Debunking the PS3's alleged Blu-Ray advantage

I'm not bashing on the PS3 here, before i even start. I am bothered however, by two of my friends who sing the praises of the machine because it's built-in Blu-Ray player. It doesn't matter if you point out the unimpressive games (and i'm not saying it'll always be that way....), they will always come back with the "yeah man, but it's got a high-def movie player built right in!"

And that, is the supposed advantage over the 360 and justification for the increased price. Because the PS3 has a built-in high-def video player.

Well, so does the 360. Right now i can go on xbox live, and even though i have a gold membership i dont need one - it's completely free for everybody who owns a 360 - and i can go to the video marketplace and download myself an episode of south park in HD. Or a full movie for that matter, in high-def.

And it's hardly just a little add-on. XBox Live is the bigger provider of HD movies via the internet, that's how big it is. Only one site beats it in terms of overall video downloads (including standard definition) and that's iTunes. And what's more, the cost of downloading these movies is about a fifth of the cost of a blu-ray movie, and that's before you factor in the extra $100 you paid for the PS3.

I realise there are downsides to some extent; for example the movie is a rental. You watch it a certain number of times and then it's gone; but i'm fine with that so long as the price remains so low.

I think microsoft need to make people more aware of all the stuff the 360 can do. There's no reason why the PS3 should be see as some superior media-machine. The only thing it's really got that the 360 doesn't is the web browser.

Thoughts? 

Not much HD movies in a 20 gig HDD wouldnt you agree?

single layered BD-roms have more space than that :|
Squall_Griver

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[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"]Not much HD movies in a 20 gig HDD wouldnt you agree?

single layered BD-roms have more space than that :|
mentzer

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No. 1080p is better than 720p. And I don't like waiting 2 hrs for the movie to download.ironwarrior2

I'm not bashing on the PS3 here, before i even start. I am bothered however, by two of my friends who sing the praises of the machine because it's built-in Blu-Ray player. It doesn't matter if you point out the unimpressive games (and i'm not saying it'll always be that way....), they will always come back with the "yeah man, but it's got a high-def movie player built right in!"

 

And that, is the supposed advantage over the 360 and justification for the increased price. Because the PS3 has a built-in high-def video player.

 

Well, so does the 360. Right now i can go on xbox live, and even though i have a gold membership i dont need one - it's completely free for everybody who owns a 360 - and i can go to the video marketplace and download myself an episode of south park in HD. Or a full movie for that matter, in high-def.

 

And it's hardly just a little add-on. XBox Live is the bigger provider of HD movies via the internet, that's how big it is. Only one site beats it in terms of overall video downloads (including standard definition) and that's iTunes. And what's more, the cost of downloading these movies is about a fifth of the cost of a blu-ray movie, and that's before you factor in the extra $100 you paid for the PS3.

 

I realise there are downsides to some extent; for example the movie is a rental. You watch it a certain number of times and then it's gone; but i'm fine with that so long as the price remains so low.

 

I think microsoft need to make people more aware of all the stuff the 360 can do. There's no reason why the PS3 should be see as some superior media-machine. The only thing it's really got that the 360 doesn't is the web browser.

 

Thoughts?

Ninja-Vox

Not much HD movies in a 20 gig HDD wouldnt you agree?

single layered BD-roms have more space than that :|
Squall_Griver

How would you take that downloaded HD movie to a friends house? i wouldn't like downloading HD movies how Big are they?
PLUS! you would need internet to watch movies in HD which after that you will need to update trough Xboxlive to watch the movie in 1080p
"buh buh teh PS3 needs update also"-what im expecting
PS3 on the other hand will have update trough video games -or- you can download the update trough PC and update it on the PS3 where as 360 you need a direct interweb connection to your XBOX360 theres no alternative solution
I preferr PS3 as a HD player not 360 :| srry (see that was my oppinion just like when you said "but i'm fine with that so long as the price remains so low.") Squall_Griver

With all due respect, what mythical household are you describing whereby the owner wants to spend $600 on a games console, owns an HDTV and is debating which method of viewing HD-movies is better - but doesn't have an internet connection?  

