Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit

Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44852812

US President Donald Trump has defended Russia over claims of interference in the 2016 presidential election.

After face-to-face talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Mr Trump contradicted US intelligence agencies and said there had been no reason for Russia to meddle in the vote.

Mr Putin reiterated that Russia had never interfered in US affairs.

The two men held nearly two hours of closed-door talks in the Finnish capital Helsinki on Monday.

RIP Intel Chiefs faces when this news hit. They seriously must have all been like this,

Top Republicans in Congress break with Trump over Putin comments

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/congress-reaction-trump-putin-comments/index.html

Trump 'treasonous' after siding with Putin on election meddling

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/16/trump-finds-putin-denial-of-election-meddling-powerful

What a disaster.

Team blue really wants another cold war....puppets

@DaBrainz: Putin literally kills people who disagree with him........

You want the us to have common ground with that?

@dreman999: Considering the nuclear arsenal, yes.

Y’know, for no collusion, Trump loves towing the line. Insulting our own institutions, favoring others. Trump sure loves and puts America first!

You know for someone with ZERO evidence, you sure love to disregard our legal system for a biased personal opinion.

But what people don´t seem to get, is that as long as Democrats keep spouting the lie that Trump only won because of Russia, Trump will never admit to some facebook/twitter troll accounts from Russia.

@DaBrainz: wow. You'really short sighted. What makes you think he won't consider using them even if we make peace?

@Jacanuk: it’s not mine, nor anyone else’s fault, that you’re staring at a wall of dots drawing a very obvious picture, yet screaming there’s no line to define it for you so it doesn’t exist. Evidence, at this point, is a mere formality. One that’s required for the likes of you and other Trumpsters still holding on to the faith.

Something is going on. Are you going to deny, at the very least, that he’s making Putin quite happy at seemingly every opportunity he has? Cling desperately to “no evidence!” as long as you wish, most see a very obvious bias towards Putin, both in Trump’s rhetoric and policies.

“MRGA!”

The obvious answer is he is a mobster type not an insane lunatic. Nuclear war is not exactly good for making money.

Riiight, because the FBI has never put innocent peoples liberty on the line over false accusations of Russian collusion

Believing and siding with a Russian dictator and throwing America under the bus.

I hope all you Trump bootlickers are happy.

So, does this mean more republicans are in favor of impeachment? When I think about it. What is pence opinion of this? He's probably waiting for Trump to get impeached so he can become the president? Hmmm...

@SUD123456: the guy want to invade other countries.

@vl4d_l3nin: bs.

Republicans need to grow some balls and impeach this traitor.

Our president went against the entire american intelligence community to side with Russia. I have to keep typing it out because it's still so sadly shocking. And if having the delusional opinion isn't dumb enough, he said it out loud in public so others can hear. What an absolute moron.

What you think and what is able to be proven are two very different things.

Can you prove Trump colluded with Russia? No, then what about letting a core fundament in our democracy rule, and as everyone else, they are innocent until proven guilty.

And why do you think something is going on? because Trump is not a democratic puppet or because he states the obvious, that dialogue is better than war.

But this is McCarthyism all over again.

What else is new.... we all knew trump would believe Russians over the FBI, doj, etc... I just wanna know what the Russians have on trump

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/16/17577244/trump-putin-summit-mccain-paul-ryan-republican-lawmakers-react

GOP lawmakers react to Trump-Putin summit: lots of condemnation, few concrete plans

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/congress-reaction-trump-putin-comments/index.html

Top Republicansin Congress break with Trump over Putin comments

Don't be so culty.

So the 12 indictments over the hacking are fictitious and mostly paranoia?

Link?

Well, how do you think we would ever find out, and when did indictments become actual guilty verdicts.

But thanks for proving the point.

But thats not what I asked. I asked if those indictments are real or not (I edited before you posted, to make it clear). Are they completely fabricated, via conspiracy? So you think the ICA is wrong and that Putin is right?

Trump already made his mind up on this. He sided with Putin over our IC. He never waited to "find out".

And I asked you when did Indictments become actual guilty verdicts. And how would we ever find out what was presented behind closed doors? in case you are not aware, the presented "case" is under lock and key, until it can be presented in a courtroom, and i hope you are not naive enough to believe that.

The leaked information is one side´s story, we have no way of knowing if that is actually the truth.

