Do you believe the US election was rigged?

No.

Trump tried to rig the election by spending months undermining postal votes (before and after election day), but it didn't work.

No

It's just another con Donald is pulling to make money to pay some of his many debts. Luckily for him the world has no lack of idiots.

Only Trump idiots believe it

In terms of voter fraud? No. High risk and high effort to get something from it.

Election fraud? Well how long are the queues in different areas? How many obstacles to voting are there?

CNN seems to think it's very easy to do, and anybody inside or outside the system can do it. Keep in mind in the second video, those are Dominion machines and we have confirmed thousands of votes have switched from Trump to Biden. Also the feed of raw vote counts uploaded from the Michigan election were showing votes in fractionals, these weren't percentages but actual vote tallies, you don't get fractionals from real votes but from algorithms, and mathematically speaking those 170,000 over night vote dumps all for Biden? All the machines in those precincts that did that, combined, couldn't have counted 170,000 votes in such a short period of time.

You have HUNDREDS of sworn affidavits signed by people who face jail time if any of the information they sign is inaccurate which is all considered evidence in court.

You really have to be a moron if you think four states, all with Trump leading by hundreds of thousands of votes all stopped counting at the same time, sent poll watchers and other people home, then all four states each dropped the 100,000+ votes they needed, overnight, all for Biden, and it all happened to be just enough for him to win those states, and all four of the states used the same machines that CNN reported a few years ago could have it's vote count adjusted, and fabricated as the operators see fit.

No I don't think this election was rigged. That should not even be in dispute. I do think we need to stop disenfranchisement and gerrymandering.........the tools of the less popular party.

at yet eton every court case his lawyer has brought all but one has been dismiss do to lack evidence . before you try. a few of them are one trump put in their.

Every court case? Do you have any idea how many ongoing court cases there actually are? And you knew well in advance it was heading to the Supreme Court.

I don't think they have any left. What court cases are you talking about. He lost close to 40.

So tell me, when both CNN and NBC ran pieces on Dominion software and shown how quickly, and easily machines can be hacked to edit the vote totals, and claimed if it was so easy, then it is already being done... were they lying about it when they published those videos in 2017?

A simple yes or no would suffice.

3 years ago? If true, and you haven't show that, that's enough time to fix. Homeland and the Justice Department said the election was safe. Period.

I showed you the CNN video, do you want to see the NBC video as well? So the question is, were they lying, or weren't they? Did CNN fake that whole event they recorded and published? And the states where these issues with Dominion software have occurred haven't done anything to remedy it since.

You realize that with the mathematical/scientific data, hundreds of signed affidavits, and statistics provide more evidence than what is typically needed to win a murder trial, and when the case comes to the Supreme Court, they don't even have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, which they've already done, but merely that fraud was more likely to have occurred, than not.

Again, four states, all with trump having MASSIVE leads shut down counting, sent people home, then resumed in secrecy and dropped ridiculous amounts of ballots all for Biden at a pace the machines weren't even capable of, and you honestly believe that is on the up and up? There are experts in cyber security being used as witnesses to attest to this.

So was CNN lying then, or now about election security?

I'm sure other countries such as Russia, are doing their best to try and spread misinformation, but there's no evidence for voter fraud.

Trump, on the other hand, is currently trying to overturn democracy in real time, and did/is trying to rig the election both before and after the fact.

so which was it?

1) hundreds of thousands of fraudulent votes were brought in in the dark of night, in state-marked vehicles mind you ( genius level conspiracy there.... ) and counted while no one was watching.

OR

2) the machines were set up to miscount and weigh biden votes heavier?


if you have access to one method, you don't need the other.


that's the problem with conspiracy thinking. you get so sucked in that EVERYTHING is part of the master plot to the point where logic breaks down. you see the same nonsense with 9/11.


some things are just so shocking to people that it breaks their brains and the ONLY solution they can see anymore is some grand convoluted conspiracy.

regarding the affidavits. a sworn affidavit doesn't prove that something is true. just that the person saying it thinks it's true.

CAN a machine be hacked? of course. any computerized system is vulnerable. it's a tradeoff of the expertise, resources, and access a potential hacker has vs. the speed and efficiency the computerized system affords you. just because something CAN be tampered, doesn't mean it was.

For the purposes of this poll, I voted no.

But I do think the election was rigged. With some states having needless obstacles towards the path of casting your vote. These votes are what I would consider examples of Election Fraud. Thankfully, thanks to the efforts of politicians like Stacey Abrams, the elections have been fairer than ever.

