B..b..but 60 FPS doesn't matter! - Halo MC Collection

IGN just posted a first look at Halo Combat Anniversary in the Halo Master Chief collection on the Xbox One at 1080p60. As a fan of Halo who has probably played the game over 20 times through, this footage makes me extremely excited.

This is what Halo CE looks like with the Combat Anniversary HD graphics upgrade and at 1080p60.

Those who have played Halo for years can instantly see how much more fluid the combat is and how much better the game looks to play overall. It makes such a difference in the feel of a game. Action feels quicker, aiming is easier and more precise, and the whole game feels even more polished than ever.

The jump to 1080p60 for the Halo series is huge and extremely appreciated. Too bad they couldn't get Halo 2 Combat Anniversary at 1080p60 and had to settle for sub 1080 to keep that 60fps. Oh well, Halo 1, 3, and 4 are all 1080p60.

How can anyone see the game if it's above 30 fps? Everyone knows the human eye is designed for 24-30 cinematic fps.

0/10, would not buy.

60 is not "cinematic"

From now on all games should be at a nice and cinematic 480p and 24 fps.

Never could tell a difference unless I was using a mouse

@millerlight89: gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

man that looks sexy. the old graphics hold up surprisingly well.

Want!

Those aren't old graphics. Those are from the Combat Anniversary back on the 360. It used a very modern renderer and a lot of modern lighting. At 1080p all of that detail is going to come through a lot better.

"Frame rate doesn't matter" said no Halo fan ever after playing this.

things don't matter to the console word only when they can't have it

30fps just feels right . Try harder .

Yeah, Ryan Maccaffrey is a very dishonest journalist imo. He's just a megaphone for everything Xbox. First the human eye can't spot the difference between 900p and 1080p, now it's the most important thing ever.

I mean it's how IGN is structured overall, with fanboys covering each platform, so it's not just him of course.

You had me at Halo. Please take my credit card number already!!!!

@Sushiglutton: Not sure where you're getting that. I'm the one claiming 60 fps makes a difference, just using IGN's video as proof.

He writes 1080p/60fps in the headline and the text and even say: "Set your IGN video player to 1080p and enjoy!". What is he going on about if it's something the human eye can't see (as he has claimed before)?

It's because this is a marketing piece and not journalism.

oh, i thought the old multiplayer maps were using the regular graphics.

Most game journalist don't know what the hell they are talking about, especially when it comes to the more technical aspects of gaming. I don't even listen to them 99% of the time, just let the games speak for themselves.

Just the campaign though; the multiplayer -- which is the most important -- is still 1080p60.

Looking good. wish there was a CE.

Well they are, but the footage shown here was all from the campaign.

More convincing video

343i is ruining the fantastic cinematic experience Bungie made

I think some games can go without it, easily, while others need to be 60fps. For example playing aliens isolation at 30 fps is perfectly fine for me. It's a slow moving game, a game like halo with all the explosions and particles flying around 60fps looks heavenly.

I might as well get rid of all my other games once this drops. It's the ultimate nostalgic package.. I can not wait!

MCC goodness!!!

Also it probably would have been better in letterbox format.

I think you watched a different video than me. Link you posted shows multiplayer at the 1:00 mark.

Would be interesting if a CS/SF torunament was arranged where one player saw his screen at 30fps and the other at 60fps. Everyone played eachother twice, once with framerate benefit and once without.

I wonder what percentage the 60fps players would win?

@Sushiglutton: i don't think you understand the major advantages the 60 FPS player will have over the 30 FPS.

Ehh of course not, I'm no elite player. That's why I think it would be interesting to do this test to see how a framerate difference translates into actual results.

@Sushiglutton: Well the variable would always be the skill of the player. Honestly the best way of seeing the difference is finding those 60 FPS vs 30 FPS gifs or take that video comparison quiz that was on SW's on last week.

That's why everyone should play eachother twice as I explained ;)

@Sushiglutton: That's still a variable... Just because the same guys are playing against each other doesn't mean that they'll be doing the same thing they did last game.

Other than Halo 2's multiplayer i can't believe people are exited to play what they've played hundreds of times before.

Of course, this is true for all kinds tests. To counter you need a large enough sample size to mimize the effects of such things on the result.

I feel like we are getting slightly off the subject now though :)

OMG LOOK THIS VIDEO. 60FPS. SO SMOOTH AND GOOD. FUCKING BEST

the golden years of halo muitplayer..can't wait.

i think its a good topic tbh and this is a good sub-topic. yeah the detail of the experimental method aside - but let's just assume that we've got infinite resource to test the hypothesis, it would be interesting to see if 60 fps translates into more when going against a 30 fps player. i agree with Irish of course that the player's skill should be the key contributor to performance, however at 60 fps would that performance be enhanced compared to 30? i think the answer's an undeniable maybe.

ah this is what it's all about, isn't it guys? simulating discussion.

Yeah it looks great doesn't it... Nov 11th can't come soon enough!!!

I prefer my games more cinematic, thank you very much.

This makes me wet.

Forza Horizon 2 and now Halo Collection, great time to be a xbox one owner.

Hahaha, yeah that sounds like typical IGN

But hey, Ubisoft is doing it too. First they hype up Watch Dogs graphics... than it doesn't matter anymore. First they throw away console parity (exclusive content for PS, ...) than they say they suddenly do want console parity.

Sounds like a lot of businesses these days. Hope people are smart enough to see through all that.

In other words you're spending whatever this costs for NOSTALGIA purposes only.

@CrownKingArthur: I came here to banter at other systems. Not to discuss at a proper manner! *shudders*

That looks smooth and clean!

My only complaint.... They need to update the most known map in the whole series. Blood gulch? Red vs Blue.

I wonder why they didn't?

Also people arguing for 30 fps. When on your screen you're still shooting at someone at 30 fps in game.. yet you're already dead by the 60+ fps guy. Your frames just haven't caught up yet. If there's a killcam... Watch what really happened when you died.

@bldgirsh: I know who you are then, Crandidllydoodler.

Well...can't polish a turd.

Halo was and is nothing more than a mediocre bro shooter.

I was going to give up vag.. due to nostalgia I couldn't bring myself to do it.

You better be scared. I suggest you get a dog. :p

The Chief is coming!