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#1 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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https://nypost.com/2019/10/22/proud-boys-members-get-prison-for-brawl-with-antifa-protesters/

Good.

With a president that encourages and incites violence through his worshippers, they deserve all the prison time they get.

Violent Republicans are the biggest domestic terror threat the United States faces.

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#2 blaznwiipspman1
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@Nuck81: they should both get prison time. The antifa protestors as well

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@Nuck81: they should both get prison time. The antifa protestors as well

So.... you're okay with fascism then?

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@drunk_pi said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@Nuck81: they should both get prison time. The antifa protestors as well

So.... you're okay with fascism then?

That's a non-sequitur.

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@Nuck81 said:

https://nypost.com/2019/10/22/proud-boys-members-get-prison-for-brawl-with-antifa-protesters/

Good.

With a president that encourages and incites violence through his worshippers, they deserve all the prison time they get.

Violent Republicans are the biggest domestic terror threat the United States faces.

Pretty crazy but I'm glad you brought that up no right winger would ever admit that they would just cry fake news like their cult leader.

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#6  Edited By R-Gamer
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The Antifa protesters got nothing but they said it was because they couldn't identify them. This is why you try to stay away from leftwing shitholes like portland where somebody may try to bash you over the head with a sock and a lock and if you defend yourself you get 4 years.

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#7  Edited By deactivated-5e9044657a310
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@r-gamer: you seem like a soft bitch

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@r-gamer: I live in Portland. This has never happened to me or anyone I know. Quit being a drama queen.

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@Nuck81 said:

https://nypost.com/2019/10/22/proud-boys-members-get-prison-for-brawl-with-antifa-protesters/

Good.

With a president that encourages and incites violence through his worshippers, they deserve all the prison time they get.

Violent Republicans are the biggest domestic terror threat the United States faces.

Good Riddance.

Also again who thought up the name "Proud Boys" should be jailed like the others.

As to the last one, no the biggest threat is BLM and ANTIFA.

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@Jacanuk said:
@Nuck81 said:

https://nypost.com/2019/10/22/proud-boys-members-get-prison-for-brawl-with-antifa-protesters/

Good.

With a president that encourages and incites violence through his worshippers, they deserve all the prison time they get.

Violent Republicans are the biggest domestic terror threat the United States faces.

Good Riddance.

Also again who thought up the name "Proud Boys" should be jailed like the others.

As to the last one, no the biggest threat is BLM and ANTIFA.

No, they're not. BLM hasn't committed terrorist threats on a mass scale, nor has the organization, as a whole, advocate killing people. Antifa, on the other hand, while having some violent elements, pales in comparison to white supremacist groups who commit the most domestic terror attacks in the U.S.

Dude, why do you eat the Fox narrative? You spout nonsense after nonsense, get fact-checked, yet spout the same nonsense.

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#11 Jacanuk
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@drunk_pi said:
@Jacanuk said:
@Nuck81 said:

https://nypost.com/2019/10/22/proud-boys-members-get-prison-for-brawl-with-antifa-protesters/

Good.

With a president that encourages and incites violence through his worshippers, they deserve all the prison time they get.

Violent Republicans are the biggest domestic terror threat the United States faces.

Good Riddance.

Also again who thought up the name "Proud Boys" should be jailed like the others.

As to the last one, no the biggest threat is BLM and ANTIFA.

No, they're not. BLM hasn't committed terrorist threats on a mass scale, nor has the organization, as a whole, advocate killing people. Antifa, on the other hand, while having some violent elements, pales in comparison to white supremacist groups who commit the most domestic terror attacks in the U.S.

Dude, why do you eat the Fox narrative? You spout nonsense after nonsense, get fact-checked, yet spout the same nonsense.

Actually BLM has, they have not just killed multiple cops but also disrupted normal peoples day and work.

Also, I see you disagree with the intelligence communities in American who have labelled ANTIFA as a domestic terrorist organisation and even several democratic politicians have said as much.

So you may want to educate yourself before accusing me of being dependent "fox narrative" which is laughable considering I don´t even watch Fox.

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@Jacanuk said:
@drunk_pi said:
@Jacanuk said:
@Nuck81 said:

https://nypost.com/2019/10/22/proud-boys-members-get-prison-for-brawl-with-antifa-protesters/

Good.

With a president that encourages and incites violence through his worshippers, they deserve all the prison time they get.

Violent Republicans are the biggest domestic terror threat the United States faces.

Good Riddance.

Also again who thought up the name "Proud Boys" should be jailed like the others.

As to the last one, no the biggest threat is BLM and ANTIFA.

No, they're not. BLM hasn't committed terrorist threats on a mass scale, nor has the organization, as a whole, advocate killing people. Antifa, on the other hand, while having some violent elements, pales in comparison to white supremacist groups who commit the most domestic terror attacks in the U.S.

