Can you see the difference between 30 and 60 fps?

There's no way people can't see the diference between 30 and 60 fps, no offense. Its an obvious diference. EVERYBODY DOES note. If it says its not, its lying, even for itself.

I know lots of console players that actually goes to a point of believing in their own lies that 30/60 diference fps aren't noticiable by the human eye.

I play fighting games so yeah it is like night and day to me. I also game on pc on fps the person with the fastest mouse, best connection and best frame rate gets the kill all things being equal.

Yes, but it's not all that important except for some games.funsohng

Every person in this thread can see the difference between 30 and 60fps. Play a game where you can cap your FPS then look at a wall edge and pan your view at 30 then 60. You'll easily see the difference. You could all easily see the difference between 60 and 100fps as well by the same method (provided your desplay has the necessary refresh rate).

There are a few reasons you don't notice the difference as much. LCDs have fairly poor pixel response compared to CRTs (which is why you see grey to grey response times posted in LCD specs). So one frame bleeds into the subsequent frame. The next factor is all the horrible blur filters added to games to prevent all the edge flashing you would normally see around fast moving objects/view panning. The final, and main reason is that you are simply used to it. If you spend most of your time playing games at 60fps, you'll notice 30fps.

From a purely visual standpoint I can easily see the difference. When I pan the camera, for instance, at 30fps the whole image becomes very blurry and it is hard to distinguish details until I stop moving the camera. At 60fps I can pan the camera at moderate speeds and still clearly see details in the environment....everything looks so much clearer during movement. Since we are moving most of the time in games this 'temporal resolution' has a huge impact on perceived visual fidelity.

Perhaps more important, though, is the impact 60fps has on the response of the controls. Games feel much smoother and more responsive at 60fps vs 30fps. A faster framerate reduces the lag between your hands and the game. The impact this has on the way a game plays and feels is dramatic.

I can tell the difference between 30 fps and 45 fps.

I do believe that people who really think that playing on 60 FPS makes a huge difference are just tricking themselves. I wouldn't be able to notice the diffence between the two unless they were side to side, and I do play on a computer quite regularly.

I do believe that people who really think that playing on 60 FPS makes a huge difference are just tricking themselves. I wouldn't be able to notice the diffence between the two unless they were side to side, and I do play on a computer quite regularly.

magnax1

I do believe that people who really think that playing on 60 FPS makes a huge difference are just tricking themselves. I wouldn't be able to notice the diffence between the two unless they were side to side, and I do play on a computer quite regularly.

magnax1

I also play on pc and I can plainly see the diffrence between 60+ and 45fps. I have even lowered my setting to get 60 plus frames on shoters just for the extra frames.

I do believe that people who really think that playing on 60 FPS makes a huge difference are just tricking themselves. I wouldn't be able to notice the diffence between the two unless they were side to side, and I do play on a computer quite regularly.

magnax1

Really? Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 on the Xbox 360 plays out way smoother than Halo: Reach since it has 60 fps.

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I do believe that people who really think that playing on 60 FPS makes a huge difference are just tricking themselves. I wouldn't be able to notice the diffence between the two unless they were side to side, and I do play on a computer quite regularly.

Rude_Bwoii

I also play on pc and I can plainly see the diffrence between 60+ and 45fps. I have even lowered my setting to get 60 plus frames on shoters just for the extra frames.

I'm not saying I can't notice the difference when I look for it, but there is a difference between looking for it and affecting the actual play when you're just playing the game and don't pay attention to any sort of graphical stuff. It just doesn't affect gameplay in any way.

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I do believe that people who really think that playing on 60 FPS makes a huge difference are just tricking themselves. I wouldn't be able to notice the diffence between the two unless they were side to side, and I do play on a computer quite regularly.

Vesica_Prime

Really? Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 on the Xbox 360 plays out way smoother than Halo: Reach since it has 60 fps.

I can tell on reach, because truthfully it drops below 30 FPS pretty often and it sort of gives me a headache after a bit especially on campaign (I don't think it drops below 30 much in multiplay though) Other games, not so much, I can't tell the difference between COD4 and World at war which are 60 and 30 respectively, right? I mean like I said, if I looked for it I could, but not when I'm just playing.

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I do believe that people who really think that playing on 60 FPS makes a huge difference are just tricking themselves. I wouldn't be able to notice the diffence between the two unless they were side to side, and I do play on a computer quite regularly.

magnax1

I also play on pc and I can plainly see the diffrence between 60+ and 45fps. I have even lowered my setting to get 60 plus frames on shoters just for the extra frames.

