Bioshock Infinite's ending ruining all games endings for me (no spoilers)

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#1 KungfuKitten
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If I can't mention spoilers I can't really comment.
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Maybe it's because I have been busy with the roots of reality and multidimensional travel and such, but I really wasn't blown away by the ending. The only thing that really surprised me was you being the bad guy. That felt kinda unnecesary and out of nowhere.
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I thought the ending was fine but I don't understand what part of the ending blew you away. Do you mean the way it was told? Or was there something specific that just got to you? Can you be more specific?

This is actually quite important for me because I was working on something to alter the minds of people, and if my experience is so unalligned with that of others I cannot tell whether people will just give up or understand it naturally or be surprised by it.

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#2 Sushiglutton
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Agree, can't think of any other game that comes even close. KungfuKitten
What was the best part of it then? What wow-ed you?

Lol I won't bother discussing things like that on SW. You will just reply in some condescending way so you can look/feel smart. There are much better boards for these kinds of discussions :).

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#3 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Agree, can't think of any other game that comes even close. Sushiglutton

What was the best part of it then? What wow-ed you?

Lol I won't bother discussing things like that on SW. You will just reply in some condescending way so you can look/feel smart. There are much better boards for these kinds of discussions :).

Oy! I'm not that evil. Well not that kind of evil.
I just can't imagine what it would have been like to go through the story as someone more normal than I am.

Like was there something you didn't realize until you got to that point in the game and was like 'woah', or 'bravo'?
I'm not claiming that I saw everything coming in the story. I was just like 'Ah ok, so that happened.' And it didn't do a lot for me.
I'm more interested in what went through your mind. If I were able to I would have liked to have read your mind while playing the game so that I could understand what was interesting about it or a revelation that made you think about things.

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#4 Sushiglutton
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] What was the best part of it then? What wow-ed you?KungfuKitten

Lol I won't bother discussing things like that on SW. You will just reply in some condescending way so you can look/feel smart. There are much better boards for these kinds of discussions :).

Oy! I'm not that evil. Well not that kind of evil.
I just can't imagine what it would have been like to go through the story as someone more normal than I am.

Like was there something you didn't realize until you got to that point in the game and was like 'woah', or 'bravo'?
I'm not claiming that I saw everything coming in the story. I was just like 'Ah ok, so that happened.' And it didn't do a lot for me.
I'm more interested in what went through your mind. If I were able to I would have liked to have read your mind while playing the game so that I could understand what was interesting about it or a revelation that made you think about things.

Short version is that the ending changed the interpretation of pretty much every scene in the game. And when you go thorough it all again, it makes sense and it feels so obvious. I mean it's like a magic trick. Ofc if you saw the magician hiding the dove underneath the table the magic is lost. So I can understand that if you saw it all coming it didn't work for you. I saw none of the things coming. I was in the perfect mood to just take in the ending fully :). Just the start of the ending, going back to Rapture, sent so many chills down my spine that I allready was in wonderland lol.

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#5 KungfuKitten
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Sushiglutton
Careful for spoilers for the silly people who still haven't played it.
So yeah I think I completely missed that human sensation of 'wow this changes the things I have seen earlier.'
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I think the same thing that happened to some people at Giantbomb happened to me. Once they used the idea of multiple dimensions everything could happen. All doors were unhinged. So from that moment on nothing really wowed me anymore. And I didn't feel like the ending changed my interpretation of anything earlier in the game. Like, the protagonist acts on everything as good as he can from the beginning of the game. It doesn't change anything that he turned into evil santa claus in a different walk of life.
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That said I do think it was a really good game and I liked everything about it more so than Bioshock 1, except maybe the bad guy. I kinda preferred the Bioshock 1 bad guy because he's so much like me.

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#6 vanadiel242424
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The amount of effort, storytelling, and downright brilliant pacing for it's ending, truly made all endings of games I played before simply blah in comparison, basically ruining them because they lack the polish infinite's had.

 

I have never seen a game have such an ending that made you basically wonder SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL just happened, and forced yourself to google it.

I played Bioshock 1, never played 2, but this game makes me wanna play the previous games, it;s brilliant.

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The amount of effort, storytelling, and downright brilliant pacing for it's ending, truly made all endings of games I played before simply blah in comparison, basically ruining them because they lack the polish infinite's had.

 

I have never seen a game have such an ending that made you basically wonder SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL just happened, and forced yourself to google it.

