Deus Ex: Human Revolution Hype Thread (New Reviews!) (HYPE- AAA)

Finally got around to beating it last night. Now that I have, I think that Kevin nailed it with an 8.5. Great game on the whole, but the brain dead A.I. and lackluster boss battles can't just be glossed over either. While I enjoyed getting vengeance, the boss encounters just were not very compelling, nor very challenging. Some of the easily manipulated A.I. becomes a walk in the park towards the end and all of the hacking and vent crawling gets a bit redundant as well. Above all of that, the game is still a great ride overall. It just did not leave me with the great impressions from the first few hours, but still left me satisfied all the same.

I went to Montreal thinking ya imba new zone then it was only be stuck in 1 building then back to Detroit? is the game close to being done? Allthishate

This game was a really big dissapointment for me. I would rather go and play the original rather than finish this one.GeneralShowzer

It may be slightly disapointing but it's still better than most other recent games.

* takedowns are way more fun and cool than any knife or baton :DAdobeArtist

They're not as cool as this.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]* takedowns are way more fun and cool than any knife or baton :DCherokee_Jack

*Dragon tooth sword*

They're not as cool as this.

Pretty much. The lack of melee weapons is a huge disapointment as far as I´m concerned,it was a huge part of the gameplay in the first one and seeing it replaced by takedowns is just sad.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]This game was a really big dissapointment for me. I would rather go and play the original rather than finish this one.toast_burner

It may be slightly disapointing but it's still better than most other recent games.

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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]* takedowns are way more fun and cool than any knife or baton :DArach666

*Dragon tooth sword*

They're not as cool as this.

Pretty much. The lack of melee weapons is a huge disapointment as far as I´m concerned,it was a huge part of the gameplay in the first one and seeing it replaced by takedowns is just sad.

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

*Dragon tooth sword*

They're not as cool as this.

GeneralShowzer

Pretty much. The lack of melee weapons is a huge disapointment as far as I´m concerned,it was a huge part of the gameplay in the first one and seeing it replaced by takedowns is just sad.

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]This game was a really big dissapointment for me. I would rather go and play the original rather than finish this one.GeneralShowzer

It may be slightly disapointing but it's still better than most other recent games.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]I'm a massive fan of the original, I still consider it the best game ever.

It may be slightly disapointing but it's still better than most other recent games.

toast_burner

* takedowns are way more fun and cool than any knife or baton :DAdobeArtist

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]* takedowns are way more fun and cool than any knife or baton :Dmillerlight89

Meh. They make the game waaaaay too easy and I hate constantly losing control of my character.

The game should have had both takedowns and regular base melee attack that used either melee weapons or your arm-blade (which would not take a battery cell but on the flip side would not always be a 1 shot K.O.)

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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]* takedowns are way more fun and cool than any knife or baton :DArach666

*Dragon tooth sword*

They're not as cool as this.

Pretty much. The lack of melee weapons is a huge disapointment as far as I´m concerned,it was a huge part of the gameplay in the first one and seeing it replaced by takedowns is just sad.

To be fair, the Dragon's Tooth was incredibly overpowered and made all close-quarters combat in the game a joke (even without much melee training).

I don't think it hurts HR that much not having melee. For me melee in the first became useless pretty quickly, other than the Dragon's Tooth. I always just tasered or did a headshot if I was close and needed a quiet takedown.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

*Dragon tooth sword*

They're not as cool as this.

Cherokee_Jack

Pretty much. The lack of melee weapons is a huge disapointment as far as I´m concerned,it was a huge part of the gameplay in the first one and seeing it replaced by takedowns is just sad.

To be fair, the Dragon's Tooth was incredibly overpowered and made all close-quarters combat in the game a joke (even without much melee training).

I don't think it hurts HR that much not having melee. For me melee in the first became useless pretty quickly, other than the Dragon's Tooth. I always just tasered or did a headshot if I was close and needed a quiet takedown.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]* takedowns are way more fun and cool than any knife or baton :DJankarcop

Meh. They make the game waaaaay too easy and I hate constantly losing control of my character.

The game should have had both takedowns and regular base melee attack that used either melee weapons or your arm-blade (which would not take a battery cell but on the flip side would not always be a 1 shot K.O.)

The takedowns made the stealth gameplay too easy for my taste. I hope someone manages to mod some melee mechanics into the game (and leaning as well). The less "press a button and something awesome happens" the better. ;)

Im about start my 2nd playthrough but wonder how "Foxiest of the hounds: Complete Deus Ex: Human Revolution without setting off any alarms" achievement will work. With "alarms" do they mean when enemy spot you and radar turns red/hostile or just when they hear you and searching for you? I mean sometimes it is kinda impossible to avoid to get "alarm" on radar :?

* takedowns are way more fun and cool than any knife or baton :DAdobeArtist

So true. The melee was painfully bad in the original Deus Ex.

Take downs are just one of the many things HR surpasses the original.

Im about start my 2nd playthrough but wonder how "Foxiest of the hounds: Complete Deus Ex: Human Revolution without setting off any alarms" achievement will work. With "alarms" do they mean when enemy spot you and radar turns red/hostile or just when they hear you and searching for you? I mean sometimes it is kinda impossible to avoid to get "alarm" on radar :?

aroxx_ab

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]* takedowns are way more fun and cool than any knife or baton :DIronBass

So true. The melee was painfully bad in the original Deus Ex.

Take downs are just one of the many things HR surpasses the original.

Atleast DX1 had melee combat. Takedowns aren't melee combat, they are cutscenes enabled when you press a button near an enemy.

I would have liked both.

