Battlefield 3 Reuses Props From Bad Company 2

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[QUOTE="USBxDVD"]

It shows DICE's lack of effort to create new props for one of their biggest releases in history. "Not enough resources? Just reuse things from old games. We got people to defend us. Til no end."

StrongDeadlift

Are you seriously implying 6 feeble and insignificant architectures that look similiar to the ones in BC2 = Lazy developers? Dam bro....

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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] look at MW3's metacritic user score, and then look at its reception on these boards. ....:lol: WiiMan21

You mean the metacritic user score that all the 12 year old Battlefield fanboys were robotically programmed to fill out 1.0 reviews DAY ONE when the game came out? ;)

God Battlefield fanboys are the saddest body of individuals I have ever encountered in the gaming community. Biggest hippocrites ever.

Battlefield fanboys are dismissing this, yet this EXACT same topic was a HUGE discussion yesterday about MW3 doing the same thing, and they were laughing about it. Now, just one day later, when BF3 does it, they dont care :lol:

BF3 fanboys also said that MW2 and Blackops only got good metacritic reviews because they bribed reviewers, yet when it came out that EA was doing the same, they said "hey, we cant blame them" :roll:

Also, ironically, they say that CoD is nothing but COD kiddies, yet they display WAY more childish behavior than any COD player ive encountered.

Thanks for ignroing my responses, the CoD fans are much MUCH worse than the battlefield fans, I don't even understand why you would even come close to thinking that.WiiMan21

**** YOU **** BF3 SCORED THE SAME AS YOUR **** MW3 YOU WERE SAYING BF3 WAS GOING TO SCORE 7.5 NOOBcoldsteel321

[QUOTE="WiiMan21"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

You mean the metacritic user score that all the 12 year old Battlefield fanboys were robotically programmed to fill out 1.0 reviews DAY ONE when the game came out? ;)

God Battlefield fanboys are the saddest body of individuals I have ever encountered in the gaming community. Biggest hippocrites ever.

Battlefield fanboys are dismissing this, yet this EXACT same topic was a HUGE discussion yesterday about MW3 doing the same thing, and they were laughing about it. Now, just one day later, when BF3 does it, they dont care :lol:

BF3 fanboys also said that MW2 and Blackops only got good metacritic reviews because they bribed reviewers, yet when it came out that EA was doing the same, they said "hey, we cant blame them" :roll:

Also, ironically, they say that CoD is nothing but COD kiddies, yet they display WAY more childish behavior than any COD player ive encountered.

StrongDeadlift

Are you joking? I know a ton of people, myself included that was just completely let down by MW3. Sure I expected BF3 to be better from the get go being I played all of the BF games and all of the CoD games, but MW3 has literally not excuse to be as copy and pasted as much as it was.

Difference being that there will be people there to defend a game, whether it has a major fan base or not. When it comes to battlefield however it's different, they don't get a game every year like CoD. Fan boys generally are not hypocrites, but rather just silly being that it's dumb to argue about reviews (which is one persons opinion, not your own), or sales (Which doesn't always indicate a good game, see CoD or some Wii titles). If you don't mean to argue I apologize, your posts do seem to bash BF3 a bit, amongst fans of the game, and if you're not attempting to argue don't go about talking games in such a way.

**** YOU **** BF3 SCORED THE SAME AS YOUR **** MW3 YOU WERE SAYING BF3 WAS GOING TO SCORE 7.5 NOOBcoldsteel321

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] look at MW3's metacritic user score, and then look at its reception on these boards. ....:lol: StrongDeadlift

You mean the metacritic user score that all the 12 year old Battlefield fanboys were robotically programmed to fill out 1.0 reviews DAY ONE when the game came out? ;)

God Battlefield fanboys are the saddest body of individuals I have ever encountered in the gaming community. Biggest hippocrites ever.