Dude, why do you eat the Fox narrative? You spout nonsense after nonsense, get fact-checked, yet spout the same nonsense.

Actually BLM has, they have not just killed multiple cops but also disrupted normal peoples day and work.

Also, I see you disagree with the intelligence communities in American who have labelled ANTIFA as a domestic terrorist organisation and even several democratic politicians have said as much.

So you may want to educate yourself before accusing me of being dependent "fox narrative" which is laughable considering I don´t even watch Fox.

Protests aren't terrorist threats and BLM hasn't killed cops, nor have they made it their narrative to kill cops.

FBI says white supremacy is the greater domestic threat.

The facts don't lie but your desperation is certainly showing.

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Protests aren't terrorist threats and BLM hasn't killed cops, nor have they made it their narrative to kill cops.

FBI says white supremacy is the greater domestic threat.

The facts don't lie but your desperation is certainly showing.

Citation to the intelligence agencies saying that right-winged terrorism is the greatest threat.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has reportedly been warning about the growing threat of violence between left-wing anarchists and right-wing nationalists since 2016, amid claims Antifa's activity has become more confrontational, according to documents seen by Politico.

A confidential intelligence report by the DHS and the FBI accused the "anarchist extremists" of attacks on police, government and political institutions, along with any other symbols of the "capitalist system" or displays of racism, social injustice or fascism.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@Nuck81: they should both get prison time. The antifa protestors as well

Agreed, they feed off each other.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@Nuck81: they should both get prison time. The antifa protestors as well

Agreed, they feed off each other.

For protesting? That's a Constitutional right.

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What's this country coming to when a bunch of fine white young men can't get into a street brawl and can't avoid suffering consequences for it? We need to take our country back!

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#18  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@Nuck81: they should both get prison time. The antifa protestors as well

Agreed, they feed off each other.

For protesting? That's a Constitutional right.

They are fighting each other, attacking bystanders and vandalising property as well as straight up giving abuse to police officers, wasting public resources where they could be elsewhere.

Pair of them are arseholes. One is left, therefor gets more of a free pass.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@Nuck81: they should both get prison time. The antifa protestors as well

Agreed, they feed off each other.

For protesting? That's a Constitutional right.

They are fighting each other, attacking bystanders and vandalising property as well as straight up giving abuse to police officers, wasting public resources where they could be elsewhere.

Pair of them are arseholes. One is left, therefor gets more of a free pass.

Read the bolded.

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#20  Edited By MirkoS77
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Antifa are scum, Proud Boys are scum. They're both bad. I marched with Antifa immediately following Trump's election and some of those guys are real pieces of work. Don't go near Proud Boys, but at least they embrace what garbage they are. I tend to dislike Antifa more because they attempt to frame their means as righteous and moral, yet in manner that is anything but. Hence, hurting the cause we truly need to combat people like Trump and his cronies. They are not on our side.

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"The victims in the case were never identified, and Antifa refused to cooperate with the investigation. Prosecutors said that if they could have located the Antifa members, they would have also been charged."

This is rather interesting, moving forward with prosecution and being successful with no actual victim, victims who happen to be suspects themselves?

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#22  Edited By Zaryia
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@Jacanuk said:
@Nuck81 said:

Violent Republicans are the biggest domestic terror threat the United States faces.

As to the last one, no the biggest threat is BLM and ANTIFA.

What....

Right-Wing Extremism Linked to Every 2018 Extremist Murder in the U.S., ADL Finds

https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/right-wing-extremism-linked-to-every-2018-extremist-murder-in-the-us-adl-finds

Wray says FBI has recorded about 100 domestic terrorism arrests in fiscal 2019 and many investigations involve white supremacy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

Opposite Day? Right Wing terror is nearly all of domestic terror from 2016-2019.

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Trump: Time to pardon...

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@MirkoS77 said:

Antifa are scum, Proud Boys are scum. They're both bad. I marched with Antifa immediately following Trump's election and some of those guys are real pieces of work. Don't go near Proud Boys, but at least they embrace what garbage they are. I tend to dislike Antifa more because they attempt to frame their means as righteous and moral, yet in manner that is anything but. Hence, hurting the cause we truly need to combat people like Trump and his cronies. They are not on our side.

Well-put.

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Well, a violent right wing extremist won't last long in prison since it's heavily populated by the left wing. So you have your solution?

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Can't we just call them "violent extremists"? Calling them "right wing" almost begs people to respond in some negative way like, i.e. left-wing person going "Good hope he dies" and right-wing person going "No justice, what about the lefties?"

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@Nuck81: they should both get prison time. The antifa protestors as well

Agreed, they feed off each other.

