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#1 Fairmonkey
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What will joe biden do to help or improve the country without mentioning Donald trump? Don't say "to get trump out of office." I want responses about what good he will actually do with his policies

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Unite the lefties lol.

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#3 Maroxad
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https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/

It is hard to say exactly how much of this he will fulfill, but if this is his agenda, his agenda isnt that bad.

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#4 tenaka2
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Restore Americas standing in the world.

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#5  Edited By Vaasman
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Free caged children.

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#6 Sevenizz
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Not much. He’s called transitional for a reason.

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#7 tenaka2
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Talk action against Russian bounties on the U.S. military.

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#8 Fairmonkey
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@Vaasman: didn't obama and him cage the children first?

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#9 deactivated-5fd4737f5f083
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Move the US a way from being a Russian puppet.

Reinstate respecitible relations with others western nations.

Increase the average size of hands in the white house

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#10 VFighter
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Sleep, hide in the white house basement, avoid talking to the press.

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#11 Gaming-Planet
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@npiet1 said:

Unite the lefties lol.

I doubt he can do that when even democratic run cities are having a lack of support from the BLM and far leftists.

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@vfighter said:

Sleep, hide in the white house basement, avoid talking to the press.

You weren't supposed to mention trump.

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I can at least count on him to trust our intelligence agencies over our foreign adversaries.

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#14 Serraph105
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Re-enter the Paris climate agreement and pursue the most aggressive climate change reduction agenda any president has ever done.

Also, strengthen the ACA so people who have found it to weakened as of late due to the actions of the *insert whatever administration you deem responsible here* will hopefully be able to have health insurance worth a damn once again.

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abortions for all in 17th trimester!!!!!!!

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@Maroxad: You're just supposed to agree with those who can't/won't read his platform that he has no platform.

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#17  Edited By deactivated-601cef9eca9e5
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@Fairmonkey: Biden can't even get through a sentence, let alone a presidency. There is a reason why the Democrats do not want the debates to happen...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRmEMq0sUjY

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#18 deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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Not lie to us every second.

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@warmblur: Who lied?

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#20  Edited By Maroxad
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@mighty-lu-bu said:

@Fairmonkey: Biden can't even get through a sentence, let alone a presidency. There is a reason why the Democrats do not want the debates to happen...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRmEMq0sUjY

Democrats (the party as a whole), want to debate Trump, and the Biden Campaign have already agreed to 3 debates. It is true however that there are some individuals who happen to be democrats who dont want Biden to debate trump however, but these are few and far inbetween. As a result, I rate your claim False.

And regarding your other comment. Trump did.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2020/05/05/trump-is-lying-more-than-ever-just-look-at-the-data/#3d7e41ba1e17

Trump lies more times per week than Todd Howard does per game.

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#21 pyro1245
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Not much. He's on cleanup duty.

Gotta do X because Trump fucked it up so bad.

At least he wont gaslight the American people on Twitter.

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@mighty-lu-bu said:

@Fairmonkey: Biden can't even get through a sentence, let alone a presidency. There is a reason why the Democrats do not want the debates to happen...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRmEMq0sUjY

Trump doesn't debate tho.

He just hurls insults at his opponents and lies to the American people. Debates with him are pointless. Just another opportunity for him to spread fear and anger.

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#23 deactivated-5fab1400b2fcc
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@Fairmonkey: no

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All these things which Biden gets criticised for remind me of a certain somebody.

People in glass houses and all that.

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@Maroxad said:
@mighty-lu-bu said:

@Fairmonkey: Biden can't even get through a sentence, let alone a presidency. There is a reason why the Democrats do not want the debates to happen...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRmEMq0sUjY

Democrats (the party as a whole), want to debate Trump, and the Biden Campaign have already agreed to 3 debates. It is true however that there are some individuals who happen to be democrats who dont want Biden to debate trump however, but these are few and far inbetween. As a result, I rate your claim False.

And regarding your other comment. Trump did.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2020/05/05/trump-is-lying-more-than-ever-just-look-at-the-data/#3d7e41ba1e17

Trump lies more times per week than Todd Howard does per game.

Can't wait for the debates.

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Won't regularly spread, engage and wink at absurd conspiracy theories that have no business coming from the mouth of a global leader.

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@whiskeystrike said:

Won't regularly spread, engage and wink at absurd conspiracy theories that have no business coming from the mouth of a global leader.

What conspiracy theories?

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#28 JoshRMeyer
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Hopefully we finally get healthcare for everyone(free). And student loan relief would be nice too but I'm not too worried about that. Tons of people can't afford healthcare and that's pretty sad.

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#29  Edited By deactivated-5fab1400b2fcc
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@joshrmeyer: I wouldnt count on it. Would need a liberal super majority in all branches of government to get that.

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#30 Fairmonkey
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@joshrmeyer: can't people just get a job and get decent health care?

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#31  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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Bring down the Wall?

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@joshrmeyer said:

Hopefully we finally get healthcare for everyone(free). And student loan relief would be nice too but I'm not too worried about that. Tons of people can't afford healthcare and that's pretty sad.

