Chip shortage to last until 2023

https://www.ign.com/articles/chip-shortage-drag-into-2023-ps5-xbox-series-x-gpu-supply-issues

This just plain sucks.

“ Within the last year, the chip shortage has caused strains across numerous industries including gaming. If you are hoping to easily secure a PS5, Xbox Series X/S, or RTX 30 graphics cards, it likely won't happen until 2023.”

Damn. Replacing my computer is going to cost me a mint. 😑 Ah well. 🤷‍♀️

Good thing I got a 3070 at a decent price, and the new consoles are crap and does not interest me to go out and look for them.

@jasonofa36: consoles > pc currently.

I saw some 3070’s at Microcenter today. $850+. GTFO with that. I guess I’m gonna turn into a console gamer now

Good times to be a scalper.

@Pedro: Must put that Bing to work.

@sheevpalpamemes: Nah.

@sheevpalpamemes: sadly I don't have my ps5 anymore and finding a non scalped one is like looking for a unicorn. I decided to just rebuy a ps4 and wait out for the ps5 slim. I mean is there really anything worth buying it for at the moment?

Another thing to note, 2023 is right around when nintendo will probably release a mid refresh switch pro...I'm guessing it will finally reach the level of xbox one base model or the ps4. Either way, good enough. With the old ass hardware, nintendo should never needs to worry about chip shortages.

Had a ridiculous storm roll through today and all I could think was "please don't fry anything"

For how much longer will i be gpuless😭

I guess. 😂

Has been said by Intel etc the same thing. Although, it is better now.

Pretty sure it's going to be longer than that. Ford still has thousands of vehicles parked in Kentucky waiting for chips.

I wouldn't expect RTX 30's too much below msrp by the time this is all over. Best wait for an inevitable crypto bust and scour Ebay.

Computer hardware has already advanced to the point they need gimmicks to sell them. 4K, ray tracing, lmfao. You may spend $800 just to see a 1% of a 1% increase in visuals. I think gamers will be fine. Consider the scalper prices some people will undoubtedly pay for that 1% of a 1% increase in visuals at a significant reduction in frame rate a simple tax on stupid.

The real problem will be people on really old hardware that actually do need to upgrade, even to last gen stuff and cannot find the parts. It'll be the worst for them.

How the f is 4k a gimmick? I don't consider it worth it as of yet because it eats too many frames, but a gimmick? A cleaner picture is never a gimmick.

@hardwenzen: For ****'s sake. I've explained this to you and many others before ad nauseum. You have the attention span and memory capacity of a goldfish if I have to explain it to you YET AGAIN.

Video games are not still images, they exist in motion. Digital displays amplify the noticeable effects of motion blur. This is made even more noticeable by lower frame rates. 4K will NEVER be able to run as smooth as other, better resolutions. What you MIGHT gain in a very, very tiny noticeable improvement of clarity in still images you're immediately going to lose in motion blur the second the screen begins to move and change. Which as I've already established happens quite a lot in gaming. So unless you plan to play Uno and Yu-Gi-Oh for the rest of your life, an image that is sharper in motion isn't going to be 4K, it's going to be 1080P and 1440P.

There will never be any point in time in history now or ever where 4K will be smoother than 1080P or 1440P. Every new generation as we get more and more detail into games, more mechanics that require per frame calculations, better physics, we'll have lower frame rate to spare on gimmicky resolutions that provide almost no visual benefit even on still images, and loses out the to superior frame rates the second the screen moves.

4K is being pushed, rather dishonestly, by console manufacturers because if not for it, you could still play every single next gen title on your existing PS4 and XB1. There would be no reason for anyone to buy the newer consoles. 4K is being sensationalized and hype to sell hardware, not games.

Hi,

Are you insane? If its some hardcore drugs, i will accept it and move on with my life.

Do you have anything to add or discuss, or just bleating as usual?

@eoten: This is easily the dumbest comment I've seen in weeks, thank you 😂😆😂

@eoten:
Ehm, the bigger the screen size gets, the more wrong your "preach" is... 🙄

Your whole wall is🤦‍♂️Nothing to discuss, you're from another dimension.

@hardwenzen: Best Buy should have GPUs sometime next week so if you WFH it should be doable (but not guaranteed) to get one. Just subscribe to a restock Twitter. I would not bother with Amazon as those are impossible to get manually but BB is decent (that's how I got my 3070)

I'll look into buying an RTX3080super next year.

If I can't buy one, eh, whatever.

So another guaranteed two years of Switch battering the PS5 and XSX into submission?

Good times. At least this offers Cows and Lems an excuse.

Which sums up about every post or thread you have ever made or created. So, I guess just more bleats from you.

