“LOCK HIM UP!”

basically *for Ivanka's response please watch Hillary Clintons response to emails

lol..great humor.

on substance I dont care much about either one of them doing that depending on the content of the emails so its low on my list of things to care about, but it does offer great humor

says it all

Hypocrisy at it's finest.

if the drones loose faith in Trump they will be lost with no leader to follow...that is scary for them..true story

I love how this is coming from the actual Whitehouse. I read an article and it basically reported that their excuse was "No one told Ivanka she could not do that"

Immediately recalled this lovely Dave Chappelle bit:

The thing about the news is they have these things called "sources", and these sources are [interestingly enough] sources of information.

So when CNN says something, it's often not CNN saying things, but their source. The media is not so much fabricating news (as many people falsely claim) as they are making it known to be people what is going on.

In this specific instance, it's not CNN saying Trump is doing this, but the Whitehouse and Trump indirectly saying they are doing this.

I hope this clarifies things for you, as you seem to be having a tough time differentiating between legitimate "news" (facts), "spin" (as all sources tend to do to a certain degree, i.e. MSNBC and FOX News), and lying (aka "fake news") which only extremists tend to do (Breitbart, Info Wars, and so forth).

"This would be extremely embarrassing for the Trump administration were it capable of embarrassment."

Lol.

@tryit: Link?

So, did she get jumped?

Ironic.

Hillary set the precedent of it being okay so I guess it's the okay thing to do now.

I don't remember laughing so hard on this forum like I just did reading Sevenizz's posts.

@Sevenizz: the king of fake news are all right wing media like fox and breitbart. Only ones who believe your nonsense are dumb Republicans. Nobody else.

Though I wouldn't call cnn real news either, it's still far more of a news media than fox news ever dream of being.

I didnt care when Hillary Clinton did this, and I dont care that Ivanka has now done this

@blaznwiipspman1: Nice NPC talking points.

Anyone that actually believes CNN, and Washington Post are fake news, and BBC is a state propaganda network... Then offers up a video from Fox News as a credible source, obviously suffers massive cognitive dissonance.

@n64dd: when did you flip?

@Sevenizz: You are not denying him so I guess you agree. Good to know.

Or if his base cared about his actions in the slightest.

I didn't. I just can see hypocrisy when it's there.

Pretty sure a moderate conservative, can call out Trump.

@Maroxad: Exactly! If a moderate conservative cannot call out Trump when he does something wrong, or foolish, they wouldn't really be moderate at all.

@Lach0121: I'm a moderate, but Canadian. I've been in a union for 20 years. Do I think Trump has done some thing right?.. Yes I do. Will his mouth ever have him referred to as a Statesman?.. Nope! Am I a globalist, no I'm not. Do I believe in borders?.. Yes I do. Life is a two way street. Today there only seems to be one or the other, the extreme on both sides. I'm kind of tired of hearing the words "far right", but never "far left" in the news. When the reality is there is more far left people than there is far right people in a position of power. I think we thank the press for that. No right winger gets referred to as a right winger these days, you are far right. And far left socialists get referred to as liberals. I am a liberal in the true sense of the word, but I would never call myself one today as the name has been hijacked by commies. No one is perfect, but to be perfectly clear, those on the left hate losing and can not stand that Trump won. They'll go on about Hilary having the popular vote, but won't admit they live in a democratic REPUBLIC.

Not a chance I could explain to anyone that I live mostly in the middle, it no longer exists in political speak. Heard that here before (Hi LBJ), not a chance there is a middle. Thank liberal education, and anyone wanting socialism is many cards short of a deck, the history is already there, Stalin killed as many as the second world war, and there's more than him. From my own Canadian Prime Minister who praised Castro Fidel when he died. I can say one thing...can't wait till I'm dead, this world has jumped the shark, and only war will bring the peace. I've said to much already, most can't go beyond a paragraph thanks to emotion!

Cheers Lach!

@n64dd: we normally have to pull your teeth out first before you do so with a republican normally. Glad you got off hard red.

@Mikey132: what good has trump done?

@Mikey132: There are plenty of right wing parties and individuals out there that aren't far right nor deemed far right.

While the far left does hold power in places like Venezuala, Cuba, North Korea, China and the Philipines. With Russia, The US, Brazil, Most of the Middle East, Turkey, Poland, Arguably India and soon to be Brazil being far right. The reason the far right gets more attention is because it is what is trending.

@dreman999 there was some short term growth... but that is now collapsing and any gains have now been lost. Short sighted policies never pan out well in the long term. On the surface trump has done a few other good things, but on closer inspection... one would quickly realize why Academics and experts rated Trump as the worst US president of all time.

@Mikey132: I'm an independent Liberal. When Trump does something right, I praise him. I did when he signed the new laws regarding payments/royalties in regard to digital music distribution. However, his ratio of doing right : wrong/foolish is downright laughable. When Obama won, the right really did hate they lost to him, and couldn't stand him for it. He was constantly ridiculed by the right. The difference here is Trump is far more deserving of being criticized in the way that he is. I openly criticized Obama when I felt it was called for.

