Crysis possible on consoles?

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]Mostly asking this about the PS3, as I recently saw someone claim that, with the Cell, the PS3 has a processor that outstrips that of most PCs, making Crysis on High and Very High easily possible on consoles. As I know next to nothing about the Cell, I thought I would put the question to you. Is the Cell really that powerful?
Sorry, I'm a total technical idiot.
primateface

cell sucks

I've been hearing a LOT of different stories about the Cell. Some calling it one of the most powerful processors in existence, some saying it is utter trash.

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]Mostly asking this about the PS3, as I recently saw someone claim that, with the Cell, the PS3 has a processor that outstrips that of most PCs, making Crysis on High and Very High easily possible on consoles. As I know next to nothing about the Cell, I thought I would put the question to you. Is the Cell really that powerful?
Sorry, I'm a total technical idiot.
pyromaniac223

cell sucks

I've been hearing a LOT of different stories about the Cell. Some calling it one of the most powerful processors in existence, some saying it is utter trash.

cell can do shaders used to improv how textures look and run procedural generation graphics engines.

But it's basically too slow for pg.

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]Mostly asking this about the PS3, as I recently saw someone claim that, with the Cell, the PS3 has a processor that outstrips that of most PCs, making Crysis on High and Very High easily possible on consoles. As I know next to nothing about the Cell, I thought I would put the question to you. Is the Cell really that powerful?
Sorry, I'm a total technical idiot.
pyromaniac223

cell sucks

I've been hearing a LOT of different stories about the Cell. Some calling it one of the most powerful processors in existence, some saying it is utter trash.

Well considering my $120 E7200 smacks it around, I'd say it is trash.

Anyways, Crysis is really not CPU dependent if you have a decent CPU. For example if I upgraded to an E8500, I would not notice a difference in my framerates unless I upgraded my graphics card as well.

The limiting factor on the PS3 is the RSX. The Xbox 360 could probably run it though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procedural_generation

im willing to bet cell is too slow for great use of it.

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]Mostly asking this about the PS3, as I recently saw someone claim that, with the Cell, the PS3 has a processor that outstrips that of most PCs, making Crysis on High and Very High easily possible on consoles. As I know next to nothing about the Cell, I thought I would put the question to you. Is the Cell really that powerful?
Sorry, I'm a total technical idiot.
pyromaniac223

cell sucks

I've been hearing a LOT of different stories about the Cell. Some calling it one of the most powerful processors in existence, some saying it is utter trash.

Cell is trash for games. Cell is not trash for complex calculations.

LMAO :lol: No the PS3 couldn't even run Crysis in Low because of the lack of Ram.

Today, most games include thousands of times as much data in terms of memory as algorithmic mechanics. For example, all of the buildings in the large game worlds of the Grand Theft Auto games have been individually designed and placed by artists. In a typical modern video game, game content such as textures and character and environment models are created by artists beforehand, then rendered in the game engine. As the technical capabilities of computers and video game consoles increases, the amount of work required by artists also greatly increases. First, high-end gaming PCs and current-generation game consoles like the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 are capable of rendering scenes containing many very detailed objects with high-resolution textures in high-definition. This means that artists must invest a great deal more time in creating a single character, vehicle, building, or texture, since gamers will tend to expect ever-increasingly detailed environments.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procedural_generation#Video_games

That's the next step though...where graphics is heading.

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]Mostly asking this about the PS3, as I recently saw someone claim that, with the Cell, the PS3 has a processor that outstrips that of most PCs, making Crysis on High and Very High easily possible on consoles. As I know next to nothing about the Cell, I thought I would put the question to you. Is the Cell really that powerful?
Sorry, I'm a total technical idiot.
pyromaniac223

cell sucks

I've been hearing a LOT of different stories about the Cell. Some calling it one of the most powerful processors in existence, some saying it is utter trash.

As i said, its not same Cell in PS3 and in supercomputers,servers whatever

A crap Farcry game on the Wii, I'm sure Crysis would be similar on the X360...

BTW, my P4 @ 2.0Ghz, MSI FX5200 128MB runs farcry better than the Wii..

Yes I think the only console that could handle the game would be the PS3. They are releasing a massive game on the system that no other system could run, and the game is not even running all of the systems power. The PS3 has more processing speed than most computers, and the innards of the system are very powerful. I would say the PS3 could easily run the game.XxShadowTongyxX

Fanboy much????

cell is probley too slow to run complex procedural generated games.