Enter the Elite and MS's ramped-up HD download service.fartgorilla

So basically in order for Microsoft to keep up, they had to release an entire new SKU with features that could have been added to the original Xbox 360.

And if your Xbox 360 does not have HDMI, you can forget IPTV. It's not like content providers are going to allow their precious content being output through VGA or component. No copy protection.  

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[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"]Not much HD movies in a 20 gig HDD wouldnt you agree?

single layered BD-roms have more space than that :|
Infinatey

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[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"]Not much HD movies in a 20 gig HDD wouldnt you agree?

single layered BD-roms have more space than that :|
Ninja-Vox

[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"]
How would you take that downloaded HD movie to a friends house? i wouldn't like downloading HD movies how Big are they?
PLUS! you would need internet to watch movies in HD which after that you will need to update trough Xboxlive to watch the movie in 1080p
"buh buh teh PS3 needs update also"-what im expecting
PS3 on the other hand will have update trough video games -or- you can download the update trough PC and update it on the PS3 where as 360 you need a direct interweb connection to your XBOX360 theres no alternative solution
I preferr PS3 as a HD player not 360 :| srry (see that was my oppinion just like when you said "but i'm fine with that so long as the price remains so low.") Ninja-Vox

With all due respect, what mythical household are you describing whereby the owner wants to spend $600 on a games console, owns an HDTV and is debating which method of viewing HD-movies is better - but doesn't have an internet connection?

I'm not bashing on the PS3 here, before i even start. I am bothered however, by two of my friends who sing the praises of the machine because it's built-in Blu-Ray player. It doesn't matter if you point out the unimpressive games (and i'm not saying it'll always be that way....), they will always come back with the "yeah man, but it's got a high-def movie player built right in!"

And that, is the supposed advantage over the 360 and justification for the increased price. Because the PS3 has a built-in high-def video player.

Well, so does the 360. Right now i can go on xbox live, and even though i have a gold membership i dont need one - it's completely free for everybody who owns a 360 - and i can go to the video marketplace and download myself an episode of south park in HD. Or a full movie for that matter, in high-def.

And it's hardly just a little add-on. XBox Live is the bigger provider of HD movies via the internet, that's how big it is. Only one site beats it in terms of overall video downloads (including standard definition) and that's iTunes. And what's more, the cost of downloading these movies is about a fifth of the cost of a blu-ray movie, and that's before you factor in the extra $100 you paid for the PS3.

I realise there are downsides to some extent; for example the movie is a rental. You watch it a certain number of times and then it's gone; but i'm fine with that so long as the price remains so low.

I think microsoft need to make people more aware of all the stuff the 360 can do. There's no reason why the PS3 should be see as some superior media-machine. The only thing it's really got that the 360 doesn't is the web browser.

Thoughts?

Ninja-Vox

[QUOTE="Infinatey"][QUOTE="mentzer"]

[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"]Not much HD movies in a 20 gig HDD wouldnt you agree?

single layered BD-roms have more space than that :|
Ninja-Vox

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Fifth of price of what ? Rental ? How long can you keep the movies ?

And: What about the quality of the video ?

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Fifth of price of what ? Rental ? How long can you keep the movies ?

And: What about the quality of the video ?

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tranhgiang

Why be such a fanboy? Do you see me posting /thread every time i make a point? Is a form not for discussion? I was simply highlighting the fact that the 360 has a very strong HD-movie playback system which very few people take note of. Sure, the picture quality might not be as good as Blu-Ray, but it's 720p which is damned good, and it only costs a couple of bucks as apposed to the $33 you spend on a blu-ray movie, on top of the added cost of the ps3 itself. You've also got enough space on your hard drive to have two full movies to watch at any given time. I think that's good.

 Is that too much? I apologise if i've offended you; i didn't realise you worked for Sony corp.

I'm not bashing on the PS3 here, before i even start. I am bothered however, by two of my friends who sing the praises of the machine because it's built-in Blu-Ray player. It doesn't matter if you point out the unimpressive games (and i'm not saying it'll always be that way....), they will always come back with the "yeah man, but it's got a high-def movie player built right in!"

