NY grand jury votes to indict Tump

While it represents land better. Democracy has never been about land voting. It is about people voting. And the Electoral College does the complete opposite of that. By giving some people's vote more weight than others. It will also assume some people vote a certain way not based on how they actually voted, but based on where they live.

Actually people get equal representation because no matter population every state gets 2 Senators.

People still live all across the land. The electoral college does exactly what it's meant to, make sure everyone has a say. A strict democracy of majority rule, based on population would be disastrous for all of middle America. Big metro cities would decide everything on the federal level. Without having the electoral college there would be no point in a 2 party system. Big cities like LA, Chicago, NY, would control everything. Making the country officially a uni-party. Democrats would win every election. That's why the more extreme Democrats support getting rid of the electoral college. They would never lose. People vote for their needs. So called "fly over states" have different needs and wants than LA.

And even if your in a big high population city, your voice is still reflected in the electoral vote. That's why CA gets 55 electoral votes and Alaska 3 electoral votes.

The electoral college is genius and exists for a reason. The fore fathers knew a democracy on the federal level without an electoral college would take away many peoples voices in the country in lower populated areas compared to the big cities. Again, it does exactly what it's meant to do.

Every one has a say. It's called a vote. But a less populous state should not have more of a say over more populated areas.

The only way to make the EC fair would be to get rid of winner takes all. But we don't actually need it. The people should have the say in who wins. The EC was ONLY enacted as compromise between those who wanted Congress to decide and those who wanted the people to decide. It's also NOT in the Constitution.

The best

@sargentd: I guess if you like losing all the time. Enjoy!

Wrong

Less populated don't have more of a say, they get less of a say even with the electoral college. The electoral votes per state is based on population. I already said CA gets 55 votes, Alaska gets 3.

A strict democracy would ensure voters in Alaska get absolutely no say in anything. Atleast it gets some kind of representation by the electoral college. Even if it's ×16 LESS the amount of say as CA. Atleast it gets something.

And they still deserve some say, the needs of people in Alaska would be ignored completely by LA and NY for example. They are so different it wouldn't make sense to have a majority rule democracy in America. It's too big with too many different needs depending where you are in the country. The electoral college is much better than a majority rule democracy for this reason.

Trump 2024 will happen

Brace your anus!!

Yes they do have more of a say. A voter in Wyoming has more say than a voter in California.

No, if you are in CA. Your state gets 55 electoral votes, so your state gets x16 more say than say Alaska who gets 3 electoral votes. Wyoming gets 3 electoral votes as well.

PER person. https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/texas-screwed-electoral-college/ Here's Texas complaining about it and they are a red state.

Geography doesn't vote. 🙄

I've already explained to you why we don't do it PER person

We should do it PER person. People have the votes. Not land. I've already explained that to YOU.

Wrong

Less populated don't have more of a say, they get less of a say even with the electoral college. The electoral votes per state is based on population. I already said CA gets 55 votes, Alaska gets 3.

A strict democracy would ensure voters in Alaska get absolutely no say in anything. Atleast it gets some kind of representation by the electoral college. Even if it's ×16 LESS the amount of say as CA. Atleast it gets something.

And they still deserve some say, the needs of people in Alaska would be ignored completely by LA and NY for example. They are so different it wouldn't make sense to have a majority rule democracy in America. It's too big with too many different needs depending where you are in the country. The electoral college is much better than a majority rule democracy for this reason.

People still live all across the land. The electoral college does exactly what it's meant to, make sure everyone has a say. A strict democracy of majority rule, based on population would be disastrous for all of middle America. Big metro cities would decide everything on the federal level. Without having the electoral college there would be no point in a 2 party system. Big cities like LA, Chicago, NY, would control everything. Making the country officially a uni-party. Democrats would win every election. That's why the more extreme Democrats support getting rid of the electoral college. They would never lose. People vote for their needs. So called "fly over states" have different needs and wants than LA.

And even if your in a big high population city, your voice is still reflected in the electoral vote. That's why CA gets 55 electoral votes and Alaska 3 electoral votes.

The electoral college is genius and exists for a reason. The fore fathers knew a democracy on the federal level without it, would take away many peoples voices in the country in lower populated areas compared to the big cities. Again, it does exactly what it's meant to do.

@sargentd: You either didn't read the link or you don't understand what it said. Population votes, not acreage.

Too bad Trump lost the EC really badly in 2020!

By the way, as a proponent of the EC, do you agree we should make it far easier to vote like other modern countries? US ranks very poorly in elections. Like automatic or same-day registration, for example.

Trump indictment: Former president calls for defunding FBI, DOJ after arrest (nbcnews.com)

Lmao

7 years later and TDS continues 🤣.

There are

732,673 alaskans and about 39 million californians.

Alaska gets one elector per 240,000 alaskans, california only gets one per 710,000 californians. So a vote in alaska is about 3 times more impactful as one in california. This is absolutely laughable in any democratic standard. A vote in Alaska still counts. And a conservative voting in Alaska still has their vote count. They are not voting against 39 million californians. 11 million Californians while also being aided by 6 million californians, while also being aided by many other smaller states. Republicans can still win if more people favor their position. Bush won the popular vote in 2004 so it is possible for Republicans to win.

All the Electoral College is, is the affirmative action of unpopular ideas.

Looking ahead to later this month, on April 25th, Trump will face another trial from a woman, E. Jean Carrol, who alleges that Trump raped her back in the 90s. There will be a separate case for another woman who alleges that Trump raped her at a later date as well. The state of New York, last year, extended the statute of limitations which is why these cases are being allowed to be heard and made against the former president.

Regardless of what you think of the Stormy Daniels cover up that is being heard right now, I'm glad we can all say that we don't stand with rapists. Lol kidding, Trump followers aren't going to change their minds no matter what.

https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-next-april-court-date-in-ny-is-on-rape-allegations-193009519.html

I love this. Ha!

@sargentd: pretty sure I would be the one being accused if that was the case lol

@sargentd: It's you're. You must live in a red state.

Come on people now!

Smile on your brother, everybody get together, try to love one another righhht noww

7 years later, TDS live and well:

Judge in Trump criminal case targeted with threats - CBS News

Trump Derangement Syndrome, effecting his cultists at such a high rate.

Nobody was having argument about voting until before Barack Obama was talking about Russians will hack and change the vote and now nobody can trust 100% the elections and we need to count by hand.

Why are conservatives here the worst lol....wtf is this.

@sargentd: You.....you feeling okay?

Really going a bit far there.

You would think he would stop short of this behavior, but well.......

@Serraph105: it's a short example why accusations are just that, accusations. Anyone can make an accusation at anytime. It doesn't really mean anything. I figured I could explain it to you with a short example instead of actually explaining why you getting all giddy about rape accusations without evidence. But nah you didn't get it. Maybe now you do, you rapist lmao

@sargentd: I thought you would get to this argument. You do understand there's a difference between a person accusing another person of raping them, and someone else entirely saying that an unaffiliated person is the true rapist, right?

At this point I'm honestly not sure you are smart enough to understand the difference.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/us/politics/joe-biden-tara-reade-sexual-assault-complaint.html

Joe Biden is a rapist. Of course Democrats support rapist. Vote blue no matter who blahblahblahblah