I don't really agree with what you said. Not with your notions of socialism. (without any socialist programs... there wouldn't even be a middle class in the USA) Not with the hijacking of the word liberal, by commies, that is a fallacy. (as much as calling all right wingers Nazis) As far as the world going to shit, religion holds much more responsibility than the press. The past few years the evangelicals, and fundamentalists have been having a silent coup to force their beliefs through law. It's the core of the anti-intellectual, and anti-science movements this nation (and world) is plagued with.

I am liberal, but on somethings I hold conservative view points. Most people fall in this category whether they realize it or not. More people in power are on the left, however there is a real far right push in this country, and Europe right now. There may be more liberals in power in the USA, but the far right people in power here have been doing considerably more long term damage.

Liberal education isn't the problem (even though it has its problems), its actually the conservatives that have tried to re-write history here in the States. This is quite an issue with the Texas State of Education & School board, and I am glad that Liberal leaning ACA is doing all they can to fight against it. Once again this is more of religious problem than a liberal education problem. One would have to be quite indoctrinated to not see that. The fact that there is so much money in politics is far more of a problem than liberal education, and once again you can thank the right wing for the worst of that. Citizen's United, and no limit to campaign donations. One would have to be quite partisan not to see that.

Have you heard Trump's musings on dictatorship, and praising multiple dictators. (Kim Jong-Un, Putin)

I am running out of time, so I can't respond in depth. But anyways, yeah cheers.

@Lach0121: *claps

On point I hayed obama's drone hit squads.

@Maroxad: any short term growth had nothing to do with trump. Not one policy he did effected the economies growth.

Trump's deregulations allowed for growth... at least in the short term.

@Maroxad: no it did not. The gains that happen were in stone well before he was on office. Nothing he did would of made it go any faster. All he did was make sure all t ose gains were mostly untaxed.

@Maroxad: guy has a history of being a heavy trump supporter.

Gains?

That's like saying if I inherit a maxxed out credit card that I received a financial windwall.

The interest payments alone are starting to get pricey. That fed rate gets too much higher and the party might not last all that long.

@Damedius: no it's not.

It's more like if you inherit a well doing farm and in your greed demand to up production to gain more money and not bother to refertalize the soil your farming on leading to all the crop dying off due to malnutrition.

@dreman999: We were still seeing growth after Obama's economy had ended. Unfortunately, those gains were not sustainable.

Which ones and how? I've always heard the Trump sugar high attributed to the tax cuts rather than any deregulation measures.

That hasn't effected change though................

Dude borrowing money to increase the money you produce per year isn't sustainable. Eventually you end up in financial ruin. Just ask Greece.

If the dollar wasn't the reserve currency and America an empire, it would already be over.

There are ways out but most of them aren't pretty. The easiest way is to just make more of your currency. The problem is that it reduces the standard of living for your own population. So if you aren't getting a wage increase every year equal to inflation, then your standard of living is slowly dropping, year after year. Again America is the reserve currency so it it protected from this to a degree.

The moment this stops is the moment the US will have to default or suffer hyper inflation.

Pretty sure it did lead to a small change...

at least that is what the Trumpettes say. With people boasting about what "trump did to the economy".

@Damedius: here's the thing. That is not the issue now. It's not the case that companies are over borrowing. The issue here is money circulation. What trump has done is give Companies tax cuts and deregulated in how much money they can borrow ,quality it eco clean up and product quality. They take the extra money from that and putting it in stocks and their own pocket not considering that people have to buy stuff for there companies to stay afloat. They are just trying to make their stocks look more attractive to investors.

Issue here is were need a middle class to keep the market up because they buy goods the most and that is shinking because money is not going to them as well as it use to.

That were my farm analogy comes from. You can only have good credit if you have a sercure way to pay the credit back.....like how you can only have continued good soil if you refertilize it.

And the only sercure way for a company to pay back credit is to get the money from selling goods the a well of midle class.e

@Maroxad: which is why I want specifics spelled out to how anything trump did help the economy. Companies getting a tax cut and then use said extra money to spend more on their own stocks don't help the economy. Especially when they cut jobs after doing that.

So continuing deficits and ballooning debt aren't a problem.

I think we can safely ignore your opinion on economics.

@Damedius: they are a problem if we have no means to pay for it. Debt and credit is hand and hand in modern economic. It's not inherily bad. The profit one make made the more credit they can get later. You only have debt if you do not pay it back.

The issue is getting the money. It does not matter how good the economy is if you have no were to get money from.

Hence my point on circulation. Debt only become a problem in business if no money circulates. Aka you don't get the money back to pay the debt.

Debt only balloons if money does not circulates.

link for what?

best I can tell over the week is that nobody really gives a .....

which isnt surprising, why would someone be completely outraged by doing exactly the same thing Hillary did?