For protesting? That's a Constitutional right.

They are fighting each other, attacking bystanders and vandalising property as well as straight up giving abuse to police officers, wasting public resources where they could be elsewhere.

Pair of them are arseholes. One is left, therefor gets more of a free pass.

Read the bolded.

Violent protesting as far as i'm aware isn't constitutional.

If it is (and I hope it isn't) then if it's their constitutional right to hold down a pensioner on the middle of a street screaming in their face dressed like members of ISIS, then it should be your constitutional right to teach their teeth how to fly in a dramatic fashion.

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@uninspiredcup: I don't give a damn about your opinion. The initial post said they should be arrested for protesting. Period. That's wrong. Do you conservatives care at all about the Constitution because apparently you don't seem to anymore.

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#29  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@uninspiredcup: I don't give a damn about your opinion. The initial post said they should be arrested for protesting. Period. That's wrong. Do you consevative care at all about the Constitution because apparently you don't seem to anymore.

He was obviously talking in the context of violent protesting. That's you putting your own spin on it to make them seem like angels.

Also i'm not conservative, i'm left leaning labour. I just, don't like assholes, left or right. No one in their right mind want to see jerkoffs screaming and brawling in their streets like it's Gangs Of Fucking New York.

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#30 LJS9502_basic
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@uninspiredcup said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@uninspiredcup: I don't give a damn about your opinion. The initial post said they should be arrested for protesting. Period. That's wrong. Do you consevative care at all about the Constitution because apparently you don't seem to anymore.

He was obviously talking in the context of violent protesting. That's you putting your own spin on it to make them seem like angels.

Also i'm not conservative, i'm left leaning labour. I just, don't like assholes, left or right. No one in their right mind want to see jerkoffs screaming and brawling in their streets like it's Gangs Of Fucking New York.

No see I'm using his words...…….YOU are putting a spin on it.

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@mrbojangles25 said:

Can't we just call them "violent extremists"? Calling them "right wing" almost begs people to respond in some negative way like, i.e. left-wing person going "Good hope he dies" and right-wing person going "No justice, what about the lefties?"

If you go too far to the right, dont you end up on the left or vice versa? the world is a globe. My logic is infallible.

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#32  Edited By KungfuKitten
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It's fine to have your own opinions, but I see one side is not wearing masks to hide from the law. And they would have faced persecution. Public perception. Antifa is losing it. Alt-right never had it. And they both suck. (Though, proud boys aren't alt-right AFAIK.)

It's a good thing they didn't get the 15, or they would have had an excuse to start shooting each other. This stuff is real close to escalating and there wouldn't be any winners.

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JaCUCK is a Russian troll. I’m 100% convinced.

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Both Antifa and proud boys are douchebags.

Screw these people, let them kill each other

Nerds

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@Nuck81 said:

https://nypost.com/2019/10/22/proud-boys-members-get-prison-for-brawl-with-antifa-protesters/

Good.

With a president that encourages and incites violence through his worshippers, they deserve all the prison time they get.

Violent Republicans are the biggest domestic terror threat the United States faces.

How does he incites violence?

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#36  Edited By HEATHEN75
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@Jacanuk said:
@drunk_pi said:
@Jacanuk said:
@Nuck81 said:

https://nypost.com/2019/10/22/proud-boys-members-get-prison-for-brawl-with-antifa-protesters/

Good.

With a president that encourages and incites violence through his worshippers, they deserve all the prison time they get.

Violent Republicans are the biggest domestic terror threat the United States faces.

Good Riddance.

Also again who thought up the name "Proud Boys" should be jailed like the others.

As to the last one, no the biggest threat is BLM and ANTIFA.

No, they're not. BLM hasn't committed terrorist threats on a mass scale, nor has the organization, as a whole, advocate killing people. Antifa, on the other hand, while having some violent elements, pales in comparison to white supremacist groups who commit the most domestic terror attacks in the U.S.

Dude, why do you eat the Fox narrative? You spout nonsense after nonsense, get fact-checked, yet spout the same nonsense.

Actually BLM has, they have not just killed multiple cops but also disrupted normal peoples day and work.

Also, I see you disagree with the intelligence communities in American who have labelled ANTIFA as a domestic terrorist organisation and even several democratic politicians have said as much.

So you may want to educate yourself before accusing me of being dependent "fox narrative" which is laughable considering I don´t even watch Fox.

You don't have to lie to kick it.

Name one cop that was killed by BLM.

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@Gatygun said:
@Nuck81 said:

https://nypost.com/2019/10/22/proud-boys-members-get-prison-for-brawl-with-antifa-protesters/

Good.

With a president that encourages and incites violence through his worshippers, they deserve all the prison time they get.

Violent Republicans are the biggest domestic terror threat the United States faces.

