Woman impregnated through rape risks 48 hours jail if refusing her rapist to visit her sons

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#1 horgen  Moderator
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Guess the state guys. Come on now, take a guess. It shouldn't be so difficult. Alabama

An Alabama woman claims the same man who raped and impregnated her multiple times as a child has won visitation rights to see their children, forcing her to face her alleged rapist or risk being put behind bars.

The woman, named Jessica, says she felt she “didn't have any options” when her uncle started to climb into her bed at night when she was around 12 or 13 years old. He allegedly impregnated her four times during her teenage years but was never convicted despite DNA evidence, she says. Now, she claims a judge told her she would spend 48 hours in a county jail every time she denied her alleged rapist visitation time with her sons.

When Jessica was 14, she miscarried. At 16, she gave birth to her alleged rapist’s son. At 18, she gave birth to a third child who later died. And at 19, she said she was impregnated a fourth time by her uncle and gave birth to another son.

Her story sparked national attention after the passage of Alabama's new abortion law, which critics say shows how the state is failing to protect survivors of sexual assault. In May, Alabama’s Republican Gov. Kay Ivey signed the most stringent abortion law in the nation — making performing an abortion a felony in nearly all cases unless necessary for the mother's health. The law provides no exception for rape and incest and is set to be enforced starting in November unless challenged by a judge.

Jessica, who asked for her last name to be omitted to protect her sons, said she 's sharing her story to stand behind what she believes is right. "It's been a very long, hard road for me, but it's going to be worth it," Jessica told Birmingham's WIAT-TV. "It may not benefit my case, but somebody in the future will benefit from this," she said.

Alabama state Rep. Juandalynn Givan, a Democrat, said Alabama is one of two states in the nation that does not terminate the rights of a rapist. "I think the Legislature is failing the women of Alabama. The justice system can do no more than what we enact into law," she said. Givan said she is working to pre-file legislation for the next session that would strip rapists of their parental rights in the state of Alabama. Jessica’s case sparked national attention.

Meanwhile, the American Civil Liberties Union and Planned Parenthood have filed a federal lawsuit in a bid to block Alabama's law, claiming it “directly conflicts” with the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision and “more than four decades of Supreme Court precedent affirming its central holding” on abortion rights.

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Apparently DNA evidence wasn't enough to convict him. Sickening, don't you think?

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Alabama.....YIKES!

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@zaryia said:

Alabama.....YIKES!

I'm surprised the marriage was overturned

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#4 minishcapper
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In some cultures, uncle-niece marriage is quite common. Are you some sort of racist?

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Jeez, I was expecting somewhere in the Middle East.

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@minishcapper said:

In some cultures, uncle-niece marriage is quite common. Are you some sort of racist?

I would call that incest.

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@SOedipus said:

Jeez, I was expecting somewhere in the Middle East.

middle south. close enough

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@comp_atkins said:
@SOedipus said:

Jeez, I was expecting somewhere in the Middle East.

middle south. close enough

Yall-Qaeda.

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@comp_atkins said:
@SOedipus said:

Jeez, I was expecting somewhere in the Middle East.

middle south. close enough

I was going to write something along those lines. I figure I’d leave it for an American to state.

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Alabama is the only state in the US I can openly call fascist.

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This makes me so glad the pro-life crowd are getting their way lately. Love the rapist, jail the raped. So much good is coming from all this.

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@Serraph105 said:

This makes me so glad the pro-life crowd are getting their way lately. Love the rapist, jail the raped. So much good is coming from all this.

Hey as long as the libs and "SJW's" are owned, who cares right?

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@SOedipus: Talibama!

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@minishcapper: Which culture is that? Can you please specify?

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Lovely Alabama at it again.

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#18 iambatman7986
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This is the same state where an alleged pedophile almost won a congressional seat. This news, while sad, is not surprising to me at all.

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Pretty much proof positive that the legislation has nothing to do with helping children, but controlling women.

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I'm highly skeptical about many of these sensational posts. Highly skeptical. It's a shame if true, but I've found that the media on both sides tends to embelish things for political points.

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God damn, Alabama

@SOedipus said:

Jeez, I was expecting somewhere in the Middle East.

I know, right!? first thing I was thinking was "Sharia Law" but I guess some first-world members practice it too.

@sonicare said:

I'm highly skeptical about many of these sensational posts. Highly skeptical. It's a shame if true, but I've found that the media on both sides tends to embelish things for political points.

I am not skeptical of the basis of these articles, but I am sure they embellish. Is there an obscure law that says these things? I'm sure there is. And anal sex is still illegal Florida. But something tells me no one is getting thrown in jail in Florida, just like if this women gets a lawyer and says "no" she won't get tossed in jail.

...but then again, Alabama...

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Banjo on my knee yada yada. Blah.

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@DEVILinIRON said:

Banjo on my knee yada yada. Blah.

Hey don't bring banjos into this.

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@sonicare said:

I'm highly skeptical about many of these sensational posts. Highly skeptical. It's a shame if true, but I've found that the media on both sides tends to embelish things for political points.

Alabama and Minnesota doesn't have laws that prevents the rapist from getting paternal rights if a rape leads to pregnancy. Not that it would matter much here anyway as the uncle was not convicted of rape.

The marriage was overturned to incest reasons.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

Alabama is the only state in the US I can openly call fascist.

You may not like what the DEMOCRATICALLY elected officials do in Alabama and you may want to read up on what fascism is because your comment and implicated opinion is closer to being fascist than Alabama is.

With that said that story is just insane, that uncle should have been jailed and the key thrown away and he should never have any rights to see the kids.

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@kadin_kai: look up first-cousin marriage and see for yourself.

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Not going to Alabama any time soon.

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Glad she's keeping the babies, but that's some serious BS from Alabama. The rapist should have no part in their lives.

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@horgen: While at first glance, the story appears to shock the conscious, the actual facts of the case are more interesting to digest. Clearly, the story uses sensationalism and grandstanding to attract attention.

Snopes did an excellent outline of the known facts in the case and highly recommend taking a look and develop your own opinion.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alabama-rape-rapist-visitation/

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Thead title sounds like an SAT question.

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#31 JoshRMeyer
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Getting pregnant 4 times by the same "rapist"? Seems a little fishy. Either way, how does this happen with your uncle???

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@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@horgen: While at first glance, the story appears to shock the conscious, the actual facts of the case are more interesting to digest. Clearly, the story uses sensationalism and grandstanding to attract attention.

Snopes did an excellent outline of the known facts in the case and highly recommend taking a look and develop your own opinion.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alabama-rape-rapist-visitation/

When it first broke, finding something like the Snopes article you provided wasn't something I was able to. And your article was written this week.

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Sounds like the premise of a Law and Order: Special Victims Unit episode.

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#34  Edited By Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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@horgen said:
@Stevo_the_gamer said:

@horgen: While at first glance, the story appears to shock the conscious, the actual facts of the case are more interesting to digest. Clearly, the story uses sensationalism and grandstanding to attract attention.

Snopes did an excellent outline of the known facts in the case and highly recommend taking a look and develop your own opinion.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alabama-rape-rapist-visitation/

When it first broke, finding something like the Snopes article you provided wasn't something I was able to. And your article was written this week.

Ah, I missed that caveat on when the thread was created. Still weak journalism though.