Battlefield fanboys are dismissing this, yet this EXACT same topic was a HUGE discussion yesterday about MW3 doing the same thing, and they were laughing about it. Now, just one day later, when BF3 does it, they dont care :lol:

BF3 fanboys also said that MW2 and Blackops only got good metacritic reviews because they bribed reviewers, yet when it came out that EA was doing the same, they said "hey, we cant blame them" :roll:

Also, ironically, they say that CoD is nothing but COD kiddies, yet they display WAY more childish behavior than any COD player ive encountered.

Who cares as long as most get blown up.:P

I guess Majoras Mask is a completely FAIL game then...and no it isnt ;).

Why is that a big deal? Devs do this often.

When I first played Gears of War, one of the first things I noticed was that so many objects were reused in Unreal Tournament III. Epic is a lazy dev! :o

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="USBxDVD"]

Not saying Im surprised. Its expected from DICE. Even with this evidence, many of you will defend BF3 till no end. What are your opinions on this?

USBxDVD

See what I mean people? Defend til no end.

and what is MW3? ctrl A ctrl C ctrl V

at least the transition from BC 2 and Battlefield three was more reserved when they decided to copy and paste.

Dead-Memories

Uninformed people like you make me sick. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get an FPS shooter running at 60FPS with no screen tearing or framerate problems? Battlefield struggles to hold up a 30FPS framerate and is no where near as addictive or as high quality as COD4 let alone MW3. It also has screen tearing everywhere, EVERYWHERE. COD will continue to trounce Battlefield in sales while EA does it's best to snatch the left over scraps. Anyone that talks bad about COD is so freaking stupid, from a technical perspective at least. Go play screen tear Battletear 3 that chugs along.

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

and what is MW3? ctrl A ctrl C ctrl V

at least the transition from BC 2 and Battlefield three was more reserved when they decided to copy and paste.

Headpopper333

Uninformed people like you make me sick. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get an FPS shooter running at 60FPS with no screen tearing or framerate problems? Battlefield struggles to hold up a 30FPS framerate and is no where near as addictive or as high quality as COD4 let alone MW3. It also has screen tearing everywhere, EVERYWHERE. COD will continue to trounce Battlefield in sales while EA does it's best to snatch the left over scraps. Anyone that talks bad about COD is so freaking stupid, from a technical perspective at least. Go play screen tear Battletear 3 that chugs along.

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

and what is MW3? ctrl A ctrl C ctrl V

at least the transition from BC 2 and Battlefield three was more reserved when they decided to copy and paste.

Headpopper333

Uninformed people like you make me sick. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get an FPS shooter running at 60FPS with no screen tearing or framerate problems? Battlefield struggles to hold up a 30FPS framerate and is no where near as addictive or as high quality as COD4 let alone MW3. It also has screen tearing everywhere, EVERYWHERE. COD will continue to trounce Battlefield in sales while EA does it's best to snatch the left over scraps. Anyone that talks bad about COD is so freaking stupid, from a technical perspective at least. Go play screen tear Battletear 3 that chugs along.

Edit: see user above for more info, and if you're playing BF3 on consoles it's completely different than BF3 on PC.

If you play CoD on PC, you won't get as much as a change as you would with BF on the PC.

You're absolutely right. They did a terrible thing and are terrible human beings. Their game is now garbage. Forget the gameplay, they used identical buildings. Wtf man. That's just going too far. DICE is doomed confirmed. :roll:

Big **** deal mate? I don't see the problem here.

I bet most of you who have no problem with this were crapping all over Call of Duty when MW3 reused a building from MW1. Double standards much? It's only bad when CoD does it, amirite?

i think this debate is stupid. who cares about reused models for basic buildings. it doesnt matter. i recall in CoD: WaW, there was a map that had the same building as the nazi zombies building. i noticed it, and i didnt care. if you care about recycled building designs while completely disregarding the massive gameplay updates BF3 had, then you really need to get your priorities straight.