Reason it's not being used to great extent now.

A crap Farcry game on the Wii, I'm sure Crysis would be similar on the X360...

BTW, my P4 @ 2.0Ghz, MSI FX5200 128MB runs farcry better than the Wii..

HostileEffect

Awww that is ugly,especialy hand... my eyes hurt

Cell can do shaders....shaders make up fire/smoke/lightning and stuff in games...shaders are used on textures to give them more detail also.

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A crap Farcry game on the Wii, I'm sure Crysis would be similar on the X360...

BTW, my P4 @ 2.0Ghz, MSI FX5200 128MB runs farcry better than the Wii..

Lidve

Awww that is ugly,especialy hand... my eyes hurt

Holy crap, that was his hand????? I thought that was a piece of wood or something....

Cell can do shaders....shaders make up fire/smoke/lightning and stuff in games...shaders are used on textures to give them more detail also.

primateface

Actualy,fire / smoke are mostly just some 2D images that "face camera" all the time

Shaders are used to "render" scene and have nothing to do with fire/smoke mostly

So if the Cell is really not suited for games why did Sony include it in the PS3 then talk about it like crazy with the media.pyromaniac223

So if the Cell is really not suited for games why did Sony include it in the PS3 then talk about it like crazy with the media.pyromaniac223

Because they are insane. I have no idea why they did that.

So if the Cell is really not suited for games why did Sony include it in the PS3 then talk about it like crazy with the media.pyromaniac223

Probably because Sony wanted that PS3 become more than console for gaming,they wanted that PS3 "replace pc" :roll:

+ probably for easier/faster decoding encoding

So if the Cell is really not suited for games why did Sony include it in the PS3 then talk about it like crazy with the media.pyromaniac223

Because it has super untapped potential that, when unleashed, allow you to make games that look almost as good as doom III.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]So if the Cell is really not suited for games why did Sony include it in the PS3 then talk about it like crazy with the media.Kez1984

Because it has super untapped potential that, when unleashed, allow you to make games that look almost as good as doom III.

HAHA that was good one i laughed hard xD hahah :lol:

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]So if the Cell is really not suited for games why did Sony include it in the PS3 then talk about it like crazy with the media.Lidve

Probably because Sony wanted that PS3 become more than console for gaming,they wanted that PS3 "replace pc" :roll:

+ probably for easier/faster decoding encoding

Did they really think it would replace the PC? Wow...respect for Sony just went down.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]So the Cell really isn't better than most PC processors? Or is it more complicated than that?Vandalvideo

Did they really think it would replace the PC? Wow...respect for Sony just went down.pyromaniac223

Lol, than you should check out some other stuff like

1."ps3 cures cancer"

2.Propoganda: Xbox is too big! Big stupid American design! Offensive to Japanese and other stylish people!

Reality: PS3 is bigger than the original Xbox.

3.Propoganda: Xbox have nVidia graphic! M$ too stupid to make their own graphic! They have to get PC graphic chip! Hahah! Xbox just PC in a box! Sony make their own Graphic Synthesizer! Awesome console technology!

Reality: PS3 has nVidia graphics.

4.Propoganda: Nintendo was stupid to push connectivity between a handheld and a console.

Reality: Sony pushes connectivity between a handheld and a console.

5."Users will be able to store their content in an online storage server called the 'Cell Storage'. And the Cell processor, when it's not being used, can refine the content's quality. We call it the 'ageing' process. For example, users can 'age' their Standard Definition (SD) video and up-convert it to High Definition (HD) video.

HAhahahhaha

there is more just google it "sony lies" etc

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]So the Cell really isn't better than most PC processors? Or is it more complicated than that?muscleserge

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]So if the Cell is really not suited for games why did Sony include it in the PS3 then talk about it like crazy with the media.Kez1984

Because it has super untapped potential that, when unleashed, allow you to make games that look almost as good as doom III.

WOW..MGS4 dosent even look better than a 2004 game?..sad.