Pie in the sky. The United States will NEVER have healthcare for everyone. It isn't because we are unjust, it's because we can't afford it. Democratic socialists love to use the Nordic countries as the poster child for socialized medicine but there is one major problem with that: in the Nordic countries, everyone pays, not just the rich. We are talking about astronomically high tax rates for the poor and the middle class.

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#33 LJS9502_basic
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@Fairmonkey said:

@joshrmeyer: can't people just get a job and get decent health care?

Not all employers can afford health care. Why must an employer cover it? Why can't the government do it as is done in other countries? Seems to work for them.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Fairmonkey said:

@joshrmeyer: can't people just get a job and get decent health care?

Not all employers can afford health care. Why must an employer cover it? Why can't the government do it as is done in other countries? Seems to work for them.

What is the government supposed to do?

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@mighty-lu-bu: What's Canada do? I don't know, but I'm sure the richest country in the world can figure it out. Maybe spend less on military.

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@mighty-lu-bu: What's Canada do? I don't know, but I'm sure the richest country in the world can figure it out. Maybe spend less on military.

Are you referring to Canada's failing healthcare system? Did you know that the population of California is larger than the entire country of Canada?

I will leave you with one important question: who is going to pay for this stuff?

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@mighty-lu-bu: Not sure what population has to do with anything. More workers equal more taxes paid in. I don't know how else they'd get the money but I'm sure the government can figure it out. It should be their number 1 priority. IMO.

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#38  Edited By mrbojangles25
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Fix our reputation internationally.

Bring some common sense to the oval office.

Appoint intelligent and capable people to various cabinet positions and offices.

@Fairmonkey said:

@Vaasman: didn't obama and him cage the children first?

Yeah and they're still there under the pizzeria.

With Hilary guarding them.

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@joshrmeyer said:

@mighty-lu-bu: Not sure what population has to do with anything. More workers equal more taxes paid in. I don't know how else they'd get the money but I'm sure the government can figure it out. It should be their number 1 priority. IMO.

Well, the way how American Democratic Socialists are spinning it is that they are just going to tax the rich. Unfortunately, this will not generate enough revenue. How it works in the Nordic countries is that they tax everyone at astronomically high tax rates, even the poor and middle class. People in America will never vote for this.

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@mighty-lu-bu said:
@joshrmeyer said:

@mighty-lu-bu: What's Canada do? I don't know, but I'm sure the richest country in the world can figure it out. Maybe spend less on military.

Are you referring to Canada's failing healthcare system? Did you know that the population of California is larger than the entire country of Canada?

I will leave you with one important question: who is going to pay for this stuff?

Canada, you mean the single payer system that costs proportionately far less than the US, is accessible by all, and has better outcomes on pretty much all indicators? Or you could choose an even better one like France.

And who is going to pay? The US pays proportionately more than anyone, so perhaps start with recognizing that whomever is going to pay is going to pay less.

And the answer in any and all systems is the same: "we the people" because the people pay for everything and the only question or difference in any system is how the cost is apportioned and recovered.

A 'single payer' system is a bit of a misnomer because they are funded by taxation, but they have the benefits of universal coverage/accessibility and lower cost/better system efficiency. Their only comparative downside is convenience/speed of access for non-emergencies. From a societal point of view it is a far better trade to bear some degree of greater inconvenience vs higher costs and worse outcomes.

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@mrbojangles25 said:

Fix our reputation internationally.

Bring some common sense to the oval office.

Appoint intelligent and capable people to various cabinet positions and offices.

@Fairmonkey said:

@Vaasman: didn't obama and him cage the children first?

Yeah and they're still there under the pizzeria.

With Hilary guarding them.

Fix our reputation? What does that even mean? Regardless, all of our troops should be out of the middle east and we should be out of the business of nation-building.

Common sense? How much common sense was there in the last administration? We have the data on ACA and it was a disaster. Obama doubled down on Bush's wars and he caused even more issues (he bombed Libya, Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan).

You don't think Ben Carson is intelligent or capable? That is sort of racist...

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@mighty-lu-bu said:
@mrbojangles25 said:

Fix our reputation internationally.

Bring some common sense to the oval office.

Appoint intelligent and capable people to various cabinet positions and offices.

@Fairmonkey said:

@Vaasman: didn't obama and him cage the children first?

Yeah and they're still there under the pizzeria.

With Hilary guarding them.

...

You don't think Ben Carson is intelligent or capable? That is sort of racist...

Wow, you a leftie? You sure seem triggered.

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@mighty-lu-bu said:
@joshrmeyer said:

@mighty-lu-bu: Not sure what population has to do with anything. More workers equal more taxes paid in. I don't know how else they'd get the money but I'm sure the government can figure it out. It should be their number 1 priority. IMO.

Well, the way how American Democratic Socialists are spinning it is that they are just going to tax the rich. Unfortunately, this will not generate enough revenue. How it works in the Nordic countries is that they tax everyone at astronomically high tax rates, even the poor and middle class. People in America will never vote for this.