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="anshul89"]

It's still miles better than Call of Duty.

WiiMan21

Thats' valid point if dice reuse same propes them buying a expensivepc soley for that reasons irrelevant since we have played rehash on new engine.

Looks back; Medal honour new engine same stuff with same content, while this was relevent at time becuase no body was talking about grpahic whor!@# so yeah.

So now cats out of bag nothings really changed.

Not saying Im surprised. Its expected from DICE. Even with this evidence, many of you will defend BF3 till no end. What are your opinions on this?

USBxDVD

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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] Translated: "I have no comeback so I will just say this instead".el3m2tigre

It shows DICE's lack of effort to create new props for one of their biggest releases in history. "Not enough resources? Just reuse things from old games. We got people to defend us. Til no end."

Are you seriously implying 6 feeble and insignificant architectures that look similiar to the ones in BC2 = Lazy developers? Dam bro....

Its called a troll for a reason. Nobody would actually make this argument against a game. Every single game sequel does this, it saves time, money and resources.

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="USBxDVD"]

It shows DICE's lack of effort to create new props for one of their biggest releases in history. "Not enough resources? Just reuse things from old games. We got people to defend us. Til no end."

bri360

Are you seriously implying 6 feeble and insignificant architectures that look similiar to the ones in BC2 = Lazy developers? Dam bro....

Its called a troll for a reason. Nobody would actually make this argument against a game. Every single game sequel does this, it saves time, money and resources.

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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

Are you seriously implying 6 feeble and insignificant architectures that look similiar to the ones in BC2 = Lazy developers? Dam bro....

dotWithShoes

Its called a troll for a reason. Nobody would actually make this argument against a game. Every single game sequel does this, it saves time, money and resources.

BF3 recreated good models in a brand new engine?

The humanity!

Well, I must say i'm a little suprise... as a BF series fan, but then again... other games do the same thing... I guess Dev are geting lazy and cuting corners... Oh well...

Why shouldnt they? A barrel, a wall, a milk carton still all look the same no matter what engine theyre running. Most developers have a certain style when it comes to modeling so its going to be similar anyway. Look at Valve and the similarities between all their Source games.

Not saying Im surprised. Its expected from DICE. Even with this evidence, many of you will defend BF3 till no end. What are your opinions on this?

USBxDVD

MW.... . ...... .. . .. ..... ......... ... ...blows?

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and what is MW3? ctrl A ctrl C ctrl V

at least the transition from BC 2 and Battlefield three was more reserved when they decided to copy and paste.

Headpopper333

Uninformed people like you make me sick. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get an FPS shooter running at 60FPS with no screen tearing or framerate problems? Battlefield struggles to hold up a 30FPS framerate and is no where near as addictive or as high quality as COD4 let alone MW3. It also has screen tearing everywhere, EVERYWHERE. COD will continue to trounce Battlefield in sales while EA does it's best to snatch the left over scraps. Anyone that talks bad about COD is so freaking stupid, from a technical perspective at least. Go play screen tear Battletear 3 that chugs along.

Screentearing? I dont suffer from any screen tearing also im running the game at about 70FPS (Just FYI that 10FPS higher then MW3s maxfps. And yea also i got 90 FOV what have MW3 got? 60?) And iagree on CoD4 being a high quality game (so was BF2) but MW3 is just copy-paste.

And btw doesnt MW3 have P2P servers? Yea shure that worked great in MW2!

(Also FYI i have played BF/CoD since the first games and yea it gone downhill since CoD4 which was amazing the games after that was pretty much "meh" and MW3 is just silly hopefully they can fix the CoD series in the future have been waiting for a new amazing CoD but since WaW i have been dissapointed everytime.)

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

and what is MW3? ctrl A ctrl C ctrl V

at least the transition from BC 2 and Battlefield three was more reserved when they decided to copy and paste.

