Are jrpgs simply more better than wrpgs this gen?

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#1  Edited By indzman
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NOTABLE JRPG - BLOODBORNE, DARK SOULS 3, NIOH, PERSONA V, FINAL FANTASY XV.NIER AUTOMATA,YALUZA 0 ETC.

NOTABLE WRPG-SKYRIM,THE WITCHER 3, FALLOUT 4 ETC.

I agree completely that current jrpgs are simply more better than current wrpgs.

Well?

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#2 Ant_17
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Uh, yeah. We can add Zelda too if we are adding DS and BB.

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#3 Sam3231
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You might as well add Fallout 4 to WRPG.

I mean unless were operating under the narrative that it wasn't notable.

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#4 rrjim1
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NO, you got to be kidding!

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#5 Tigerbalm
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Yes, but Xbox fanboys will say no unless Phil Japan trip pays off within this decade. They bragged aboit his trip, but call the games and gamers weaboo.

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#6 uninspiredcup
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Skyrim was released, no.

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#7 Howmakewood
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Its sad to see when even Sony fans dont see Horizon being notable, but the japanese list is indeed strong tho FF is questionable, Divinity Original Sin should at least be listed

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#8 Ghosts4ever
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No. they are not.

JRPG games still suck because they are too girly and animish however i see final fantasy 15 is different from typical JRPG.

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#9 indzman
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@ghosts4ever: Thats a welcome change coming from you praising FF XV?

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#10 Sam3231
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Is Yakuza 0 really an RPG?

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Yeah

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I think the more they copy the West, the better they get.

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#14  Edited By appariti0n
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Yes, with the exception of the Witcher 3. But that was developed in Poland, so I dunno if you can classify it as a WRPG.

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I guess so

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#16 Howmakewood
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As we all know GS is the absolute truth, looking at this gen's GOTY's, the west wins

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@iandizion713 said:

I think the more they copy the West, the better they get.

To be fair, the best JRPGs this generation have all been ones that didn't copy the west, from Dark Souls to Fire Emblem to Persona to Bloodborne

@Sam3231 said:

Is Yakuza 0 really an RPG?

Yeah

@Ant_17 said:

Uh, yeah. We can add Zelda too if we are adding DS and BB.

Oh right, BotW qualifies if Yakuza and Fallout do

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#18 StormyJoe
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@indzman: Grammar... learn it.

Wrpgs are better than jrpgs, btw.

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Like both equally.

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#20  Edited By Archangel3371
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More better? lol

Anyway yeah I guess so. I kind of hate trying to pick one over the other because I've played some amazing WRPGs such as Skyrim, The Witcher 3, Fallout 3 and 4, Mass Effect games, and Dragon Age games but my preference overall goes to JRPGs, I've always loved them.

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#21 lamprey263
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While not rreally big on JRPGs, yeah, they have done much better this gen than WRPGs, especially with Mass Effect Andromeda really dropping the ball.

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#22  Edited By cainetao11
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Well none of those are better than the Witcher 3 imo, so guess not. And why isn't Horizon Zero Dawn on the WRPG list?

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#23  Edited By adsparky
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Lately we have gotten a lot of outstanding jrpg and some underrated like the legend of heroes series; but they feel more like a reaction to the great wrpg that we got last gen. But as a fan of rpgs, both western and japanese, these past years have been pretty good for me.

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#24  Edited By Maroxad
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Noteable WRPGs: Divinity: Original Sin, Torment: Tides of Numenera, Pillars of Eternity, Neo Scavanger, Wasteland 2, Witcher 3, Skyrim, Path of Exile, Horizon, Shadowrun Dragonfall and Hong Kong

Upcoming: Mount and Blade 2: Bannerlord, Kingdom Come Deliverance, Divinity: Original Sin 2, Pillars of Eternity 2

I would say WRPGs take the cake.

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#25 DragonfireXZ95
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More better

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#26  Edited By Wizard
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Except Witcher 3 is the best game listed (I haven't played all of them, just speaking on reception, awards, and broad appeal)....idk, less and more top heavy?

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#27 LegatoSkyheart
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I think it's time we just end the whole "WRPG vs JRPG" debate.

There will always be amazing games on both sides and neither of them ever really "died".

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#28 Phazevariance
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I'm playing through Nier now, and while it is an RPG, it's fairly boring in terms of graphics, and the gameplay eventually gets samey. I wouldn't put FF in the 'great' rpg list. If you're going to add FF then you should add Mass Effect for WRPG *shudders*

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#29  Edited By Arach666
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@Maroxad said:

Noteable WRPGs: Divinity: Original Sin, Torment: Tides of Numenera, Pillars of Eternity, Neo Scavanger, Wasteland 2, Witcher 3, Skyrim, Path of Exile, Horizon, Shadowrun Dragonfall and Hong Kong

Upcoming: Mount and Blade 2: Bannerlord, Kingdom Come Deliverance, Divinity: Original Sin 2, Pillars of Eternity 2

I would say WRPGs take the cake.

Really all that needs to be said.

Also UnderRail,only played a bit but so far it's really good.

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@wizard said:

Except Witcher 3 is the best game listed (I haven't played all of them, just speaking on reception, awards, and broad appeal)....idk, less and more top heavy?

