. I'm shocked Japan didn't censor that, considering their prudish porn lol. For the West, that's hilarious... Especially for anyone who's European... Old and saggy breasts are the staple of any family vacation!

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#46 ronvalencia
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@FireEmblem_Man said:

DF forgot to include that the PS4 version is censored compared to the Xbox and PC version

EDIT: I'm not posting the image here, but here's the link

https://twitter.com/JoshuaMFrench/status/1104449134629666817

It's lens flare based censorship.

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#48 BenjaminBanklin
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@XVision84 said:

The game outputs $4000!? Damn, I gotta get in on that cash :P

Damn, they should have done this with Crackdown 3. Maybe a couple of dozen more people would have bought it.

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#49 lundy86_4
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@getyeryayasout: It's fun. Sometimes it's below water and you wonder if they're hot... Then they get up and you want to drown.

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#50 tormentos
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@ronvalencia said:

Your video

Texture Quality set to medium

Effects quality set to high.

My video example

Texture Quality set to ultra

Effects quality is set to ultra.

Texture Quality impacts VRAM storage which is a weakness for 1050 Ti

Effects quality impacts shader compute resource which is a weakness for 1050 Ti

Your "while 1 setting is medium the rest is ultra"IS FALSE

Prove the xbox one S runs ultra or even 1080p native to begin with ass since that was my argument.

The xbox one S version is total shit with drops to the 30's and not native 1080p, the 1050Ti runs this game at much higher settings which prove tdkmillsy claim wrong now quote him and tell him he was wrong. lol

@FireEmblem_Man said:

DF forgot to include that the PS4 version is censored compared to the Xbox and PC version

EDIT: I'm not posting the image here, but here's the link

https://twitter.com/JoshuaMFrench/status/1104449134629666817

And how is that related to performance.?

By the way how is the switch version?