Health care is already incredibly expensive in the US and overall care is not as good.
It's not just the Nordic countries that have far better health systems than the US.

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@mighty-lu-bu said:
@joshrmeyer said:

@mighty-lu-bu: What's Canada do? I don't know, but I'm sure the richest country in the world can figure it out. Maybe spend less on military.

Are you referring to Canada's failing healthcare system? Did you know that the population of California is larger than the entire country of Canada?

I will leave you with one important question: who is going to pay for this stuff?

Canada, you mean the single payer system that costs proportionately far less than the US, is accessible by all, and has better outcomes on pretty much all indicators? Or you could choose an even better one like France.

And who is going to pay? The US pays proportionately more than anyone, so perhaps start with recognizing that whomever is going to pay is going to pay less.

And the answer in any and all systems is the same: "we the people" because the people pay for everything and the only question or difference in any system is how the cost is apportioned and recovered.

A 'single payer' system is a bit of a misnomer because they are funded by taxation, but they have the benefits of universal coverage/accessibility and lower cost/better system efficiency. Their only comparative downside is convenience/speed of access for non-emergencies. From a societal point of view it is a far better trade to bear some degree of greater inconvenience vs higher costs and worse outcomes.

Again, why are we comparing apples to oranges? There are 38 million people in all of Canada- there are 328 million people in the US.

Another thing that you are failing to acknowledge is that even if we taxed everyone at 50% percent, we still could not afford this because we are in a deficit. I really don't understand why Democrats and my fellow Republicans don't realize that you can't spend money that you don't have.

https://reason.com/video/stossel-free-stuff-2020/

https://reason.com/2020/08/19/big-spending-biden/

https://reason.com/2020/08/26/big-spending-trump/

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This seems like a trick question, because Biden's biggest selling point is that he isn't Trump.

It's like asking "What's the best thing about the polio vaccine? Your answer can't mention polio."

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@Fairmonkey: he wont do jack shit. Also, im hoping for 4 more years of trump, hes done a lot of good, and has a great sense of humor. I don't want 4 years of boring biden.

Also can't wait for the debates....trump is going to bash biden real good. Its going to be hilarious.

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@joshrmeyer said:

@mighty-lu-bu: What's Canada do? I don't know, but I'm sure the richest country in the world can figure it out. Maybe spend less on military.

Yes. Damn dude you're actually changing some of your thinking. Good for you.

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@LJS9502_basic: Yeah I guess I fall somewhere in the middle.

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#49  Edited By Fairmonkey
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@blaznwiipspman1: I agree, I think trump is the funniest president I can think of

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@mighty-lu-bu said:
@SUD123456 said:
@mighty-lu-bu said:
@joshrmeyer said:

@mighty-lu-bu: What's Canada do? I don't know, but I'm sure the richest country in the world can figure it out. Maybe spend less on military.

Are you referring to Canada's failing healthcare system? Did you know that the population of California is larger than the entire country of Canada?

I will leave you with one important question: who is going to pay for this stuff?

Canada, you mean the single payer system that costs proportionately far less than the US, is accessible by all, and has better outcomes on pretty much all indicators? Or you could choose an even better one like France.

And who is going to pay? The US pays proportionately more than anyone, so perhaps start with recognizing that whomever is going to pay is going to pay less.

And the answer in any and all systems is the same: "we the people" because the people pay for everything and the only question or difference in any system is how the cost is apportioned and recovered.

A 'single payer' system is a bit of a misnomer because they are funded by taxation, but they have the benefits of universal coverage/accessibility and lower cost/better system efficiency. Their only comparative downside is convenience/speed of access for non-emergencies. From a societal point of view it is a far better trade to bear some degree of greater inconvenience vs higher costs and worse outcomes.

Again, why are we comparing apples to oranges? There are 38 million people in all of Canada- there are 328 million people in the US.

Another thing that you are failing to acknowledge is that even if we taxed everyone at 50% percent, we still could not afford this because we are in a deficit. I really don't understand why Democrats and my fellow Republicans don't realize that you can't spend money that you don't have.

https://reason.com/video/stossel-free-stuff-2020/

https://reason.com/2020/08/19/big-spending-biden/

https://reason.com/2020/08/26/big-spending-trump/

Are you that limited in thinking that you cannot grasp proportionality as a concept? LMAO.

Cost per unit, per person, per procedure, per drug dosage, etc.

Example: How about Covid deaths?

US: 191,508 deaths, 331 million people = 577 deaths per million population

Can: 9,141 deaths, 38 million people = 242 deaths per million population

Outcome basis comparison: US is approx. 2.5 times worse off than Canada based upon Covid deaths

As for taxation, wtf? Miraculously, every other advanced western economy can afford to fund public healthcare, except the wealthiest country? Ffs, think for yourself instead of parroting garbage. Here's a little comparison between the US and Canada on actual taxation outcomes and what you get for your money.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/07/canadians-may-pay-more-taxes-than-americans-but-theres-a-catch.html