That's because he failed to list the best JRPG, which is better than Witcher 3 (not to mention at least two of the JRPGs he did list are better than Witcher 3),

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@cainetao11 said:

Well none of those are better than the Witcher 3 imo, so guess not. And why isn't Horizon Zero Dawn on the WRPG list?

I mean, Zelda is not on the JRPG list either. There are omissions on both sides.

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@charizard1605 said:
@cainetao11 said:

Well none of those are better than the Witcher 3 imo, so guess not. And why isn't Horizon Zero Dawn on the WRPG list?

I mean, Zelda is not on the JRPG list either. There are omissions on both sides.

I cant speak on Zelda because I live in NYC and for some fvcking reason @getyeryayasout can find Switch's in bumbleturd Washington and I cant in the Capital of the world!!!!!!

LOL besides look at who TC is. How wouldn't he say JRPGs are better?

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@cainetao11 said:
@charizard1605 said:
@cainetao11 said:

Well none of those are better than the Witcher 3 imo, so guess not. And why isn't Horizon Zero Dawn on the WRPG list?

I mean, Zelda is not on the JRPG list either. There are omissions on both sides.

I cant speak on Zelda because I live in NYC and for some fvcking reason @getyeryayasout can find Switch's in bumbleturd Washington and I cant in the Capital of the world!!!!!!

LOL besides look at who TC is. How wouldn't he say JRPGs are better?

You want me to try and find some for you in Toronto? I think stock here is slightly more abundant.

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@charizard1605 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@charizard1605 said:
@cainetao11 said:

Well none of those are better than the Witcher 3 imo, so guess not. And why isn't Horizon Zero Dawn on the WRPG list?

I mean, Zelda is not on the JRPG list either. There are omissions on both sides.

I cant speak on Zelda because I live in NYC and for some fvcking reason @getyeryayasout can find Switch's in bumbleturd Washington and I cant in the Capital of the world!!!!!!

LOL besides look at who TC is. How wouldn't he say JRPGs are better?

You want me to try and find some for you in Toronto? I think stock here is slightly more abundant.

YES! Dead serious, dude.

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@cainetao11: yeah dude, I'll start keeping an eye out from next week or so.

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I mean if you like JRPG then this was the year for you but with that being said WRPG's still had a strong if not stronger showing. Honestly for me and granted I only played it once but the Story from the Witcher 3 was so satisfying that I would use that as my current choice of here is how you do story telling, side missions, and story choice consequence right. Only game I played where there was no right or wrong answer in story choices.

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@howmakewood said:

Its sad to see when even Sony fans dont see Horizon being notable, but the japanese list is indeed strong tho FF is questionable, Divinity Original Sin should at least be listed

But I love and enjoy Horizon: Zero Dawn since late February. I actually had more fun with the game as well.

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#39 Howmakewood
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@davillain- said:
@howmakewood said:

Its sad to see when even Sony fans dont see Horizon being notable, but the japanese list is indeed strong tho FF is questionable, Divinity Original Sin should at least be listed

But I love and enjoy Horizon: Zero Dawn since late February. I actually had more fun with the game as well.

was just a poke at tc, nothing against horizon personally

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@getyeryayasout said:
@cainetao11 said:
@charizard1605 said:
@cainetao11 said:

Well none of those are better than the Witcher 3 imo, so guess not. And why isn't Horizon Zero Dawn on the WRPG list?

I mean, Zelda is not on the JRPG list either. There are omissions on both sides.

I cant speak on Zelda because I live in NYC and for some fvcking reason @getyeryayasout can find Switch's in bumbleturd Washington and I cant in the Capital of the world!!!!!!

LOL besides look at who TC is. How wouldn't he say JRPGs are better?

The good stuff is bountiful here in God's Country, USA.

LOL you being there negates that

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Zelda>>>>Horizon.

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@charizard1605 said:

Zelda>>>>Horizon.

....

I cant comment because I havent played Horizon

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#44  Edited By aigis
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Yeah, JRPGS are crushing it, spent way more time there than WRPGS

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@aigis: it doesn't have Mipha. Or any other manner of a fish waifu.

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#46 Wizard
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@charizard1605: I assume you mean he missed Zelda, but which of those other two are better than Witcher 3? Not trying to be hostile, but that's a tall order considering the amount of GoTY Awards W3 racked up.

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@wizard said:

@charizard1605: I assume you mean he missed Zelda, but which of those other two are better than Witcher 3? Not trying to be hostile, but that's a tall order considering the amount of GoTY Awards W3 racked up.

Bloodborne and Persona 5.

To be fair, I don't think Witcher 3 is the best game he listed in the WRPG list either (albeit I need to make it clear that I adore Witcher 3 regardless).

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#48 DocSanchez
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W and J refer to the type not the location otherwise it doesnt matter. A JRPG is, like final fantasy or star ocean, a turn based often four character styled menu driven adventure game. WRPGs are usually more customisable, often more action driven. Dark Souls certainly qualifies as a WRPG. Certainly.

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Yup. Persona 5 came out lol

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#50 Clefdefa
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to me WRPG are quite boring.

i wouldn't count Zelda nor Horizon Zero Dawn nor Fallout 4 as all of them had skill tree just like so many other games which aren't counted as RPG.