Biggest flop in system wars history?

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#401 soiguessialive
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[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]if you remember well enoughDaikatanawas the biggest flop in system wars history, that game had a big amount of hype...but was glitchy and buggy and all around no funPanzer_Zwei
How can Daikatana be the biggest flop in System Wars history if System Wars didn't even existed yet when it flopped? :|

I agree

It still is the biggest flop in history

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#402 FusionApex
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TP, daikatana, KZ, and Brute Force.
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#403 mlbslugger86
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[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]if you remember well enoughDaikatanawas the biggest flop in system wars history, that game had a big amount of hype...but was glitchy and buggy and all around no funPanzer_Zwei
How can Daikatana be the biggest flop in System Wars history if System Wars didn't even existed yet when it flopped? :|

im not saying system wars, and if im not mistaken system wars started when the ps1 went against the n64, im saying of all time, outside of gamespot.

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#404 hurmatps3
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Why is evreyone picking on lair?
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#405 hurmatps3
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You forgot Shenmue and the biggest of them all... KILLZONETargetDog

Killzone was not the biggest flop

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#406 hurmatps3
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I would add manhunt to the list.
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#407 cyprus646
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Why is evreyone picking on lair?hurmatps3
Because it was hyped AAA - AA by alot of cow's and a gears killer and it flopped REALLY hard with a 4.5.
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#408 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Lair. Not only did it fail to meet the hype, it scored abominably LOW. I mean a 4.5? This is a two fold flop.
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#409 Zeliard9
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[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]if you remember well enoughDaikatanawas the biggest flop in system wars history, that game had a big amount of hype...but was glitchy and buggy and all around no funsoiguessialive

How can Daikatana be the biggest flop in System Wars history if System Wars didn't even existed yet when it flopped? :|

I agree

It still is the biggest flop in history

No, it isn't. What are we even defining as a flop? Nobody thought Daikatana would be good when it got close to release. NOBODY. How does a game flop when nobody thinks it's going to be any good? It doesn't. I don't think people know what they're talking about. They just heard of this Daikatana game that was a complete disaster, so they figure it must've been a flop and that's why it was such a mess.

But the truth is that the quality of the final product at release didn't have all that much to do with that whole controversy. Like someone said, people saw the writing on the wall long before. Daikatana was running on the Quake 2 engine at the time of its release when games were already running on the Quake 3 engine a year before that. The only hype for it came from John Romero.

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#410 BatmanBegins24
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Zelda TP was the biggest in my opinion.Lair flopped by the biggest amount but Zelda TP was being hyped as one of the greatest games of all time.When it flopped,it was epic.There were even death threats!

And i'm actually one of the few people that agree with gamespot's Zelda review.

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#411 yoshi-lnex
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Lair, hyped aaa, got a 4.5....
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#412 mastersword007
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erm...since when is 8.8/8.9 a flop....
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#413 waza000
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that list stinks ... don't put "history" of it's no more than 1 year old

zelda TP is the biggest flop game THAT I PLAYED ... but lair looks like a god damn flop, really intense, i won't play that one

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#414 BudgetMessiah
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It's obviously Daikatana, as the biggest flop in gaming history, though I'm not sure if SW existed back then.

The poll is biased because most SW posters were too busy watching Sesame Street to remember what a Daikatana was.

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#415 Codename33
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Before Lair, it was Daikatana. But now, Lair has scored even lower than Daikatana, so it wins.
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#416 Tylendal
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Zelda TP was the biggest in my opinion.Lair flopped by the biggest amount but Zelda TP was being hyped as one of the greatest games of all time.When it flopped,it was epic.There were even death threats!

And i'm actually one of the few people that agree with gamespot's Zelda review.

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One problem. Lair was a horrible game. Twilight Princess was an amazing game that was given a bad review by a single site.

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#417 Prid3r
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In that list , Lair . But KZ is the biggest flop of all time , KZ2 might beat it .
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#418 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="LegendofNerd"]Lair. Without a doubt.Carmilla31
MGS3 went from a AAA franchise, last game was a 9.6, to a AA. Blue Dragon was made from the creator of Final Fantasy and thought as a 'Square killer.' Metroid 3 went from a AAA franchise to AA like MGS3. Zelda was a AAA-AAAA franchise and bombed at a AA. I actually think Lair is the least flop of all of those considering Factor 5 never made a sure fire hit in the past.

Not really. majora's mask got 8.3 and foursword adventures got 8.0. TP isn't the lowest scoring zelda game on GS.
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#419 Shinobishyguy
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Lair. Not only did it fail to meet the hype, it scored abominably LOW. I mean a 4.5? This is a two fold flop.AdobeArtist
yeah...I mean games like TP and MGS3 flopped...but they were still great games. Lair flopped and was a bad game at the same time.

Although if you're talking about the biggest flop in terms of the reaction the SW got...nothing can be the chaos that occurred the night of the TP review

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#420 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]Lair. Not only did it fail to meet the hype, it scored abominably LOW. I mean a 4.5? This is a two fold flop.Shinobishyguy

yeah...I mean games like TP and MGS3 flopped...but they were still great games. Lair flopped and was a bad game at the same time.

Although if you're talking about the biggest flop in terms of the reaction the SW got...nothing can be the chaos that occurred the night of the TP review

Granted there was alot of pandemonium surrounding the Zelda review, crowd reaction is generally subjective, as it's usually the select fanatics who are the most vocal and get the most attention. Whereas scores leave no ambiguity and so are the only practical standard we go by for definition of a flop. It's actually a rule here in SW.