are Valve and Blizzard the best American developers ever?

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#51 naval
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They are atleast at the top of my list of best devlopers american or otherwise
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#52 Lazy_Boy88
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no. everything they have got their hands on, save for portal, IMO, has been extremely overated...ninjaxams

Funny I think the exact opposite. Portal is overrated (far more simple than I expected) and the HL1/2 are still the best single player shooter campaigns to date.

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#53 Ballroompirate
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Sorry TC.... Blizzard blows the doors off of everyone else.

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I would say that if they had the same Devs who made Diablo and Starcraft all of whom ether quit or got fired,blizzard is just a big pile of trash as of now.

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#54 RK-Mara
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It's hard to choose between Valve and Black Isle.
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#55 ahmedkandil
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well i personally think valve is better than blizzard...7+ years for starcraft2????? wtf...
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#56 akif22
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i have to agree
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#57 Exile91
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="ninjaxams"]no. everything they have got their hands on, save for portal, IMO, has been extremely overated...ninjaxams
But COD4 isn't...

from a SP standpoint, no...

... did he just compare Half-Life singleplayer to Call of Duty 4 singleplayer? Wow... I've lost all faith in humanity, again.

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#58 mo0ksi
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I would say that this is true. But Monolith, Black Isle, and Lucasarts are pretty good too.
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#59 thrones
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I'm inclined to say Blizzard, followed by Valve. But only because I prefer RTS to FPS.
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#60 Mystic_Legend
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I say Valve, although that it merely personal preference. Both are extraordinary developers.
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#61 Arnalion
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Blizzard is easily the best PC developer IMO.
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#62 ithilgore2006
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Bioware aren't American, they're Canadian. I'd say for American developers, Blizzard, Valve and Retro Studios are tied.
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#63 Drukter
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no. everything they have got their hands on, save for portal, IMO, has been extremely overated...ninjaxams

I find this extremelly hilarious since you have a FF7 avatar...

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#64 AzatiS
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Yeah since Half life had more than 50 awards plus GOTY to almost ALL sites/magazines in planet. Voted as the game of the decade from numerous sites and magazines. Followed by HL2 that was kinda revolutionary (physics and story on FPS genre). We add the counter strike, one of the most well--known MP around the world for so many years , i think Valve deserves a title as one of the best Americans developers ever.

Exactly the same goes for Blizzard. Diablo (THE revolution on this genre) - Diablo 2 (still many playing this) - Starcraft (Still playing this especially in korea) - World of Warcraft ( Best mmorpg ever made - 10Million Sub) - Warcraft 3 (still playing by many). Many GoTy awards and individual awards. One of the best companies as well.

Both companies games , still playing by gamers in proffessional mode for years now. War3 and Counter strike especially.With thousands of $$ per year to the winners.

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#65 espoac
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Valve and Blizzard are great but at the same time they have great publishing partners who are willing to give the studios long, long, long periods of time to make their games. I mean how long until Valve releases episode 3? Nobodies holding their breath, I'm sure. That's why it's a shame that developers who come out with fantastic games every year or every other year don't get much recognition. Insomniac, for example, is setting itself up to release the extremely ambitious RFOM 2 when just last year they released what many consider the best game on PS3.
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Yeah since Half life had more than 50 awards plus GOTY to almost ALL sites/magazines in planet. Voted as the game of the decade from numerous sites and magazines. Followed by HL2 that was kinda revolutionary (physics and story on FPS genre). We add the counter strike, one of the most well--known MP around the world for so many years , i think Valve deserves a title as one of the best Americans developers ever.

Exactly the same goes for Blizzard. Diablo (THE revolution on this genre) - Diablo 2 (still many playing this) - Starcraft (Still playing this especially in korea) - World of Warcraft ( Best mmorpg ever made - 10Million Sub) - Warcraft 3 (still playing by many). Many GoTy awards and individual awards. One of the best companies as well.

Both companies games , still playing by gamers in proffessional mode for years now. War3 and Counter strike especially.With thousands of $$ per year to the winners.

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That is why they are the best
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#67 Hewkii
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I wouldn't say the best ever. best as of this time, yeah. but there are other studios of the past (id, LucasArts) that were just as good in their prime.
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#68 thegoldenpoo
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i love valve, if i ever meet a valve employee i will givem them a big hug :P
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#69 TheSpidren
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Blizzard and Valve are a couple of the best, yes, but I'd say Infinity Ward is rising quickly to their ranks.
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#70 stephant_6
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Gaming (atleast shooters) would be very different,and alot worse if it weren't for Valve. They basically saved the genre.

Blizzard did the same for RTS's and of course MMO's.

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#71 Noldorin2646
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Blizzard and Valve are a couple of the best, yes, but I'd say Infinity Ward is rising quickly to their ranks.TheSpidren

It's funny that CoD:UO, arguably the best installment in the Call of Duty series, wasn't even made by Infinity Ward.

Just an observation, I don't detest Infinity Ward at all, Call of Duty 1 is one of my favorite FPS.

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#72 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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I disagree, I say Valve and ID. Valve makes great strides of what ID set up. Doom made the genre mainstream.
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#73 dkhw
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Gaming (atleast shooters) would be very different,and alot worse if it weren't for Valve. They basically saved the genre.

Blizzard did the same for RTS's and of course MMO's.

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and hack-and-slash RPG. You can still find hundreds playing Diablo 2 right now. It's almost ridiculous.

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#74 hoola
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No. id is the best American developer.
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#75 gasmaskman
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Blizzard is the best, Valve is top 5.

BioWare is #2 though.

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#76 Noldorin2646
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Blizzard is the best, Valve is top 5.

BioWare is #2 though.

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BioWare is Canadian.