I'm so upset my first playthrough was a pacifist run and I think when I was killing a robot with a EMP grenade it exploding had killed two knocked out guards....and I didn't get my pacifist achievment!

I was trying to get Foxiest of Foxes and Pacifist in the same run...sad panda now.

Atleast DX1 had melee combat. Takedowns aren't melee combat, they are cutscenes enabled when you press a button near an enemy.

I would have liked both.

Jankarcop

I wouldn't. No need to include a bad game mechanic when a far superior one gets the job done.

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

Im about start my 2nd playthrough but wonder how "Foxiest of the hounds: Complete Deus Ex: Human Revolution without setting off any alarms" achievement will work. With "alarms" do they mean when enemy spot you and radar turns red/hostile or just when they hear you and searching for you? I mean sometimes it is kinda impossible to avoid to get "alarm" on radar :?

Jynxzor

Ah cool, i thought get red hostile enemies was "alarm" for sure, it is that hard as i first thought then thx

Because no hype thread is complete without its respective PA comic.

(On-topic, I didn't find the boss battles that bad, they're especially susceptible to mines, which are easy to find, so it's easy to end the fights quickly).

I like the visuals very much.

The color pallet, art-style, good use of DOF and blur, the enviroments packed with huge ammounts of detail.

They could have put some more polygons on the characters though.

[QUOTE="BlackoutGunshot"]Just finished. Amazing game, best on this gen. I did a playthrough where I tried not to kill innocent people (the police, for example) but brutalized the mercs. I had only a couple criticisms: - The battery thing is stupid. I don't mind that only the first recharges, but then why have the other three batteries? Did anybody actually waste Praxis points getting those upgraded? Either have them all manual, recharge them all, or just leave it at one battery, but the way they left it in the game makes no sense. - Where did Melee weapons go, and why? I really wanted a knife or baton. I know Takedowns replace melee weapons, but they take time, energy, and they make noise. - Some augments seemed useless, and they got rid of weapon proficiency augments from the first one. I missed those a lot, really wanted to level up my sniping skills. I did not have any issues with: - The boss fights, but I didn't do a completely pacifist play through, so maybe it seems more out of place then. I thought they were pretty fun. The first was the most difficult for me. - The voice acting. It was charmingly bad, just like the first game. - The graphics. I don't need every game to look photo realistic. AdobeArtist

* I hear you on the battery thing. It seems odd to me that you go to the trouble to upgrade your energy capacity, and can only do a partial recharge.

What they should have done is include augments to allow recharge of more than one battery, all the way up to all five.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="BlackoutGunshot"]Just finished. Amazing game, best on this gen. I did a playthrough where I tried not to kill innocent people (the police, for example) but brutalized the mercs. I had only a couple criticisms: - The battery thing is stupid. I don't mind that only the first recharges, but then why have the other three batteries? Did anybody actually waste Praxis points getting those upgraded? Either have them all manual, recharge them all, or just leave it at one battery, but the way they left it in the game makes no sense. - Where did Melee weapons go, and why? I really wanted a knife or baton. I know Takedowns replace melee weapons, but they take time, energy, and they make noise. - Some augments seemed useless, and they got rid of weapon proficiency augments from the first one. I missed those a lot, really wanted to level up my sniping skills. I did not have any issues with: - The boss fights, but I didn't do a completely pacifist play through, so maybe it seems more out of place then. I thought they were pretty fun. The first was the most difficult for me. - The voice acting. It was charmingly bad, just like the first game. - The graphics. I don't need every game to look photo realistic. MirkoS77

* I hear you on the battery thing. It seems odd to me that you go to the trouble to upgrade your energy capacity, and can only do a partial recharge.

What they should have done is include augments to allow recharge of more than one battery, all the way up to all five.

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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

* I hear you on the battery thing. It seems odd to me that you go to the trouble to upgrade your energy capacity, and can only do a partial recharge.

lawlessx

What they should have done is include augments to allow recharge of more than one battery, all the way up to all five.

Yea it felt like a complete waste. Especially because energy bars weren't that easy to come by (at least for me).

I like the visuals very much.

The color pallet, art-style, good use of DOF and blur, the enviroments packed with huge ammounts of detail.

They could have put some more polygons on the characters though.

GeneralShowzer

why everyone says barret is a hard boss??? he is not!!! i beat him in 5 tries. with my magnum and 2 grenades. on deus ex difficulty. without dermal aug. you just have to use some cover. i actually felt underwhelmed by his difficulty, i wanted more!

why everyone says barret is a hard boss??? he is not!!! i beat him in 5 tries. with my magnum and 2 grenades. on deus ex difficulty. without dermal aug. you just have to use some cover. i actually felt underwhelmed by his difficulty, i wanted more!

ioannisdenton

I guess the point is that everyone playing stealthy non-lethal characters would have difficulty with the bosses, since they won't have any proper weapons, damaging grenades, or armour mods.

Then again, I still killed Barrett on my first try with just the stun gun and tranquiliser darts. He's stupidly easy, unlike...say, Namir, who's pretty much impossible without admitting defeat and picking up that shotgun.

[QUOTE="ioannisdenton"]

why everyone says barret is a hard boss??? he is not!!! i beat him in 5 tries. with my magnum and 2 grenades. on deus ex difficulty. without dermal aug. you just have to use some cover. i actually felt underwhelmed by his difficulty, i wanted more!

Planeforger

I guess the point is that everyone playing stealthy non-lethal characters would have difficulty with the bosses, since they won't have any proper weapons, damaging grenades, or armour mods.

Then again, I still killed Barrett on my first try with just the stun gun and tranquiliser darts. He's stupidly easy, unlike...say, Namir, who's pretty much impossible without admitting defeat and picking up that shotgun.