How does he incites violence?

Seriously?

"If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously, OK? Just knock the hell ... I promise you I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise," he said on Feb. 1, 2016.

At a Las Vegas rally later that month, he said security guards were too gentle with a protester. "He's walking out with big high-fives, smiling, laughing," Trump said. "I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you."

A similar situation unfolded at a rally that month in Warren, Michigan.

"Get him out," he said of a protester. "Try not to hurt him. If you do, I'll defend you in court. Don't worry about it."

...

He described the precautions typically taken by police where they place a hand over a suspect's head while they're being put into a police car in order to protect them.

"When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just seen them thrown in, rough. I said, 'Please don’t be too nice,'" he said.

"When you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting their head you know, the way you put their hand over [their head]," Trump continued, mimicking the motion. "Like, 'Don’t hit their head and they’ve just killed somebody, don’t hit their head.' I said, 'You can take the hand away, OK?'

...

During a rally for Montana Republicans ahead of the midterms, Trump praised Rep. Greg Gianforte, who allegedly body slammed a reporter back when he was initially running for his congressional seat in 2017.

"Any guy that can do a body slam, he is my type!" Trump said on Thursday to cheers.

The referenced body-slam happened in May 2017 when then-candidate Gianforte attacked reporter Ben Jacobs.

...

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Oh and let's not forget that .gif of how he feels about CNN. Pretty sure this is encouraging people to commit violence.

I have to admit that is kind of funny, but others would take it as inspiration.

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@mrbojangles25: comeee oooon now its a meme, of coarse its funny lol CNN is just a corporation, its a clip from trump in the WWF... nobody should see that as inciting violence

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@jeezers said:

@mrbojangles25: comeee oooon now its a meme, of coarse its funny lol CNN is just a corporation, its a clip from trump in the WWF... nobody should see that as inciting violence

trump incites violence. What is the disconnect with trump fans? At least own that you like his lawlessness.

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#40  Edited By Vaasman
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@jeezers said:

@mrbojangles25: comeee oooon now its a meme, of coarse its funny lol CNN is just a corporation, its a clip from trump in the WWF... nobody should see that as inciting violence

https://www.france24.com/en/20191014-doctored-video-shows-trump-violently-attacking-media-figures-political-opponents

A similar video was played at Mar a Lago and included a mass killing from Kingsmen, depicting Donald Trump unambiguously murdering news, individual political critics, and opponents alike.

It's funny until it's not, and we've passed that threshold a long while back.

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@plageus900: @HoolaHoopMan: Don't bother going back that far, just look to early this week.

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@mattbbpl said:

@plageus900: @HoolaHoopMan: Don't bother going back that far, just look to early this week.

And they claim to be the party of morality while being led by crooks and psychopaths. I can't help but laugh when people try and claim the GOP isn't riddled with these goons.

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@HoolaHoopMan said:
@mattbbpl said:

@plageus900: @HoolaHoopMan: Don't bother going back that far, just look to early this week.

And they claim to be the party of morality while being led by crooks and psychopaths. I can't help but laugh when people try and claim the GOP isn't riddled with these goons.

Funny, but have you ever considered sweeping in front your own door instead of just running around and going "but the other side does it too"?

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Oi folks. The images were a little extreme.

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@Jacanuk said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:
@mattbbpl said:

@plageus900: @HoolaHoopMan: Don't bother going back that far, just look to early this week.

And they claim to be the party of morality while being led by crooks and psychopaths. I can't help but laugh when people try and claim the GOP isn't riddled with these goons.

Funny, but have you ever considered sweeping in front your own door instead of just running around and going "but the other side does it too"?

Keep making excuses for a morally decrepit party and administration. You're only embarrassing yourself.

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@Jacanuk said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:
@mattbbpl said:

@plageus900: @HoolaHoopMan: Don't bother going back that far, just look to early this week.

And they claim to be the party of morality while being led by crooks and psychopaths. I can't help but laugh when people try and claim the GOP isn't riddled with these goons.

Funny, but have you ever considered sweeping in front your own door instead of just running around and going "but the other side does it too"?

Whataboutism jacunauk.

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@HoolaHoopMan said:
@Jacanuk said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:
@mattbbpl said:

@plageus900: @HoolaHoopMan: Don't bother going back that far, just look to early this week.

And they claim to be the party of morality while being led by crooks and psychopaths. I can't help but laugh when people try and claim the GOP isn't riddled with these goons.

Funny, but have you ever considered sweeping in front your own door instead of just running around and going "but the other side does it too"?

Keep making excuses for a morally decrepit party and administration. You're only embarrassing yourself.

Neither party really has any claim to morality. The republicans are terrible, but the democrats aren't that far behind. It's shameful to support either in my opinion.