I played Bioshock 1, never played 2, but this game makes me wanna play the previous games, it;s brilliant.

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So...you're saying you liked it? And yeah, I agree
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#8 Sushiglutton
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Agree, can't think of any other game that comes even close.
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#9 Krelian-co
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Agree, can't think of any other game that comes even close. Sushiglutton

metal gear solid 3 ending still beats bioshock infinite ending, without having to resort to multiple realities and timelines, but it is pretty high in the good endings list.

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#10 Lucianu
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I have never seen a game have such an ending that made you basically wonder SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL just happened, and forced yourself to google it.

vanadiel242424

Doesn't sound like a good ending to me. If it was that vague that you had to google what the hell happened, the f*ck kind of ending is that? 

Oh well, i gotta play the game and see for my self wen the time comes.  

 

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#11 KungfuKitten
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Agree, can't think of any other game that comes even close. Sushiglutton
What was the best part of it then? What wow-ed you?
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#12 Supabul
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I'd rather have a really tough boss to beat

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#13 ActionRemix
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Did we play the same game or did I play an alternate Bioshock Infinite from another universe with a hysterical ending?

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#15 starjet905
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As someone who's been exposed a lot to certain Japanese media where this kinda multi-dimensional storylines are common, I didn't really feel that Bioshock Infinite was anything special at all. I have a feeling that people rate it highly for the multi-dimension thing and What The F*CK? factor alone.
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#16 KungfuKitten
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As someone who's been exposed a lot to certain Japanese media where this kinda multi-dimensional storylines are common, I didn't really feel that Bioshock Infinite was anything special at all. I have a feeling that people rate it highly for the multi-dimension thing and What The F*CK? factor alone.starjet905
Right YES FINALLY! That is fantastic! You felt the same way I felt now I'm not alone anymore! ::dances with starjet::
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Inb4texasruinsthread.

I agree I played it 3 times back to back and hunted down every voxiphone in the game, the truly amazing thing is how I kept noticing "things" This might be a bit of a stretch but Elizabeth is a little sister( she wears the same clour scheme as some little sisters) and also when she ressurects Booker when he dies the syringe looks suspiciously like the syringes little sisters carry, and obviously if Elizabeth is a little sister Booker must be a big daddy sicne he is protecting her.......or am I just reading too much into things? :oops:

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Oh god any game with a weird ending that could have million explanations is somehow considered "amazing" ....
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agreed and the only two games which came close was bio 1 and mass effect 1.
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#20 dracolich55
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...Not only that, but to me Bioshock Infinite was so close to perfection in all aspects that, I don't even feel like playing games in general anymore after my 2nd run through.
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I wasn't really blown away by the ending because once Multi-dimensions came into it i knew anything was possible. I still enjoyed seeing it all unroll but i was never really mind blown by any of it because i knew that i could expect anything to happen by the very nature of what Multiple dimensions can entail.

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Did we play the same game or did I play an alternate Bioshock Infinite from another universe with a hysterical ending?

ActionRemix

..............   Yeah I don't get it either.. The "twist" was heavily hinted and given away literally half way in to two thirds of the way within the game.. How the hell were people blown away by the ending? It was discombobulated and literally drew completely away half way in with the actual society it self in it being a ultra nationalist and xenophobic early 20th century America..  Probably the most interesting part of the setting, seeing as outside of that it was nothing we hadn't seen similar of in the last two Bioshocks.

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#25 Peredith
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I have never seen a game have such an ending that made you basically wonder SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL just happened, and forced yourself to google it.

vanadiel242424

 

Only if you weren't paying attention to the rest of the game. I saw the "twist" coming from miles away.

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#26 Peredith
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As someone who's been exposed a lot to certain Japanese media where this kinda multi-dimensional storylines are common, I didn't really feel that Bioshock Infinite was anything special at all. I have a feeling that people rate it highly for the multi-dimension thing and What The F*CK? factor alone.starjet905

People need to read more books. Someone even said Bioshock Infinites storytelling was legendary :lol: I know the majority of stories in games are fvcking terrible, and we should applaud good stories, but come the fvck on people.

