Are you a manticore?

@bluestars: 100% honest question, are you on drugs most of the time you post here?

@vfighter:

when you see me make threads about hdmi cables,batteries and how console boxes are stacked on a pallet then be sure the crack pipe has been out

until then i’m the soberest poster on SW

hah

Nothing I have stated contradicts MS placing all their games on PC. The key part is MS.

@vfighter: @bluestars:

LOL right, cows acting like they don't make some of the most mindless drug inducing threads here.

At the moment I only have a Switch (which could be my favourite console of all time), but plan to get an XsX sometime next year.

@Pedro: Older games perhaps, but like xantufrog mentioned MS said all their games were coming to PC (If not they worded it fantastically to sound like that).

Are we really going to say playing Xbox games on the PC is the same as playing them on an actual Xbox?

I have stated before, there isn't an argument being made by me stating MS is not releasing their games on PC now and the future. MS is taking that stance. This is not equal to all developers.

@kingtito: ? Are you trying to say it's worse playing them on a PC, or what's your position with that statement?

PC/Playstation has been my winning combo. Playstation for exclusives and games with friends, PC for everything else.

Nintendo and Xbox haven't been on my radar for a while now, as they haven't released a game that I had to have. If Microsoft does release a game I want in the next 2-3 years with studio acquisitions, I'll just get it on PC and play it however I want, with whatever mods I want.

What I'm saying is in the context of this thread, playing Xbox games on the PC is not the same as playing them on the actual console. So you can't claim to be a manitcore because you play Xbox games on the PC even if you're using an Xbox controller IMO. What I said has nothing to do with performance on any system.

If we're gonna go there, I'll say this. You need an XBL account to play MS games, we have Game Pass and some of us use an Xbox controller and all of this on PC, yes it's really just playing MS games as if we are doing it on Xbox One & Series X/S. The only slight difference is 30fps & 60fps. To sum it up, PC+MS games on it alone with PS4/5 & Nintendo Switch really makes it a manticore.

Sure, you can also go with PS Now on the PC but that's a streaming service. In other words, that's debatable.

Y'all trying to make it sound like I personally defined the mantra for System Wars. These things were carved before I came into the picture in the 2000s. Anyone can make the argument to evolve definitions or SW pillars, we just need a majority to move forward with it.

@Stevo_the_gamer: I mean, you did published it😁

All jest aside. The way I see it, you need XBL to play MS on PC & we have GP as well. I'm going with PC as part of Xbox ecosystem without the hardware in itself and therefore that makes anyone a Manticore with PS4/5 & Nintendo Switch.

So, are you going to change the definition?😎

@Pedro: Why ask me and not Stevo_The_Gamer?

I don't agree with that. You have to own and play it on the systems to be a manticore because all playing on the PC means is that it's a multiplat and playing on an Xbox controller doesn't == the console.

Sorry man but streaming or downloading the game on PC has to be considered the same. You can't have it both ways.

Because it doesn't seem like he cares one way or the other and it looked as though you are proposing a change. Nothing beyond that.

@kingtito: Xbox is the only one who puts all of their games on PC. Xbox has already said PC is an extension of their platform. There's nothing to debate.

That doesn't matter. Playing Xbox games on PC =/= playing on an Xbox console. PC is not an Xbox even if it shares all of it's games.

but can you elaborate on why it's not? Being a Lem is NOT about a specific piece of hardware, nor is being a Cow - does it matter if one user on here is on a PS Vita or PS4 or PS5? No - they are a cow. It's defined by the platform branding more than anything else. Same games, same controller, hooked up to the TV - viola, you have an xbox. Perhaps the best counterpoint I can see is that you don't pay to play online and the PC and console won't have universal cross-play multiplayer - especially where multiplats are concerned. Which would be a fair argument and is a real problem for the integration effort. Ok you convinced me :-P

Hasn't SWs definition of manticore been one that plays on all systems? Not one that plays games from a service associated with a console or what used to be associated with a console since it's now a PC service as well. How would you be a manticore, by SWs, standards if you're playing games on PC in lieu of a console? Is it the software that defines what a manitcore is?

Are we now changing the definition? Serious question cause it's always been my understanding a manticore plays on all systems not on all services.

This although, I am getting a PS5.

If I'm an Xbox fan, but enjoy playing Xbox games on PC, does that not make me an Xbox fan all of a sudden?

1 has nothing to do with the other at least not in your example. If you're talking about a lem then you just need to prefer the Xbox over the other systems on SWs even if in real life you don't really care. Is that what we're saying a manticore is? Someone that likes all systems? If so then I would say most people are manitcores except for the hardcore cows we have here.

Well, I think that's the question being discussed - yes, historically it meant all systems. But it's already fuzzy under that definition because someone playing on a PS Vita is a... ? Cow? Even though they aren't on a PS4? 3DS vs Switch - does it matter? Sheep. So then if you're some combo of those from all of the big 3 and have a PC you'd be a manticore? But now it's complicated for Xbox and PC further.

(I'm only interested from an academic standpoint, BTW - if y'all want us to change it [or not change it] either is fine with me. I'm ok not qualifying as manticore any more. My life will keep on)

Just to be clear, this is not a serious topic for me 😄, just fun to entertain and debate.

To me, the meaning of it has become outdated. Back in the 2000s, consoles and PCs were distinct, they had their own unique libraries. Hardware was different. Consoles and PCs have merged a lot since then. Now that MS treats PC and Xbox as one, what do you call someone who enjoys playing all games? I play good games, doesn't matter what the brand is. To me, that's what the meaning of manticore is, in spirit.

Main system is my X1. Also have a 360, Genesis and PS2 hooked up that have all been used recently. My son bought home a PS4 last year and I haven't even touched it. Haven't played anything Nintendo since my Gamecube died.

I am into yourmamacore

You know its a slow week when this gets past the first page lol.

I'm a manticore and even I can admit that Sony makes the best games.

I game on all platforms. My main platforms is PSnow on PC, PC, Wii U/Wii, GC, Xbox/360 and soon the Series S.

Becoming a PC gamer has made the "console wars" seem silly to me. Not because the PC is more powerful, I just don't care about platforms, exclusivity or generations anymore, games are games, it's not that deep. Seems strange to see how passionate the PS crowd are about these things right now.

Not saying lems are any better, they were just forced to not care about these things. Nintendo gamers do it because it's the Nintendo way, I don't think they'd burst a blood vessel if one of their games was on more than one platform. PS fanboys on YouTube were calling out Sony for "betraying" them when one or two of their games came to the PC. :-O Calm down. I think exclusivity add another layer of enjoyment to the gameplay for them.

Perhaps it's time to update our definition then.

I always thought of cows as being those loyal to the PS brand and not necessarily PS console. That's just what I always thought but my definition could differ from everyone else.

Yeah I'm fine with it as well.

I'm with you there. Something to help pass the time that isn't so serious.

You could be right. It might be time to update the definition.

Something to think about for sure.