DETROIT: Become Human - The Downgrade Thread

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#1 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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Image on the left is from the most current build, one on the right is a bullshot we were fed last year.

And here is a side by side of another character, left pic is from current build, right is a bullshot


Sony fans should be used to this though, right?

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#2 Juub1990
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Current build looks less detailed. It's not a major downgrade but it is one nonetheless.

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#3 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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You are trying too hard, just about all games go through this.

Also i guess QD are just not as talented as Guerrilla.

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#4 Chutebox
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Thats.....not big at all

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#5 LoganX77
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HZD and Infamous SS all looked as good if not better at release. GoW honestly hasnt changed. UC4 looked better then the first gameplay reveal. So in all honesty no its not something PS owners would be use to.

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#6  Edited By QuadKnight
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This shit has been debunked ages ago, I can’t believe you’re posting this fanboy shit on SW. It turned out that the lower quality image was taken from one of those low quality autostream videos from the PS Store and manipulated by a lemming.

Here’s one of the articles debunking it: http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2018/03/05/has-detroit-become-human-had-a-visual-downgrade-nope-read-this/

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#7 tdkmillsy
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very evident downgrade, if MS did this it would be an outrage yet its suddenly accepted here.

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#8  Edited By QuadKnight
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@tdkmillsy said:

very evident downgrade, if MS did this it would be an outrage yet its suddenly accepted here.

It’s fake dude, read my link. Some desperate fanboys manipulated low quality footage to come up with the comparison.

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#9 SecretPolice
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Poo cows...

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#10  Edited By deactivated-5c18005f903a1
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People should know by now this would only be a big deal if it was on Xbox.

As it’s on playstation you’re an idiot for mentioning it and it’s fake!

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#11 Shewgenja
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@boycie said:

People should know by now this would only be a big deal if it was on Xbox.

As it’s on playstation you’re an idiot for mentioning it and it’s fake!

Alternative:

Compared to Quantum Break's downgrade, some of yall might want to just stay quiet.

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#12  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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Nice try!! Convincing for the masses but fake and this shit was already debunk from Youtubers awhile back! So misleading, it will be great to see what digital foundry says when it gets released.

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#13  Edited By Litchie
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Oh, so this one was fake? So it's not to be added to the mountain of games they've promoted with bullshots in the past then?

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#14 DaVillain  Moderator
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@goldenelementxl: I think you might wanna read this before freaking out first! No, Detroit: Become Human Visuals Haven’t Been Downgraded, It’s Just a Low Quality Video

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#15 LoganX77
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@quadknight: Lol wow! Thread Over...

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#16 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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@davillain- said:

@goldenelementxl: I think you might wanna read this before freaking out first! No, Detroit: Become Human Visuals Haven’t Been Downgraded, It’s Just a Low Quality Video

That's not at all what I've posted here. You can see characters details and textures have been simplified. The color contrast has been washed out like every PS4 game vs its reveal, and the clothing has been redesigned to simplify the textures.


@quadknight said:

This shit has been debunked ages ago, I can’t believe you’re posting this fanboy shit on SW. It turned out that the lower quality image was taken from one of those low quality autostream videos from the PS Store and manipulated by a lemming.

Here’s one of the articles debunking it: http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2018/03/05/has-detroit-become-human-had-a-visual-downgrade-nope-read-this/

Ah, so the sixthaxis tells you not to worry and you take is as gospel. So I'm guessing the video compression has simplified hair and facial features too. Here I thought textures were only really affected...

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#17  Edited By QuadKnight
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@goldenelementxl said:
@davillain- said:

@goldenelementxl: I think you might wanna read this before freaking out first! No, Detroit: Become Human Visuals Haven’t Been Downgraded, It’s Just a Low Quality Video

That's not at all what I've posted here. You can see characters details and textures have been simplified. The color contrast has been washed out like every PS4 game vs its reveal, and the clothing has been redesigned to simplify the textures.

@quadknight said:

This shit has been debunked ages ago, I can’t believe you’re posting this fanboy shit on SW. It turned out that the lower quality image was taken from one of those low quality autostream videos from the PS Store and manipulated by a lemming.