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#27 skrat_01
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The ending was pretty good. An exposition dump, with some heavily flawed internal logic - but the way it hits and ties things back around is very interesting and in a way well done I'd say. The meta-ness as a commentary about storytelling and games is also a brilliant part of it. That being said I preferred the detestable attitude and grit of Spec Ops - which hit similar themes, minus the wacky sci fi and digital waifu replaces with machismo army edgy. The best thing ever? Hell no I'd say, by a long shot. From Red Dead Redemption, Metal Gear Solid 3 to Shadow of the Colossus and so on, those are just a few hit a a lot harder then Infinite did for me, even if they didn't dive into Science Fiction Dr Who territory.
[QUOTE="starjet905"]As someone who's been exposed a lot to certain Japanese media where this kinda multi-dimensional storylines are common, I didn't really feel that Bioshock Infinite was anything special at all. I have a feeling that people rate it highly for the multi-dimension thing and What The F*CK? factor alone.KungfuKitten
Right YES FINALLY! That is fantastic! You felt the same way I felt now I'm not alone anymore! ::dances with starjet::

Don't watch a lot of anime, but in science fiction it's nothing new, these kind of stories meddling with multiverses date back decades, and probably the most popular fiction examples are Star Trek and Dr Who, which deal with the implications of parallel universes and time travel quite a bit.
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#28 Bread_or_Decide
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I feel people are so STARVED for good endings they're over blowing this one.But I get it, every FPS has a crap ending so when a good one shows up people blow their loads all over it. But really from a storytelling point of view it's weak and spends the whole time EXPLAINING and explaining. Not the sign of a good ending in my opinion. I DON'T like being left in the dark for hours and hours only to be info dumped at the end like some sort of AH-HA!
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My favorite ending besides MGS4 is DEADLY PREMONITION. Now that's a mystery that kept me guessing until the very end. Great ending and not just because of the reveals or twists.
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#30 Bread_or_Decide
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I'd rather have a really tough boss to beat

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Another FPS with horrible boss battle syndrome. Ugh. How was anyone okay with that final battle?
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The amount of effort, storytelling, and downright brilliant pacing for it's ending, truly made all endings of games I played before simply blah in comparison, basically ruining them because they lack the polish infinite's had.

 

I have never seen a game have such an ending that made you basically wonder SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL just happened, and forced yourself to google it.

I played Bioshock 1, never played 2, but this game makes me wanna play the previous games, it;s brilliant.

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[QUOTE="vanadiel242424"]

I have never seen a game have such an ending that made you basically wonder SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL just happened, and forced yourself to google it.

Lucianu

Doesn't sound like a good ending to me. If it was that vague that you had to google what the hell happened, the f*ck kind of ending is that?

Oh well, i gotta play the game and see for my self wen the time comes.

Thing is... if you pay very close attention to everything in the game, you can figure it out yourself.... but on your first play through you are bound to miss some stuff, hence the reason for googling after the credits roll.

On your 2nd playthrough, things that are said and things that happen that didn't seem to really mean anything are suddenly clear. Again, it's not a game for neanderthals that only play CoD.

I would compare Bioshock Infinite to a film like The Sixth Sense.... only Bioshock is more complicated. You can watch The Sixth Sense and not pick up on a lot of things, that are very clear to you, once you know the end.

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My favorite ending besides MGS4 is DEADLY PREMONITION. Now that's a mystery that kept me guessing until the very end. Great ending and not just because of the reveals or twists. Bread_or_Decide
Don't get me wrong I have tons of affection for Deadly Premonition - played through the single setting with a few bros, watched the entire GB longplay, but the game absolutely loses the plot in the end, in possibly the worst (or arguably the best) way possible, the Red World stuff, the 'Ulllltimate Poooower', it was like Swery finally decided '**** it, it needs to be as cataclysmic-ly Anime stupid possible' in that last fourty minutes. Which really sucked as things escalated from the fantastic Clocktower fight to FK Gaben turning into giant hellspawn that Zack fights in demon hell. In a sense it was an exposition dump just like Infinite, hell some of the character revelations and logic spins fit. That being said I didn't like MGS4's either (Mt Snakemore, more Johnny, the wedding scene, big boss is back guys, what a wacky thing that was snake is still being snake' , but I have a lot of problems with that game in general. On the topic of Japanese I think Catherine had a fairly excellent ending and final chapter, particularly how all the alternate endings worked out.
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#34 ShoulderOfOrion
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Forcing yourself to look for alternative sources to try and understand what happened isn't good storytelling.

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#35 fadersdream
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I liked the after the credit bit.