AMD will be coming out with a 6600XT to compete with Nvidia's 3060TI. If I upgrade, it'll be to that.

@eoten: You're the one saying that 4k is just hype🤣How stoned must you be to go this far? Talking about motion blur to justify your bs.

Like imagine thinking that when you're playing a game, all you're doing is turning the camera for that motion blur to be strong enough to hide the crispiness of a 4k picture. Have you ever heard of pressing W instead of turning the camera, buddy? Yea, it can happen in video games.

What you've said is so stupid that something tells that you haven't played anything at over 1080p (probably stuck with the Switch🤭). Do you have any idea how much of a difference 4k makes (or even 1440p for that matter) for tracking movement at long ranges in an fps? You're clueless.

But I was told it's the best time to be a gamer.

@casey-wegner: dude Switch is selling well because it's available. Doesn't mean you have anything worthwhile to play besides Mario, Zelda, Animal Crossing, and Wii ports. Have a seat already. Switch is missing out on all major multiplats. Nintendo had to merge handheld and console market to be relevant.

@eoten: I want the drugs you are on.

The drug is called reality, something Playstation fanboys on here don't seem too familiar with.

Well that’s why you can’t game in 4K. You keep buying low end AMD GPUs.

You claim 4K will never be as “smooth“ as 1080p of 1440p. Why even play at 1440p? It’ll never be as “smooth” as 1080p. Hell, wouldn’t that make 720p the best?

Yeah, because it costs Nvidia considerably more money to produce a GPU at the same performance level as AMD, which is why you pay more for the same performance. Smart. Secondly, I'm pretty sure I've made it clear I prioritize high frame rate over resolution. Had you ever owned a display capable of more than 60hz, you'd know. The difference you see between 30fps and 60fps is the difference I see between 60fps and 120fps and you're never going to experience that at 4K.

I'll take crystal clear smooth AF motion over that "cinematic" nauseating motion blur any fuckin' day.

The f are you on about? Where fps matters most? Competitive multiplayer. Do you max your visuals in it? No. So what makes you think i can't get 144fps in 1440p (and that's just my personal monitor, you can most certainly achieve better frames without the need of a 3090)?

You can get your "CRYSTAL CLEAR SMOOTH AF MOTION" in 1440p, unless you're using ghost's computer, nub.

We clearly don’t live in the same dimension. Because in the earth I’m on, AMD can’t compete with Nvidia. Has not. Is not. Will not.

AMD launches GPUs years after Nvidia and they still fall short. Every time.

@goldenelementxl: Show me a product made by Nvidia that can compete with AMD at any price point? You can't because it costs Nvidia more money to match what AMD offers so you will always pay more for the same performance. If you don't think this is actually the case, ask Intel how that turned out.

@eoten: my (former) Vega 64 would like to have a word with you

@eoten: you’re a bad troll.

@eoten: When running at the same frame rate, 2160p > 1440p > 1080p. This is a fact. There is nothing to argue. Sure, it is easier to run lower resolutions, but that is why they release a wide range of GPUs. For those fortunate enough to have a high end GPU, they are not bothering with 1080p unless they are running a 240hz or 360hz monitor for competitive gaming. Personally, I have a RTX 3080 that drives a 3440x1440/120hz G-Sync monitor and a 4K/120hz G-Sync OLED TV. I also have a 1440p/144hz G-Sync monitor that I got in 2014. I haven't played at 1080p on my main rig in a long time.

Agreed. God awful troll this eoten guy is. Must be living in 2010 telling himself that anything over 1080p is completely useless (cuz you know, back then it was actually hard to achieve at high frames).

His AMD GPUs struggle at higher resolutions, so he’s convinced himself that higher resolutions are bad. While ignoring damn near every benchmark that shows Nvidia clearly in the lead generation after generation. And things like raytracing and DLSS are just gimmicks because AMD can’t compete there either…

At this point i am trying to get one directly from EVGA. Signed up for their reminder tingy, so just waiting on their restock and hope i don't get destroyed by customs since i am in Canada. Canadacomputers had this 3070ti for $799CAD a few days ago, and i missed😖

The funniest thing of all is that he talks about how much he hates blur, but shits on DLSS. DLSS is amazing because it overrides TAA and you don't get that nasty TAA blur in motion.

Damn. The only good news is that by the time PS5 is finally widely available, Sony might already have released a slim version. How I hope.

Are you guys actually trying to have a rational debate with Eoten? Oh my naive friends...

Any recommendations for pre-built machines?

I'm really glad I got my Alienware M15 R3, I decided to skip out on Ampere and wait for Lovelace but it seems even that will suffer from GPU shortages.