Here’s one of the articles debunking it: http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2018/03/05/has-detroit-become-human-had-a-visual-downgrade-nope-read-this/

Ah, so the sixthaxis tells you not to worry and you take is as gospel. So I'm guessing the video compression has simplified hair and facial features too. Here I thought textures were only really affected...

We go through this same shit every time Sony launches a new trailer. I still remember clowns posting about how HZD was downgraded and look how that turned out. If I were you I’d wait till we have the final game in our hands. Relying on fanboy manipulated videos only leads to embarrassment as we saw last year with HZD winning all the technical and graphics awards.

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#18 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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@quadknight:



We are seeing more and more shots of "art direction" changes that involve removing more expensive textures and drops in color contrast. HZD is the console graphics king imo, but with every Uncharted and Killzone game we saw huge drops in quality in the final builds.

If DF does a video on DETROIT, I suspect many of you will have some explaining to do... Again

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#19 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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LOL, thread backfire.

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#20  Edited By QuadKnight
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@goldenelementxl: If there is a downgrade reported by Digital Foundry I’ll concede but for now this thread is bullshit. It’s taken from a fanboy manipulated source and therefore has zero credibility. I prefer to judge games’ graphics after they release not before.

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#21 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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@quadknight said:

@goldenelementxl: If there is a downgrade reported by Digital Foundry I’ll concede but for now this thread is bullshit. It’s taken from a fanboy manipulated source and therefore has zero credibility. I prefer to judge games’ graphics after they release not before.

What is my source?

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#22 JtoThaMtoThaP
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That's a bit disappointing....Sony being Sony

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#23  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@quadknight said:
@goldenelementxl said:
@davillain- said:

@goldenelementxl: I think you might wanna read this before freaking out first! No, Detroit: Become Human Visuals Haven’t Been Downgraded, It’s Just a Low Quality Video

That's not at all what I've posted here. You can see characters details and textures have been simplified. The color contrast has been washed out like every PS4 game vs its reveal, and the clothing has been redesigned to simplify the textures.

@quadknight said:

This shit has been debunked ages ago, I can’t believe you’re posting this fanboy shit on SW. It turned out that the lower quality image was taken from one of those low quality autostream videos from the PS Store and manipulated by a lemming.

Here’s one of the articles debunking it: http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2018/03/05/has-detroit-become-human-had-a-visual-downgrade-nope-read-this/

Ah, so the sixthaxis tells you not to worry and you take is as gospel. So I'm guessing the video compression has simplified hair and facial features too. Here I thought textures were only really affected...

We go through this same shit every time Sony launches a new trailer. I still remember clowns posting about how HZD was downgraded and look how that turned out. If I were you I’d wait till we have the final game in our hands. Relying on fanboy manipulated videos only leads to embarrassment as we saw last year with HZD winning all the technical and graphics awards.

Not only that, look at Witcher 3, it got downgraded and that was a 3rd party game, but when Witcher 3 was release, it still look amazing and it was a successful game and that whole downgrading shit didn't hurt the game at all.

Downgrading is always the least of my worries, as long as the actual game is fun and gameplay wise, those are very important to me then a lousy downgrade of a game. Let's just wait for Digital Foundry Detroit Become Human get analyze and we can go from there. I been following Detroit for a long time and I can already tell you it's not downgraded at all.

Edit: When DF does a video, I will concede my words with no issues.

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#24 SecretPolice
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So many SW cows in hermit clothes doing the loudest moooooing.. lol Good stuff. :P

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#25 enzyme36
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Game looks dope on both sides... a few beads of sweat and some shiny clothes missinf don't bother me none.

Besides I don't play ps4 for the graphic showcase... I just want the game.

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#26  Edited By BassMan
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@goldenelementxl said:

That is a clear downgrade in assets and rendering/lighting. That has nothing to do with video compression or resolution like others are going on about. There is a legit downgrade there.

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#27 PAL360
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Looks great and it's almost here! Thanks for the reminder TC :)

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#28 lamprey263
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I already figure many won't like this game, many din't like Telltale games either and similar games, maybe exception being Life Is Strange. I really don't mind what this game is. I like David Cage's past games, I am looking forward to him reintroducing branching paths into his game, something he said earlier is going to be more of a focus this time around.

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#29 Vaeh
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Looks like old screenshots were taken from PC. Sony is master of downgrades.

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#30 JoshRMeyer
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@goldenelementxl: Not just Sony fans... Everyone. It happens at every E3. It's really not much of a down grade. The first picture actually looks more realistic in the current build. The second, just the opposite.

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@PAL360 said:

Looks great and it's almost here! Thanks for the reminder TC :)

Pretty much. This is a day one purchase for sure no matter what lol

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#32  Edited By QuadKnight
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@davillain-: Well said bro, I totally agree.

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#33  Edited By freedomfreak
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Y'all motherfuckers should be worrying about the box art.

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Wait... I thought that nobody cared about "movie games".

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#36 CRUSHER88
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Is the one on the left a regular PS4 version? Is it possible the PS4 Pro version would be a bit closer to the images on the right? I guess this is just the reality of hardware limitations. Either way, fans of QD games still have something to look forward to.

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#37 APiranhaAteMyVa
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Thread backfired

Another genre defining, limousine riding, lemmings suicidal, Sony creating another gaming idol, AAA exclusive.

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#38 Jacanuk
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@goldenelementxl: Please provide a link to the source, those images on its own is proof of nothing.

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@goldenelementxl said:

@quadknight:

We are seeing more and more shots of "art direction" changes that involve removing more expensive textures and drops in color contrast. HZD is the console graphics king imo, but with every Uncharted and Killzone game we saw huge drops in quality in the final builds.

If DF does a video on DETROIT, I suspect many of you will have some explaining to do... Again

Yup, that's what I thought. Low quality video wouldn't be able to change the material of the cloth nor the lighting or shaders. It's evidently downgraded.

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David Cage has proven himself capable of structuring and directing singular scenes that work well in terms of storytelling and in an interactive fashion, as the game asks players to engage with tense situations and take action while under pressure. He is able to do those kinds of scenes well. Or shorter interludes like the homeless chapter in Beyond. I feel like he thrives when he has something more condensed to put his focus into. I'd like to see Quantic do an anthology of short stories.

I am somewhat concerned about Detroit. I think it will once again contain good stand-alone segments. But I have the opposite of confidence in Cage's ability to write about anything touching on race. The guy used the "but I have a black friend" defense, and said to judge him by his work, which very much proves the opposite of what he thinks it does. Apparently he thinks his past work shows he's good at handling these topics? Does not inspire confidence.

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#41 pdogg93
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Hey look, more jelly salty xbone fannies with nothing to play. Bu bu but Phil Spencer said he was only going to announce games coming sooner rather than 3 years out! Repeat ad nauseam since 2014.

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#42  Edited By Pedro
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It still looks great so I don't see whats the problem.

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Still has nice graphics, pity the game looks completely bland.

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@SecretPolice: You are the GOAT bro.

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Pretty sad, especially considering the whole game is just one giant cinematic.

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LOL shocking

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#47  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Ze art.

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#48  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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Xbox fans thought they had something to cling onto today, but what they didn't have... was games.

LOL, this game ain't even gonna be that good and they're salty for no reason.

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#49 kingtito
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Xbox fans thought they had something to cling onto today, but what they didn't have... was games.

LOL, this game ain't even gonna be that good and they're salty for no reason.

By your logic every cow thread ever created bashing graphics download is because cows are salty? Doesn't matter which game it was, if the graphics downgraded in the slightest cows were all over it.

Thanks, good to know how salty cows are

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#50 PC_Rocks
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@loganx77 said:

HZD and Infamous SS all looked as good if not better at release. GoW honestly hasnt changed. UC4 looked better then the first gameplay reveal. So in all honesty no its not something PS owners would be use to.

Ummmmm...what? Is that why DF even published the video comparing the two and went as far as to say that the initial reveal was pre-rendered even if we ignore that the final game runs at half the FPS?