And that, is the supposed advantage over the 360 and justification for the increased price. Because the PS3 has a built-in high-def video player.

Well, so does the 360. Right now i can go on xbox live, and even though i have a gold membership i dont need one - it's completely free for everybody who owns a 360 - and i can go to the video marketplace and download myself an episode of south park in HD. Or a full movie for that matter, in high-def.

And it's hardly just a little add-on. XBox Live is the bigger provider of HD movies via the internet, that's how big it is. Only one site beats it in terms of overall video downloads (including standard definition) and that's iTunes. And what's more, the cost of downloading these movies is about a fifth of the cost of a blu-ray movie, and that's before you factor in the extra $100 you paid for the PS3.

I realise there are downsides to some extent; for example the movie is a rental. You watch it a certain number of times and then it's gone; but i'm fine with that so long as the price remains so low.

I think microsoft need to make people more aware of all the stuff the 360 can do. There's no reason why the PS3 should be see as some superior media-machine. The only thing it's really got that the 360 doesn't is the web browser.

Thoughts?

Ninja-Vox

The 360 is more furturistic... RKFS

[QUOTE="mentzer"]

[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"]Not much HD movies in a 20 gig HDD wouldnt you agree?

single layered BD-roms have more space than that :|
Infinatey

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[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"]Not much HD movies in a 20 gig HDD wouldnt you agree?

single layered BD-roms have more space than that :|
mentzer

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360 is compatible with USB external hardrives. You can get a 320 GB HDD for about $110 and if you wait for a good deal you can probably get an external case with it for free. 

By all means, i realise that owning the movie is preferable to renting it with a lot of people. That's an advantage of blu-ray. However i am simply stating that the 360 has an HD-movie playback option which stands up to the PS3's in many ways thanks to the much lower cost and simplicity in watching your chosen movie/video. I'm not saying it's BETTER; so a lot of you need to calm down and actually read the post. Ninja-Vox

Can you download theater movies? Like which? How long does it take to download and how much do they cost? 

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]By all means, i realise that owning the movie is preferable to renting it with a lot of people. That's an advantage of blu-ray. However i am simply stating that the 360 has an HD-movie playback option which stands up to the PS3's in many ways thanks to the much lower cost and simplicity in watching your chosen movie/video. I'm not saying it's BETTER; so a lot of you need to calm down and actually read the post. munu9

Can you download theater movies? Like which? How long does it take to download and how much do they cost?

The 360 is more furturistic... RKFS

I'm not bashing on the PS3 here, before i even start. I am bothered however, by two of my friends who sing the praises of the machine because it's built-in Blu-Ray player. It doesn't matter if you point out the unimpressive games (and i'm not saying it'll always be that way....), they will always come back with the "yeah man, but it's got a high-def movie player built right in!"

 

And that, is the supposed advantage over the 360 and justification for the increased price. Because the PS3 has a built-in high-def video player.

 

Well, so does the 360. Right now i can go on xbox live, and even though i have a gold membership i dont need one - it's completely free for everybody who owns a 360 - and i can go to the video marketplace and download myself an episode of south park in HD. Or a full movie for that matter, in high-def.

 

And it's hardly just a little add-on. XBox Live is the bigger provider of HD movies via the internet, that's how big it is. Only one site beats it in terms of overall video downloads (including standard definition) and that's iTunes. And what's more, the cost of downloading these movies is about a fifth of the cost of a blu-ray movie, and that's before you factor in the extra $100 you paid for the PS3.

 

I realise there are downsides to some extent; for example the movie is a rental. You watch it a certain number of times and then it's gone; but i'm fine with that so long as the price remains so low.

 

I think microsoft need to make people more aware of all the stuff the 360 can do. There's no reason why the PS3 should be see as some superior media-machine. The only thing it's really got that the 360 doesn't is the web browser.

 

Thoughts? 

Ninja-Vox

The 360's hd content is limited to rental and by the 20 gig hard drive, so how is having a blu-ray player standard not a advantage??

Also won"t the ps3 have similar hd content on psn???