PS3 is teh powarzz!!! my ass

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]Mostly asking this about the PS3, as I recently saw someone claim that, with the Cell, the PS3 has a processor that outstrips that of most PCs, making Crysis on High and Very High easily possible on consoles. As I know next to nothing about the Cell, I thought I would put the question to you. Is the Cell really that powerful?
Sorry, I'm a total technical idiot.
Lidve

Consoles cant even run maxed out Oblivion for Gods sake

I dont know if youve ever noticed but Oblivion on a PC is terrible. The framerate is so choppy and the graphics very edgy. Definitely runs much smoother on the PS3/360.

Actualy,fire / smoke are mostly just some 2D images that "face camera" all the time

Shaders are used to "render" scene and have nothing to do with fire/smoke mostly

Lidve

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]So if the Cell is really not suited for games why did Sony include it in the PS3 then talk about it like crazy with the media.organic_machine

Because they are insane. I have no idea why they did that.

"...not in its current state" -Crytek.Vandalvideo

yea well, a water downed port is still possible.

I dont know if youve ever noticed but Oblivion on a PC is terrible. The framerate is so choppy and the graphics very edgy. Definitely runs much smoother on the PS3/360.ChiSoxBombers

HAHAHA are you serrious ? :roll:

Oblivion on PS3 / X360 is like low-medium with some stuff on high :roll:

Dont make me post screenshots please

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Actualy,fire / smoke are mostly just some 2D images that "face camera" all the time

Shaders are used to "render" scene and have nothing to do with fire/smoke mostly

Teufelhuhn

Lol,first thing i noticed in KZ2 smoke were those 2D images lol :roll: , at least in smoke from missile

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]Mostly asking this about the PS3, as I recently saw someone claim that, with the Cell, the PS3 has a processor that outstrips that of most PCs, making Crysis on High and Very High easily possible on consoles. As I know next to nothing about the Cell, I thought I would put the question to you. Is the Cell really that powerful?
Sorry, I'm a total technical idiot.
ChiSoxBombers

Consoles cant even run maxed out Oblivion for Gods sake

I dont know if youve ever noticed but Oblivion on a PC is terrible. The framerate is so choppy and the graphics very edgy. Definitely runs much smoother on the PS3/360.

Another ****c post.

c/l/a/s/s/i/c is a banned word? What?

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]So if the Cell is really not suited for games why did Sony include it in the PS3 then talk about it like crazy with the media.Pinkyimp

Because it has super untapped potential that, when unleashed, allow you to make games that look almost as good as doom III.

WOW..MGS4 dosent even look better than a 2004 game?..sad.

PS3 is teh powarzz!!! my ass

Tactical graphical upgrade espionage action.

Everyone goes on about the cells spe's being able to handle offloaded tasks from the gpu, i.e. you fanboys go on about the cell rendering gfx lol. The cell has 6 spe's available to do that. Todays gpu's have hundreds of stream processors. The cell is weak at rendering graphics and has nowhere near the horse power. Don't even get me started on the RSX lol. The PS3 is weak compared to todays PCs, face it guys.

im 100% sure it CANT be on wii

im 45% sure it might be on PS3

im 69% sure it might be on 360

Not in it's current state. It would have to face a lot of technical cutbacks to get it going on consoles and at the end it wouldn't be worth it anymore cause it'll just be a stripped down experience.

Why bring this up anyway? Crytek clearly stated that it can't be done.

Why is this even up for debate? Anyone with a small amount of technical knowledge knows why a Crysis port isn't possible, the CEO of Crytek has said the same thing but people continue to keep asking this same question.

For Crysis to work on consoles the game would have to be redesigned for their hardware; which means changing the game play that made Crysis 'Crysis' while also reducing the graphical quality.

Why is this even up for debate? Anyone with a small amount of technical knowledge knows why a Crysis port isn't possible, the CEO of Crytek has said the same thing but people continue to keep asking this same question.

For Crysis to work on consoles the game would have to be redesigned for their hardware; which means changing the game play that made Crysis 'Crysis' while also reducing the graphical quality.

AnnoyedDragon

I dunno, I'm sure they could port it. Ofcourse, they'll have to snip the level size down, maybe cut them into sections and load them up as needed. Consolites wouldn't mind having a loading screen now and then. You could throw out any sort of AA, drop the settings to low/medium and then run it at 576p. With a bit of post processing giving anything in the distance a blurred effect it might just work.

There, you 'could' have crysis on consoles :lol: