Healthcare bill is DEAD!!

Congrats to America and Americans. The atrocity was obviously disguised as a massive tax cut to the already filthy rich 1%, and thankfully you guys got away from it being mauled. Hopefully in the future you can join the rest of the world and have a single payer system.

Personally, I won't rest easy until April 16th. That said it seems like both Paul Ryan and President Trump are done.

Absolutely hilarious. This has been their central issue for the last 7 years and when the moment finally arrived to repeal it they fail miserably. Crushing blow for the GOP but good for America because people will keep their healthcare.

The dog finally caught the bus, and now it doesn't know wtf to do. that's just embarrassing. It's just a shame the ACA can't actually be fixed or improved for at least another 4 years

Totally.

Republicans had an opportunity to prove people wrong, that they actually care about people, and could work in a bipartisan fashion...but they blew it.

Ah well, at least we have something for the time being, and it's certainly better than what we had.

another "L" for Trump and the gop... now trump is going to go for tax reform now and he will lose that. so far The Gop and trump haven't been doing a good job

HOW?!?!

It's a good thing people got tired of the elites and wanted an "average joe" sitting in the White House pushing their agenda with no political experience whatsoever. Who woulda thunk that political acumen and nuance might've possibly aided the possibilities of their policies and party being furthered? Christ, Obama managed to get this hated legislation passed facing significant obstructionism, Trump is unable to do it with majority control of the House and Senate sitting in his pocket. What a pathetic joke. Trump is chalking this up to a "learning experience". Wonderful. That's two failures down to learning while on the job: immigration, and now healthcare. I shudder to think what Trump's learning experience will be when it comes to foreign relations and crisis.

Americans have a crap system and I am good with this failure.

But I laugh at your sentiment about a massive tax cut to the already filthy rich. Filthy rich people don't care about this from a direct impact on their pocketbook perspective.... because they are filthy rich. It is like the average guy having a winning lottery ticket worth $5. Yep, change your life stuff right there.

The average Joe is just as out of touch with what filthy rich people are all about, as are the filthy rich about the average Joe.

@SUD123456: None the less, the filthy rich still lobby hard for those tax cuts. It's all the more sickening because they don't need it. Still, must be more important to them than seeing poor people get healthcare.

Trump was right. All of this winning is making my head spin!

"Art of the deal." Man's a proven negotiator.

I think he probably could have got his ugly agenda passed on healthcare had he already not been drowned in scandal, from he various cabinet and appointments and some of their ties to Russia, his executive orders, etc. I think maybe his biggest mistake strategically is not putting Chris Christie in charge of his transition, there was some bad blood there between Christie and Trump's son-in-law, for Christie prosecuting Trump's son-in-law's father, and I think Christie probably could have gotten everything rolled out quicker, smoother, and with better damage control and handling of Trump's early days in office. He's already tapped out of his goodwill with the American electorate now, Trump's days aren't just numbered, but he's going to drag down the Republican party in the process. This healthcare fiasco just shows to go how their strategy of obstruction these last few years has been just that, shallow obstruction with no motivation to sound policy making.

The lottery ticket analogy is quite good and perfectly demonstrates why Trump and the rest of the GOP are so terrible. The rich don't need more money, yet they will screw over poor people for a negligible amount more. Truly disgusting behaviour that harms millions and helps no one, thank god it was shot down this time.

Republicans fought against the ACA without realizing why they hated it. The ACA is a conservative wetdream. The very concept that a citizen must purchase insurance is beneficial for insurance companies and the marketplace. As much as I hate the concept, even I have to admit that there have been some positives from the ACA.

But Trump's and Ryan's failure shows many thing: Inexperience isn't a positive trait; threatening others fails; playing chicken can only get you so far; extremism and no compromise is a vice in politics; ignorance shows; and Republicans don't know how to govern.

In comparison Obama attempted to work with Republicans and even incorporated many Republican ideas within the ACA and it passed despite Republican opposition. It wasn't forced on the American people, it was debated for 2 years until it was passed. The AHCA was something else. It was nothing more than ACA lite that benefited the wealthiest and screwed over everyone else.

The Republican Party has lost it.

its not really about money for the rich...more about control. The way they see it, if they give up an inch, the masses will be asking for a mile the next time. The wet dream for the rich is to keep the masses poor, uneducated and distracted while they rob America and the rest of the world blind for themselves. Unfortunately its working and working well.

No I'm pretty sure it was pulled..... People seem to think this went to the floor was voted on and failed..... No it was pulled before that because they felt it wasn't the best.

Do you people just not understand how a bill works?

@WilliamRLBaker: it was pulled because it didn't have the votes.

They knew it would fail. They were told this when it was passing, its why they attempted to repeal it so many times before it was even implemented. Because once it was implemented and had been around for a couple years, people in those red states would take advantage of the program so much so that they would be against repealing it.

It was more of an attempted and failed scenario than youre wanting to suggest. While yes again it was not voted on, the reason it was not was because after determine who would vote for what, they decided to pull it because it would not pass. Who pulled what btw?

Those who "didnt think it was the best" are the one's who said they would not support it, those who attempted to implement it and/or wrote it or parts of it, felt it was the best.

You both think in very simplistic us vs them terms. Of course, there are all kinds of people at all economic strata so there are certainly some people that would conform to your worldview, but that is hardly representative as a whole.

For instance, the large majority of the rich understand that capitalism is not a zero sum game. And it isn't about their control of you, it is about whether they feel in control of their own circumstance.

The majority of CEOs of large publicly traded companies spend their time worrying: worrying about the stock price, about shareholder return, about whether the product launch will succeed, about whether they can succeed, etc.

In short, they aren't thinking about you at all. The rich think about the other rich, because that is who they are competing with in business and who they interact with socially. The poor think about the rich far more than vice versa. And of course they want tax cuts that apply to them. So do the middleclass and so do the poor.

And I laugh at the comments about poor, uneducated and distracted. Wake up to reality. Higher standards of living than ever. More educated than ever. Access to infinitely more information and in real time than ever. The rich are doing an awful job of keeping people poor, uneducated, and distracted. Compare that to 100 yrs ago, 500 yrs ago or 1,000 yrs ago.

@SUD123456: the rich ask for tax breaks that are paid for by eliminating programs for the middle class and poor. They don't try to get tax breaks that aren't offset in some way. They push for themselves to be the priority. They push nonsensical ideas about trickle down economics as a way to make it less obvious that they will be screwing the lower classes. And it does pay to have them poorly educated and easily fooled into fighting against their own interests.

That's the best the GOP could come up with after 7 years -- rather than spend that time working all they did was complain.

Hahaha.... Wow.

yeeeaahh, the rich aren't thinking about the poor at all rrriiight. As soon as "carbon tax", or "patent reform", or "public healthcare", or "tarrifs", are mentioned, they all collectively SHAT their pants in a disgusting diahrrea kind of way, then start ranting about "freedom/liberty", the "constitution" and "big government". Yeah...the rich aren't afraid of the poor...they're terrified and they will stop at nothing, and spare no expense to keep progressive candidates like Bernie Sanders from ever coming to power.

Good. Glad some republicans had the sense to say no.

We're gonna lose so much. We're gonna lose so much, we'll get tired of losing!!

Doesn't affect me but glad they're not going to mess it up. Not like they have any other good alternatives.

Maybe they will come up with a good replacement plan now.

According to both Ryan and Trump, there will be no second attempt. It really was AHCA or ACA

Wow. That's accepting defeat I guess.

Good. The bill sucked.

Every one glad Trump lost on the health care bill. It was a bad bill but the real losers were the American people. Which means we are stuck with Obama care which you folks will have to suffer with. I won't, but you will so when the cost and no heath care finally get to you, you will then realize why it has to be repealed. I am glad the Republicans didn't pass this bill because the Dems own it now lock stock and barrel. Maybe the Dems and the Republicans can come together to finally work for the American people.

you realize, that the "trumpcare" bill cut 900 billion $$ from medicaid, cut $300 billion in taxes to the top 2%, and finally threw out 27 million people off of health care. Obamacare for all its problems, was far far better than the travesty of trump care. Trump care might(?) have lowered costs for the average person but for the person paying for his bill, especially the old would have a limited amount of $$ they could deduct before being forced to pay for the rest out of pocket.