The information we have on Russia meddling is from the FBI, CIA, NHS, DHS, DOJ, Senate, and Congress intel. Are you suggesting they are all lying? And even with your logic, not knowing would still put Trump's siding with Putin in a troubled spot. Why assume Putin > ICA?

Your posts sound extremely conspiratorial, and are miming nearly exactly what Trump was saying. Which is bad.

No it's not. The FBI had a decades long program of illegally surveying and arresting people

@Jacanuk: not a democratic puppet, nope. Something we can finally agree on. He’s a Russian one....if not through willingness, then manipulation. Trump is way in over his head for this game.

Sad day in American history. Dude is either a traitor or he's been completely compromised, either one isn't good.

@vl4d_l3nin: I'm talking about in this case. And most of your example you need proof.

In this case they are stop on.they have 2 people who already confessed to be Russian spies both from trump camp and many indicted for it.

Why is everyone discussing whether collusion happened or not? Isn't the real problem in this story that a nation's president sides with the intelligence of a hostile nation rather than his own? Elevating an opposing foreign power at the expense of your own should not be defended. I mean, as a voter how blind do you need to be to throw your country under the bus just because the monkey you put in power also flings shit at the people you don't like? Bigger picture and all that...

After what the FBI has engaged in concerning Trump I can see where he is coming from. After what they did i have will never have the respect for them that I once did.

What you mean investigating a traitor who is clearly colluding with Russia, our greatest adversary?

Embarrassing for Trump considering just how bad this went. This, along with the recent North Korean details, is showing just how ineffective his foreign policy and 'deal' making skills are. They've gotten him played by Putin, North Korea, diminished NATO allies, and started a full blown trade war which is erasing any gains from his ill begotten tax cut. It's time to pull the plug on this sick experiment of Trump being president.

The only ones left are simply Trump cultists. They've essentially cornered themselves into some sick psychological 'sunk cost' scenario where they're continually doubling down on every dumb move he's made and still losing each hand.

From the videos I saw I didnt see him say a single bad thing about Russia, not once. in fact in one answer he gave to the question about 'influencing the election' he didnt even say the word Russia in his 3 or 4 mins answer.

stunning but also predictable as well as Trump supporters responses.

Thing is, its likely Pence in compromised to, so we (as in real americans paying attention) have lost.

#pussyinchief

So...what's the point of having the CIA and FBI if the US president isn't going to listen to them?

Wow. Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. Trump has to be compromised in some way.

Say what you will about Trump, but he makes the impossible possible. Who would have thought one day you would see some republicans defending a Russian dictator (yes I know, he's not really a dictator, he changes laws and constitution to make sure all is legal LMAO).

And some Republicans talking like true cowards saying it's all OK because Russia has nuclear weapons... WTF. Imagine this kind of US leadership during the Cold War!!! It's just too damn funny.

and what is going to happen in the future is that democrats will be the party of patriots and the GOP will be associated with treason.

it is amazing how things happen

By discussing collusion, it shifts the argument AWAY from the president of the US, in public, on the world stage, shitting on his own intelligence community in favor of an adversary; literally blaming the victim rather than the aggressor DESPITE the victim being the country HE has sworn to protect. stunning.

for trumpettes, better to fight about collusion than have to face the reality of what just occurred.

LOL. how convenient for you.

you wouldn't want to have to admit trump is an idiot.

You think all you lefties would love Russia.

first thing you said that has some element of truth.

Russia has gotten a raw deal in the past and what they have done then and now we would have done as well. for the most part they are just trying to protect themselves from US aggression.

BUT....members of the GOP (including yourself now) are not only supporting these actions by Russia, you are actually helping them.

This is going to bite you in the ass hard in the next year.

Oh of course

rUsSiA

Why would people on the left love a right wing oligarchy?

I get why Republicans love Russia. It's what they aspire to for the US. They love fascism, oligarchy, and kleptocracy.

@tryit: No it wont. At the end of the day what did they do? They told the truth about the DNC. They unveiled lies that our govermen't kept secret for their benefit. Yes they did it soley for their own benefit but the fact still stands. How does it make you feel the entire DNC was rigged? Is that not an issue? Now your all focused on Russia because the end result didn't suite you.

no a Russian Spy is current in American prison right now awaiting trial.

I dont mind you justifying the hack, I am completely fine with that. you go with that and I will not debate you, but dont deny that it happened, that is where you and I will clash.

The only idiots are the Trump haters who are so blinded they can't see the trees for the forest.