Are PC graphics really that superior to the HD consoles?

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Muramasa, Okami, SMG, Darksiders anyone? Darksiders is the reason I'm pursueing a career in Game Art and Animation.

ChubbyGuy40

good for you:) Darksiders is a pretty good looking game imo.. and was alot better than that crappy Dante's inferno :P

Bleh there I go typing stuff wrong. I didn't mean to put Okami but rather Warcraft. I do that a lot. I recently looked over a book with the designs of KZ2's characters in it. The characters obviously were not nearly as detailed as the artist wanted, but that was due to limitations.

oh so your a guy that like's kz's art? that game has amazing artistical prowess and great tech backing it. I hate it when people say brownzone 2 :evil:

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

good for you:) Darksiders is a pretty good looking game imo.. and was alot better than that crappy Dante's inferno :P

theuncharted34

Bleh there I go typing stuff wrong. I didn't mean to put Okami but rather Warcraft. I do that a lot. I recently looked over a book with the designs of KZ2's characters in it. The characters obviously were not nearly as detailed as the artist wanted, but that was due to limitations.

oh so your a guy that like's kz's art? that game has amazing artistical prowess and great tech backing it. I hate it when people say brownzone 2 :evil:

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

good for you:) Darksiders is a pretty good looking game imo.. and was alot better than that crappy Dante's inferno :P

theuncharted34

Bleh there I go typing stuff wrong. I didn't mean to put Okami but rather Warcraft. I do that a lot. I recently looked over a book with the designs of KZ2's characters in it. The characters obviously were not nearly as detailed as the artist wanted, but that was due to limitations.

oh so your a guy that like's kz's art? that game has amazing artistical prowess and great tech backing it. I hate it when people say brownzone 2 :evil:

I LOVE the art style. My family's background in animation and drawing is what made me choose an art degree (my grandfather was hired at Disney. Sadly he got drafted to Vietnam before he could start.)

It's rare for me to find stuff I hate or really just don't like. Halo I find has boring artwork and worse execution. Games like CoD are lifeless and don't really capture any emotion what-so-ever.

EDIT: I do believe though that with Guerilla's talent, it could've been/looked so much better on PC. For consoles KZ3 will probably be the best looking game there is, but that doesn't mean that there isn't flaws. I see flaws in a lot of things pretty easily with that game, but happens in a lot of games and that doesn't stop them from being good. I just think KZ could've been so much more on PC.

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

if we are going by looks, i'd say wind waker.

theuncharted34

The whole argument here is about technical prowess, not artistic design.

he should have specified technical prowess. Instead he said "best looking game" and art always beats tech.

I was going to add RE4 NGC as looking good maybe in an artistic sense (not my artistic sense* though). But, a far more important phone call than posting here came up. He He.

*My artistic sense definitely demands more color as in the Wii games we have.

Ouch.

As far as previous-gen console games look, RE4 for the GC it isn't too bad. In fact, I'm thinking of hooking my kid's NGC back up. I know we have NGC RE4 (or was that the Remake?) lying around somewhere. But as far as looks? Not even looking at the low resolution...... RE4 is one of those games with a bland color palette many here grumbled about. In fact, it makes all the KZ games look like a rainbow.:lol:

Honestly, I don't think there's a lot of previous-gen games that can hustle around current-gen games except perhaps some older PC games which at least have AA and resolution to help them out.

jun_aka_pekto

Resident Evil 4 on the PC looks ok when modded.

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I did a little recording vid of it but youtube always makes the quality crappy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OqixGNTw7c

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While you're at it look up high performance computing. Imagine tapping into that type of processing power no matter where you are or what device you're using.

You guys are missing the big picture totally.

Rikusaki

The best looking game last gen was Doom 3 on the PC.UnrealDelusion

I still have some very old screenshots of me playing Doom3.

^^ get that crap 7 on metacritic version of RE4 outta here. How dare you soil RE4 :evil: it's still not as bad as the iphone versions though :(

^^ get that crap 7 on metacritic version of RE4 outta here. How dare you soil RE4 :evil: it's still not as bad as the iphone versions though :(

theuncharted34

RE4 on the PC was fixed.

They added support for a gamepad and mouse.

They upgraded the graphics way beyond the Gamecube too.

So it's better.

Right now, PC graphics are a lot better than console graphics. Also, graphics will only near their peak when they become photo-realistic and we have a long way to go yet.fabz_95

Exactly, and then theres the fact of getting extremely accurate physics, most explosions/crashes/etc are pre-rendered. These things in real time at 1080p would be EPIC :P

Heres why graphics are superior

First image is NOT modded! The rest are tod and enb mods

GTA IV on the pc has absolutely NO AA at all and it still looks miles better than console versions, furthermore the pc version was a poorly optimised port but it still looks great, I think that says it all

what mod is that

Mods really do make a huge difference in regards to the visuals of a game.

Hell, mods have turned Morrowind from this:

To this:

what mod is that

Robbazking

Heres the link to the GS forum discussing my gta mods

LINK

[QUOTE="Robbazking"]

what mod is that

SPBoss

Heres the link to the GS forum discussing my gta mods

LINK

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

The whole argument here is about technical prowess, not artistic design.

ChubbyGuy40

he should have specified technical prowess. Instead he said "best looking game" and art always beats tech.

No it does not. It's the users preference which is more appealing. You also can't pull off the proper art without the right tech.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Muramasa, Okami, SMG, Darksiders anyone? Darksiders is the reason I'm pursueing a career in Game Art and Animation.

ChubbyGuy40

good for you:) Darksiders is a pretty good looking game imo.. and was alot better than that crappy Dante's inferno :P

Bleh there I go typing stuff wrong. I didn't mean to put Okami but rather Warcraft. I do that a lot. I recently looked over a book with the designs of KZ2's characters in it. The characters obviously were not nearly as detailed as the artist wanted, but that was due to limitations.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]The best looking game last gen was Doom 3 on the PC.Hakkai007

I still have some very old screenshots of me playing Doom3.

Yes. They are. There is no debate to be had here. The PC can run games at 1080p+, at 60+ fps, with tons of technology that isn't even possible on consoles (anisotropic filtering comes to mind immediately).

Hell, a good PC can emulate Wii games and upscale them to HD resolutions. That says something about the capability of its hardware.

^^ get that crap 7 on metacritic version of RE4 outta here. How dare you soil RE4 :evil: it's still not as bad as the iphone versions though :(

theuncharted34