Trumpcare was a massive tax cut to the rich, the insurance industry and the pharmaceutical industry, nothing more nothing less. Democrats had nothing to do with its loss....the republicans own the senate, house, and can veto dems/fillibuster whenever they please. The problem was that republican senators were revolting against the bill on an epic scale because it would have devastated their own red state constituents.

Obamacare is far from perfect, but are you really so delusional as to think healthcare was better before it?

Single payer isn't the only good healthcare system, I don't know why everyone's always so obsessed with it...

Before we veer off from reality remember the ACA is the way it is because the Reps wouldn't work with Obama/Dems. So the problems that do exist are thanks to the Reps....also the Reps are the ones that defeated this travesty of a tax break for the wealthy over the health needs of the many.

Inside the GOP’s Health Care Debacle

Donald Trump had heard enough about policy and process. It was Thursday afternoon and members of the House Freedom Caucus were peppering the president with wonkish concerns about the American Health Care Act—the language that would leave Obamacare’s “essential health benefits” in place, the community rating provision that limited what insurers could charge certain patients, and whether the next two steps of Speaker Paul Ryan’s master plan were even feasible—when Trump decided to cut them off.

"Forget about the little shit," Trump said, according to multiple sources in the room. "Let's focus on the big picture here."

The group of roughly 30 House conservatives, gathered around a mammoth, oval-shaped conference table in the Cabinet Room of the White House, exchanged disapproving looks. Trump wanted to emphasize the political ramifications of the bill's defeat; specifically, he said, it would derail his first-term agenda and imperil his prospects for reelection in 2020. The lawmakers nodded and said they understood. And yet they were disturbed by his dismissiveness. For many of the members, the "little shit" meant the policy details that could make or break their support for the bill—and have far-reaching implications for their constituents and the country.

That's... frightening, but not surprising in the least, unfortunately :/

I am beyond angry at this entire party right now, to be honest.

**** 'em. All of them.

Trump's only attribute he brought to the political discussions was his ability.....and I don't know why it exists....to sway people to believe in him even when he's not in the least interested in helping them. Merely himself....and his family. Seriously wake the **** up America. Saddest thing is watching people excuse his ignorance, arrogance, and lack of empathy toward the country.

If he lasts without impeachment....I hope they see the error of their ways and correct it.

Click here if you wanna see what his supporters are like. These people are completely detached from reality, anything that's negative about trump is fake news...

Because a lot of us can't afford our blood pressure meds and stuff for diabeetus

In case you can't remember the Republicans met with President Obama to offer suggestion for health care and Obama's response was to ridicule Eric Cantor and tell them elections have consequences. He did not want their help and did not need it, with super majorities in the house and senate. His real task was getting enough Democrats on board to pass the bill.

If you read my post I said it was a bad bill. I also said when it becomes bad enough maybe the Democrats and Republican can finally pass a good health care bill. I really don't care because it does not affect me, but you young folks are going to have to deal with it.

You also said that the bill not passing is a loss to Americans. So which is it, was Obamacare a huge improvement over the old system and Trumps plan, or should it have been replaced with this PoS?

Obamacare isn't good, America really needs a universal healthcare system, but I cannot see the logic in saying that an objectively worse bill not passing is a loss for Americans. It's like choosing to starve because you think baked beans are crap. They are crap, but only an idiot would think having someone take away your only food would be a good thing, no matter how horrible they taste.

Sure it would be great if the US adopted universal healthcare. But who will pushfor such a legislation?

Both the democrats and republicans are in bed with the corporations.

This is particularly sad. Unless ofc, they finally decide to work together to fix it

It's probably been said to you already, but it was pulled because it did NOT have the votes. Period.

You can't be this dumb.