Headpopper333

Uninformed people like you make me sick. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get an FPS shooter running at 60FPS with no screen tearing or framerate problems? Battlefield struggles to hold up a 30FPS framerate and is no where near as addictive or as high quality as COD4 let alone MW3. It also has screen tearing everywhere, EVERYWHERE. COD will continue to trounce Battlefield in sales while EA does it's best to snatch the left over scraps. Anyone that talks bad about COD is so freaking stupid, from a technical perspective at least. Go play screen tear Battletear 3 that chugs along.

And your point TC, is?

Lots og games do that. Games aren't going to build an entirely new engine with all new proprs and features with every single iteration. Battlefield 3 came out less then 2 years after Bad Company 2, using an improved version of their engine. It doesn't keep the game from getting great scores, and its not like they used those same 5 damn buildings they had in Bad Company 2.

Besides, MW3, Uncharted 3, and lots of other games did that, I don't see you ragging on them. Double standards much?

And your point TC, is?

Lots og games do that. Games aren't going to build an entirely new engine with all new proprs and features with every single iteration. Battlefield 3 came out less then 2 years after Bad Company 2, using an improved version of their engine. It doesn't keep the game from getting great scores, and its not like they used those same 5 damn buildings they had in Bad Company 2.

Besides, MW3, Uncharted 3, and lots of other games did that, I don't see you ragging on them. Double standards much?

SPYDER0416

what is the point of spending time, money on a new one? Ravensmash

You don't live in a US city, do you.:D

Dark Souls used a whole bunch of sound and visual stuff from Demon's Souls. Does it suck? Nope...

And not a single **** was given that day.

It's still miles better than Call of Duty.

anshul89

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and what is MW3? ctrl A ctrl C ctrl V

at least the transition from BC 2 and Battlefield three was more reserved when they decided to copy and paste.

ocstew

Uninformed people like you make me sick. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get an FPS shooter running at 60FPS with no screen tearing or framerate problems? Battlefield struggles to hold up a 30FPS framerate and is no where near as addictive or as high quality as COD4 let alone MW3. It also has screen tearing everywhere, EVERYWHERE. COD will continue to trounce Battlefield in sales while EA does it's best to snatch the left over scraps. Anyone that talks bad about COD is so freaking stupid, from a technical perspective at least. Go play screen tear Battletear 3 that chugs along.

COD4 for one looks fantastic. Sure it's not graphics king but crap?

I heard they copied the mouse controls from BF2 along with the keys WSAD for movement......

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It's still miles better than Call of Duty.

FPSfan1985

CoD is the Paris Hilton of gaming now days. She's popular because...she's popular.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]i don't get it. same building structure. it's not like the real world isn't full of similar-looking buildings. and some of those (most of those) make for great positioning elements. but then again, when you said this: [QUOTE="USBxDVD"]

many of you will defend BF3 till no end

USBxDVD

The normal response would be "Yeah, DICE should have made new props.", "I guess they were too lazy or didnt have enough resources to make new props that were just as good as the ones they reused.", "Yeah it sucks they reused props, but its not that bad."

Instead we have responses like "So what...?", "MW3 did too!", "I dont care." If you arent smart enough to realize it, those are the responses of a fanboy. Rejecting all forms of criticism and redirecting it at something else.

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

and what is MW3? ctrl A ctrl C ctrl V

at least the transition from BC 2 and Battlefield three was more reserved when they decided to copy and paste.

Headpopper333

Uninformed people like you make me sick. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get an FPS shooter running at 60FPS with no screen tearing or framerate problems? Battlefield struggles to hold up a 30FPS framerate and is no where near as addictive or as high quality as COD4 let alone MW3. It also has screen tearing everywhere, EVERYWHERE. COD will continue to trounce Battlefield in sales while EA does it's best to snatch the left over scraps. Anyone that talks bad about COD is so freaking stupid, from a technical perspective at least. Go play screen tear Battletear 3 that chugs along.