I'm not saying I can't notice the difference when I look for it, but there is a difference between looking for it and affecting the actual play when you're just playing the game and don't pay attention to any sort of graphical stuff. It just doesn't affect gameplay in any way.

i cant tell to be honest

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I do believe that people who really think that playing on 60 FPS makes a huge difference are just tricking themselves. I wouldn't be able to notice the diffence between the two unless they were side to side, and I do play on a computer quite regularly.

magnax1

I also play on pc and I can plainly see the diffrence between 60+ and 45fps. I have even lowered my setting to get 60 plus frames on shoters just for the extra frames.

I'm not saying I can't notice the difference when I look for it, but there is a difference between looking for it and affecting the actual play when you're just playing the game and don't pay attention to any sort of graphical stuff. It just doesn't affect gameplay in any way.

seeing it is debatable, but you can definitely feel the difference between 30 and 60fps.

seeing it is debatable, but you can definitely feel the difference between 30 and 60fps.

supdotcom

Yeah easily but i don't care much, if the game is good then never do i feel so disconnected from the game that i watch for flickering to go to a forum and complain about it.

i cant tell to be honest

mkeyou

It's extremely obvious; more so on a computer monitor. With a keyboard and mouse the difference in feeling is also much more apparent than with an analog stick.

No so much that I see it, it's more I feel it. i5750at4Ghz

Its just not that hard to tell. The best way to see that is to see a game on TV or actually playing the game.

I honestly can't see the difference.

I honestly can't see the difference.

DillonShwing

Its harder to tell if you are using the internet videos. The smoothest kind of videos that I know of are youtube or ign videos or maybe bonus round gt videos.

Yes, it's a world of difference, and makes thing so much smooth and more playable, which is why I game on PC.

mitu123

the difference between 15 and 30 is huge. the difference between 30 and 60 is not that big but it's still noticeable. obviously 60 is more smooth but not to the point that blew me away

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]Yes. See for yourself. This demonstration involves a little blue block jumping up and down. The quality of the animation is very noticeable. If you throw in full scale 3d environments and a bunch of moving characters you'll notice the same quality (or lack there of) in everything on screen. MrSelf-Destruct

Yes. It's an entire world of difference.

Yes, clearly.

Yes. It's very easy to see actually.

yes COD would not be plable at 30 FPS, or racing games for that mater..... some are playable at 30 but you always want 60 FPS.

Yes. See for yourself. This demonstration involves a little blue block jumping up and down. The quality of the animation is very noticeable. If you throw in full scale 3d environments and a bunch of moving characters you'll notice the same quality (or lack there of) in everything on screen. MrSelf-Destruct

this right here proves i don't give a **** about this kind of stuff. i honestly don't care about the difference between 60 and 30 FPS. i guess hardcore tech guys do, but i just want to play the ****ing game.

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]Yes. See for yourself. This demonstration involves a little blue block jumping up and down. The quality of the animation is very noticeable. If you throw in full scale 3d environments and a bunch of moving characters you'll notice the same quality (or lack there of) in everything on screen. lazerface216

this right here proves i don't give a **** about this kind of stuff. i honestly don't care about the difference between 60 and 30 FPS. i guess hardcore tech guys do, but i just want to play the ****ing game.

Of course I can.

Easily. I have some difficulty between 60FPS and 120FPS

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]Yes. See for yourself. This demonstration involves a little blue block jumping up and down. The quality of the animation is very noticeable. If you throw in full scale 3d environments and a bunch of moving characters you'll notice the same quality (or lack there of) in everything on screen. lazerface216

this right here proves i don't give a **** about this kind of stuff. i honestly don't care about the difference between 60 and 30 FPS. i guess hardcore tech guys do, but i just want to play the ****ing game.

Is noticeable when you play the game, especially a fast paced game. Playing the ****ing game smoothly is a big deal for some games.

Yes, it's a world of difference, and makes thing so much smooth and more playable, which is why I game on PC.

mitu123

I can tell the difference between 100 and 120 fps. Most PC gamers can, since we can actually play games like that. It's more a 'feel' thing really. Higher framerates feel so much better. Playing CSS at over 200fps just feels so fast and responsive.

Yes, for sure. 30 fps is relatively smooth, but 60fps just appears...smoother. It has a certain fluidity that you don't see at 30 fps. And I have a plasma TV, so 30 fps games have some judder issues(where you see double or triple images around objects in motion, an artifact of the motion blur effect the game devs add in), whereas 60 fps games have no judder.

Yes. I used to have difficulties distinguishing between different rates, but ever since I started playing more first person shooters, I've been able to recognise framerate quite easily without using Fraps or anything.

Yes, I can feel the difference too. 30 FPS gives me a headache.