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#1  Edited By above_average
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Dead Space Remake | PS5 - Xbox Series S|X - PC | Graphics Comparison | El Analista De Bits

  • Xbox Series X /PS5- Quality Mode: 1440p/30fps with VRS | RT ON
  • Xbox Series X/PS5 - Performance Mode: Dynamic 2048x1080p with VRS | RT OFF
  • PS5 loads the slowest of all versions @1:36 taking 18 seconds while other version take nearly half the time
  • PC version looks the best with no use of VRS instead using DLSS as a performance saving measure
  • Xbox Series X has a performance advantage over PS5 in performance mode, see @4:59 of vid.
  • The use of VRS on PS5 is worse than the Xbox Series consoles version
  • Outside of resolution and VRS all versions appear graphically identical

My take away, all in all Dead Space Remake appears both technically and graphically inferior to The Colisto Protocol, which at least was displaying a very impressive use of ray-tracing as DF covered, while the use of RT shown in Dead Space Remake appears average at best.

Also the use of VRS is a horrible solution for performance saving (don't know why they didn't go with FSR 2.0 instead) and causing horrible artifacting on objects of the console version (refer to @0:50 of the video) of this game.

Thoughts?

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#2  Edited By above_average
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Just for comparison sake here were the metrics for The Colisto Protocol on consoles

  • Xbox Series X/PS5: - Quality Mode: 2160p/30fps + Ray-Tracing with dynamic temporal reconstruction
  • Xbox Series X/PS5- Performance Mode: 2160p/60fps with dynamic temporal reconstruction
  • Performance mode on PS5/Series X has a lower dynamic resolution, closer to 1872p on average with temporal reconstruction.
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#4  Edited By Pedro
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@qui-gon-milk said:

This

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Lol shit this is a cool damage control thread. Congrats to you for bringing us El Analista De Bits. Donde está lá zapatería?

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@kathaariancode: lmao

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#7  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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@above_average: nothing surprising, 12 tflop > 9tflop. Seeing that EA is a western dev and mostly has a good relationship with MS, theres no way that phony gets special treatment as lead console again.

The SSD won't save the cows.

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#8 hardwenzen
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1080p? GTFO.

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#9 DaVillain  Moderator
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If DF is not involved when it comes to these Comparisions, then this thread is a failure!

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Series S punching above it's weight.

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#11  Edited By above_average
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@davillain said:

If DF is not involved when it comes to these Comparisions, then this thread is a failure!

They'll speak on it soon. This guy isn't perfect but he's usual within the ball park of what's happening.

This game isn't going to magically jump from 1080p 60fps to 1440p or higher in performance mode nor is it going to be free of those nasty VRS artifacts on console when DF do their review.

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@hardwenzen: “ 1080p? GTFO.”

Well hey, anything more than that and your 27” 1080p monitor will overheat.

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#13  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@davillain said:

If DF is not involved when it comes to these Comparisions, then this thread is a failure!

99% of DF videos is spent talking about Motion Blur, which so happens to be the first thing I turn off in any video game.

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Drops to 0 fps constantly on my Steam Deck. I think it's time to upgrade to a ayaneo 😭😭

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Drops to 0 fps constantly on my Steam Deck. I think it's time to upgrade to a ayaneo 😭😭

It has massive fps drops on my 3080 as well. Even dropped to 1440 and it'll dip down to 0fps for literally no reason. Hell, it even likes to do it when changing settings lol.

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@lundy86_4 said:
@theam0g said:

Drops to 0 fps constantly on my Steam Deck. I think it's time to upgrade to a ayaneo 😭😭

It has massive fps drops on my 3080 as well. Even dropped to 1440 and it'll dip down to 0fps for literally no reason. Hell, it even likes to do it when changing settings lol.

Must be that shader compilation.😈

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#17  Edited By above_average
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@lundy86_4 said:
@theam0g said:

Drops to 0 fps constantly on my Steam Deck. I think it's time to upgrade to a ayaneo 😭😭

It has massive fps drops on my 3080 as well. Even dropped to 1440 and it'll dip down to 0fps for literally no reason. Hell, it even likes to do it when changing settings lol.

Sounds like an unoptimized mess across the board then.

I wondered why the analyst used DLSS *Performance Mode* on a freaking 3080 and above instead of DLSS *Quality Mode* or simply native resolutions

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@above_average said:
@lundy86_4 said:
@theam0g said:

Drops to 0 fps constantly on my Steam Deck. I think it's time to upgrade to a ayaneo 😭😭

It has massive fps drops on my 3080 as well. Even dropped to 1440 and it'll dip down to 0fps for literally no reason. Hell, it even likes to do it when changing settings lol.

Sounds like an unoptimized mess across the board then.

I wondered why the analyst used DLSS *Performance Mode* on a freaking 3080 and above instead of DLSS *Quality Mode* or simply native resolutions

The Callisto Protocol launch all over again. I'll try to run it on my 3090 once I get off work, but currently it's a no-go on the Deck.

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@above_average said:

Sounds like an unoptimized mess across the board then.

I wondered why the analyst used DLSS *Performance Mode* on a freaking 3080 and above instead of DLSS *Quality Mode* or simply native resolutions

It's not the absolute worst, and doesn't suffer CP shader nonsense (pre-loads), but the fps dips are random and nonsensical. I was exiting an area and an enemy attacked and it dropped to sub-10fps... My fps counter had to catch up.

