In the Matter of Restoring Internet Freedom

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#101 Treflis
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@mighty-lu-bu said:
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@mighty-lu-bu said:

Enlighten me because according to Ian Tuttle at National Review, he said that when the FCC first attempted net neutrality regulations in 2010, the FFC was only able to "cite just four examples of anti-competitive behavior, all repetitively minor." This involves ISPs either slowing down or blocking data to favor certain sites.

How is blocking or slowing competitors' products "minor"?

God, I wish the GOP were still the "competitive market" buffoons they currently pretend to be.

So from the early 90s until net neutrality was introduced, there were only 4 cases of this type of behavior? That's it?

You are looking back at a time when the Internet was relatively new as opposed to now when it's a ingrained part of both infrastructure and our daily lives. Back then any overreach would have "minor" effects for most people, nowadays it would affect to a larger degree.
For instance, say your ISP for whatever reasons decide to highly reduce the speed to or even block access to Netflix or say Steam for that matter. I'm fairly certain you would get upset about it but as it stands they are allowed to do so now.

Are they going to do that?, Well we don't know if they will or not but they have the possibility.

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#102  Edited By Lach0121
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This will not turn out well for the majority of people if they decide to exercise many measures with it. (that is what they intend to do, otherwise its not "fiscally responsible" to take to court to repeal) Just another step towards all out Corporatocracy. Sycophantic followers/supporters will blindly cheer this along, then down the line blame Obama, or the next Democratic President/administration. I am getting more, and more tired of these CON(job)servatives.

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#103  Edited By deactivated-601cef9eca9e5
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Okay, this is my stance. I don't think that ISPs should ever block content and I am aware that it has happened in the past (not frequently, but it has happened). That being said, lets say Comcast is a religious company and they want to block porn- they have the right to do that. If a company blocks certain content then I am not going to use that ISP and I am going to go somewhere else- this is where free market comes into play. I acknowledge a company's right to do this, but if they did I would not support them. This gets tricky though when ISPs have monopolies in certain areas though. In southern California Time Warner has a monopoly. In the Santa Barbara area, Cox has a monopoly. Up North Comcast has a monopoly so in these cases, it isn't like someone can just go to another ISP.

Its literally the same scenario if there was a florist who refused to cater to a certain group. That florist would lose business and people would go elsewhere (not where the Khajits live!)

I still don't think that the internet is going to change that much, but I could be wrong, but if it does, then I will just go somewhere else.

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#104 DaVillain  Moderator
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@mighty-lu-bu said:

Honestly, a lot of this net neutrality talk is nothing more than fear-mongering on the left. The internet as we know it, is not going to radically change and people need to realize that.

Net neutrality was established exactly because companies abused their power too much. Now they can legally fucks you over and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Well, quite a bit has changed over the last few years. More and more people are cutting the cord and refusing to buy there ridiculous crazy cable prices, and the big dogs Comcast/Charter etc have been bleeding money.

Now that digital distribution through the internet is becoming the monopoly on entertainment (Media/Gaming/News/Social Media etc etc) they can now hold it hostage and demand more money from companies/customers to make up for lost money on TV packages. It was actually a very smart bill setup in 2014 as the landscape began changing. It's one of the reasons why I cut my TV cord after all these years, the Internet has spoiled me that is, until NOW!

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#105 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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It's a disappointing decision. Govt. ruled in favor of companies over the consumers. I know there is always a balance, but i was in favor of net neutrality.

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#106 nepu7supastar7
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@sonicare:

It's no surprise though. If the ISP's know what's good for them, they'll keep things the way they are.

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#107 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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@nepu7supastar7 said:

@sonicare:

It's no surprise though. If the ISP's know what's good for them, they'll keep things the way they are.

Well, hopefully, if one does, then they all would probably have to follow suit. Because otherwise, everyone will flock to that one.

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#108 Serraph105
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@nepu7supastar7 said:

@sonicare:

It's no surprise though. If the ISP's know what's good for them, they'll keep things the way they are.

It will be more like airlines, one will adopt an anti-consumer measure and the other ISP's will all follow suit. The reason this will be okay will be the same as airlines, you won't have any other service to turn to, and they'll be doing the same thing anyways.

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#109 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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@Serraph105 said:
@nepu7supastar7 said:

@sonicare:

It's no surprise though. If the ISP's know what's good for them, they'll keep things the way they are.

It will be more like airlines, one will adopt an anti-consumer measure and the other ISP's will all follow suit. The reason this will be okay will be the same as airlines, you won't have any other service to turn to, and they'll be doing the same thing anyways.

Well, at least until when the next administration overturns this. :)

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#110 Treflis
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Also if you ask me, I really do think that <??????? ???????? ?? ???. ?????? ??????? ???? ??????? ?? ?????? ????? ????????>

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#111 horgen  Moderator
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@Treflis said:

Also if you ask me, I really do think that <??????? ???????? ?? ???. ?????? ??????? ???? ??????? ?? ?????? ????? ????????>

Kinda stupid way to show it really. A buffering video or link to some "blocked" content would be better. :P

@mighty-lu-bu said:

Okay, this is my stance. I don't think that ISPs should ever block content and I am aware that it has happened in the past (not frequently, but it has happened). That being said, lets say Comcast is a religious company and they want to block porn- they have the right to do that. If a company blocks certain content then I am not going to use that ISP and I am going to go somewhere else- this is where free market comes into play. I acknowledge a company's right to do this, but if they did I would not support them. This gets tricky though when ISPs have monopolies in certain areas though. In southern California Time Warner has a monopoly. In the Santa Barbara area, Cox has a monopoly. Up North Comcast has a monopoly so in these cases, it isn't like someone can just go to another ISP.

Its literally the same scenario if there was a florist who refused to cater to a certain group. That florist would lose business and people would go elsewhere (not where the Khajits live!)

I still don't think that the internet is going to change that much, but I could be wrong, but if it does, then I will just go somewhere else.

What is most scary is the changes you don't hear about. Blocking opposing views. Especially in areas with monopoly.

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#112  Edited By Treflis
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@horgen said:
@Treflis said:

Also if you ask me, I really do think that <??????? ???????? ?? ???. ?????? ??????? ???? ??????? ?? ?????? ????? ????????>

Kinda stupid way to show it really. A buffering video or link to some "blocked" content would be better. :P

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