They beat Schroedinger's cat to death though.

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#36 Bread_or_Decide
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Also one of its twist was already done in Infamous.
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Also one of its twist was already done in Infamous. Bread_or_Decide

  Which actually KEPT IT AS a twist for the end, instead of heavily hint it directly or indirectly numerous times in.

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Agreed, Bioshock Infinite was the first game in awhile where I actually cared about the story and thought the ending was good. To The Moon was the one prior to it but that game was essentially a visual novel

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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] Right YES FINALLY! That is fantastic! You felt the same way I felt now I'm not alone anymore! ::dances with starjet::

Heh. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the game, but I felt that the story is not as mind blowingly special as people made it out to be. When it ended, I just thought "hey, this was a pretty cool game" and that was that. I collected all the voxphones on my first playthrough itself, so I now have no reason to play it again either. Bioshock Infinite is good, but it isn't one of a kind or as mindblowing as people make it out to be. If someone does feel that, that just means they haven't played very many story driven games.
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#40 Peredith
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[QUOTE="Peredith"]

[QUOTE="vanadiel242424"]

I have never seen a game have such an ending that made you basically wonder SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL just happened, and forced yourself to google it.

seanmcloughlin

 

Only if you weren't paying attention to the rest of the game. I saw the "twist" coming from miles away.

I'm sure you saw some of it coming as it's a basic thing to happen with time trvale stories, but I doubt you saw every part of it coming. 

  • Booker mentioning Anna numerous times
  • Booker has AD on hand
  • Comstock is sterile
  • Booker was a massive racist
  • Multi Universes

It wasn't rocket science :?

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I agree, after I finished it I didn't play anything else for 4 days. Literally. Everything else seemed boring or crap in comparison. Same thing happened after I played Dark Souls the first time

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The game isn't anywhere as good as SS2 or even the original Bioshock.
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#43 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="vanadiel242424"]

I have never seen a game have such an ending that made you basically wonder SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL just happened, and forced yourself to google it.

Peredith

 

Only if you weren't paying attention to the rest of the game. I saw the "twist" coming from miles away.

I was actually ashamed of myself during my second play through that I didn't see it coming after all the allusions and subtle hints that are given.
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[QUOTE="vanadiel242424"]

I have never seen a game have such an ending that made you basically wonder SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL just happened, and forced yourself to google it.

Lucianu

Doesn't sound like a good ending to me. If it was that vague that you had to google what the hell happened, the f*ck kind of ending is that? 

Oh well, i gotta play the game and see for my self wen the time comes.  

 

I completely understood the ending. There were tons of hints and references throughout the game. Really well done by Irrational.
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[QUOTE="vanadiel242424"]

I have never seen a game have such an ending that made you basically wonder SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL just happened, and forced yourself to google it.

Peredith

 

Only if you weren't paying attention to the rest of the game. I saw the "twist" coming from miles away.

I'm sure you saw some of it coming as it's a basic thing to happen with time trvale stories, but I doubt you saw every part of it coming. 

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[QUOTE="starjet905"]As someone who's been exposed a lot to certain Japanese media where this kinda multi-dimensional storylines are common, I didn't really feel that Bioshock Infinite was anything special at all. I have a feeling that people rate it highly for the multi-dimension thing and What The F*CK? factor alone.Peredith

People need to read more books. Someone even said Bioshock Infinites storytelling was legendary :lol: I know the majority of stories in games are fvcking terrible, and we should applaud good stories, but come the fvck on people.

comparing books to videogame stories is fvckin dumb anyway. A medium where it's ALL about story, plot, characters and narrative vs. a medium where you are given actual control of a character and still try to have a good story written around them are two completely opposite things.

Of course books have better stories and writing, that's what books are for. Stop trying to sound smart and above everything

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#47 Lucianu
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I completely understood the ending. There were tons of hints and references throughout the game. Really well done by Irrational.Frostbite24

Yeah, i understood that it's all subjective and based on how much you pay attention.

To bad i can't f*cking play it yet. Damn..  

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#48 mems_1224
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sweet blog bro
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I found the ending to be somewhat dissapointing. The ideas there were great, but the pacing was completely wrong and caused those ideas to lose a lot of it's power.

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#50 Magescrew
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Nothing beats Mass Effect 2's ending. The sequence from the Omega 4 Relay until the Reapers fire up their engines heading to the Milky Way is godlike.