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@sealionact said:

@hardwenzen: “ 1080p? GTFO.”

Well hey, anything more than that and your 27” 1080p monitor will overheat.

This is not how this work, little sealion🐒

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Finally a Xbox wins thread lmao.

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Im looking forward to getting this

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Looks like I'm getting it on SX

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#24 hardwenzen
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Lems are squeezing their hogs to this win😁

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@hardwenzen said:

Lems are squeezing their hogs to this win😁

It's been a while, they deserve it.

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#26  Edited By deactivated-654dc0d1e0e5b
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Just played an hour or so at home on my 3090. Runs well with random little stutters but nothing game breaking. Running on Ultra settings at a constant 80+ fps.

Graphics dont hold a candle to the beauty that is The Callisto Protocol, but they're passable. Most textures are flat and blocky with bump mapping which is extremely noticeable. Physics are nearly identical to the original game and so are the monster animations. (I just finished a playthrough of the original 3 a few weeks ago so they're fresh on my mind)

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What's with the magical SSD on PS5?

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If I'm being honest, I've not noticed any loading time for the PS5. Maybe I'm just not paying attention when it happens. :/

Graphically, though the game looks good, it's not graphically impressive. Demon Souls Remake still holds the title of best looking new-gen game, in my opinion.

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@thedork_knight said:

What's with the magical SSD on PS5?

That is strange and doesn't make much sense. Not sure why it would take longer on the PS5.

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If a developer cannot get a SSD running around the same for whatever platform, then they are probably rubbish or deceitful.

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#31  Edited By hardwenzen
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@thedork_knight said:

What's with the magical SSD on PS5?

What kind of a dumb question, Karlos. To unlock the full potential of this kind of technology, it takes time, a lot of time. Sony is not yet ready to release it to the public, which i am OK with, and so should you.

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@hardwenzen: probably not enough triangles in the game

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#33 regnaston
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@davillain said:

If DF is not involved when it comes to these Comparisions, then this thread is a failure!

I think comparison videos are nothing more than fun things to look at and for fan boys to dick measure when it comes to their favorite console (most games need a post launch patch)... but the guy referenced in the video is not some random, he actually does good analysis

John Linneman actually talks about some VRS problems that occur in this game with the console versions. See this thread

also EA has already said it is going to patch it

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#34 regnaston
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@Pedro said:
@thedork_knight said:

What's with the magical SSD on PS5?

That is strange and doesn't make much sense. Not sure why it would take longer on the PS5.

perhaps someone finally utilized every aspect of the velocity architecture??

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#35  Edited By BassMan
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Xbox wins my ass. PC wins as usual.

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#36  Edited By Pedro
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@BassMan said:

Xbox wins my ass. PC wins as usual.

So this PC wins.🤭
So this PC wins.🤭

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Hate shader caching. Cutscenes often drop me to 20-30fps, and when the Kellion was destroyed, I hit single digits. I died once and when I went to the next cutscene (finding the captain), it played at the full 60.

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#38 Pedro
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@lundy86_4 said:

Hate shader caching. Cutscenes often drop me to 20-30fps, and when the Kellion was destroyed, I hit single digits. I died once and when I went to the next cutscene (finding the captain), it played at the full 60.

It would be great if shader compilation can be squeezed in intermittently during moments when the game is not stressing the hardware. This would potentially eliminate the hiccups from shader compilation.

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@Pedro said:

It would be great if shader compilation can be squeezed in intermittently during moments when the game is not stressing the hardware. This would potentially eliminate the hiccups from shader compilation.

Yeah, that would be good. It's frustrating that it's by-and-large the cutscenes... I just don't get how some of these games are QA'd and something isn't done. It's not like it's a minor problem.

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#40 Pedro
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@lundy86_4 said:

Yeah, that would be good. It's frustrating that it's by-and-large the cutscenes... I just don't get how some of these games are QA'd and something isn't done. It's not like it's a minor problem.

If gamers don't complain or make it an issue, it is acceptable.

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@Pedro said:

If gamers don't complain or make it an issue, it is acceptable.

Sad, but true.

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@Pedro said:
@BassMan said:

Xbox wins my ass. PC wins as usual.

So this PC wins.🤭
So this PC wins.🤭

It wins as much as an original Xbox does.

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@above_average: And yet, PC version wins again. Flawless victory for the PC crowd👌

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I can't wait to buy this game on sale.

For pc because pc is the best 😯

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#45  Edited By Bond007uk
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Gonna wait till the DF verdict methinks. Then it i'll be PC. But, I think I wait a week or three for a patch.

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@theam0g said:

Drops to 0 fps constantly on my Steam Deck. I think it's time to upgrade to a ayaneo 😭😭

Or it's time to stop buying games on launch day when they're in their worst form.

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@davillain said:

@above_average: And yet, PC version wins again. Flawless victory for the PC crowd👌

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@above_average said:
@davillain said:

@above_average: And yet, PC version wins again. Flawless victory for the PC crowd👌

Pretty sure if I tried to run it on my daughters PC it would be very much the worst version.

So how does PC win?

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#49 dabear
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@above_average: I mean, it should? The XSX is a little bit more powerful than PS5 (emphasis on little).

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#50 DaVillain  Moderator
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@above_average said:
@davillain said:

@above_average: And yet, PC version wins again. Flawless victory for the PC crowd👌

How should I know? You tell me.