Saying that something can happen doesn't mean that it did, and the Georgia and Wisconsin recounts prove that no votes were switched or added.

As for the affidavits, they haven't been presented in court, and even if they were that doesn't prevent lying. A lot of them are just confirmation bias BS too.

Talking to you cultists if pointless though. Even if we did the nationwide handcount you're asking for, you wouldn't accept the results.

So you are not addressing the request for evidence..........because you have none.

Mail in voting per the GOP were not allowed to start mail in counts early. Which means his lead evaporated as votes were all counted.

Well yeah

It's always in the Republicans best interest if people don't vote

Nope, but we got close to a rigged election, if Trump had his way.

Of course it was rigged.

Trump received over 74 million votes. Yet we know that potential Trump supporters are his family, the Hunt brothers, Republican officials and their families, mega church frauds and their delusional evangelical cultist followers, and approx. 6% of the rest of the population that run FEMA camps, are paid bloggers, end of the world survivalists, or are uneducated white males between 20-50 with low IQs wearing stained wife beaters.

In short, the maximum votes he could have received is 50 million max.

We also know that Q from QAnon is Trump himself. Only came to be after he was elected. Has been quiet since his defeat.

And we know that Trump 'supporters' with their placards and QAnon signs are paid actors.

We know the Hunt brothers pay these actors with money funneled through the NRA and that Wayne LaPierre improperly accounts for this money as 'clothing expenses'.

As a side note, we know that LaPierre was chosen to lead the NRA because of his French last name which signals the treasonous defeat/surrender that Trump plans on his second term inauguration date. The day on which the US will surrender to the UN.

So of course the election was rigged and thank Mohammed that the original Captain America, Joe Biden, was available to come out of retirement to save America from Rudy Giuliani, whose makeup failure clearly revealed that he is in fact the leader of the Lizardman Army.

This is still more logical than Powell's ramblings.

fyi, as late as 2018, two thirds of Dems thought Russia changed vote tallies in the 2016 election, despite zero evidence.

Lmfao, not 170,000+ to 0 kid, and they sure as hell didn't count them all faster than the machines were capable. If you think this election was even remotely legitimate, you're lying to yourself. The left never cared for "democracy" or legitimate elections, they just want their side to win and couldn't care less how they do it.

I posted two videos for you to watch. You ignored both, including the one from CNN that you're going to pretend doesn't exist so you can continue to push todays narrative that suddenly voting machines cannot be hacked.

Yeah, they went from telling everyone how easily elections can be hacked and how easily the machines to do so can change votes, and a few years later those same people are now telling us that's impossible. And they wonder why they are called fake news.

LOL crazy-town is still at it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs1r_eXuspM&ab_channel=RightSideBroadcastingNetwork

how many embarrassing defeats until it sinks in?

Prepare for the mental gymnastics olympics. The only difference is that dems didn't have "extremism experts" saying they were undermining democracy, and nobody felt like fact checking the matter. They very conveniently let the conspiracy run rampant.

No. It wasn't rigged. If it was rigged, they could prove it in court and they've regularly shown that they can't. It's easier to lie in the public space about voter fraud than do the same thing in court. The threat of jail time for lying makes people a little more honest there.

I'm guessing you're very young or you wouldn't throw the word kid around when confronted with facts. FYI per the government 95% of the vote was paper.

Projection doesn't make you right. The left has never delegitimized an election but the right does. Same side that gerrymanders and disenfranchises voters. Videos from three years ago? Why wasn't your side whining during the mid terms and the primary?

Hundreds of sworn affidavits and voting software used in the confirmed Venezuelan election fraud are proof there’s fraud.

It’s one thing to believe there’s not enough fraud to prove a change in the election - it’s another level of stupid to believe there’s none.

Ask yourself. Why do voting machines need to be connected to the internet? How does the software engineer of said software say he’ll do everything in his power for Trump not to win not warrant major speculation?

None of that is true though dude.

@LJS9502_basic: My point proven.

What is the link to Venezuela?

No your point is not proven. The courts. The federal government. The state governments ALL have said their is not and was no widespread voter fraud. Those two things you mentioned were checked and they were false.

@LJS9502_basic: ‘no widespread voter fraud’

@LJS9502_basic: ‘None of that is true though dude.’

So which do you believe then because you contradicted yourself here.

@horgen: ‘What is the link to Venezuela?’

Can’t. You won’t like the source and you’ll lock the thread. But it’s out there if you care to really look into it.

The Venezuela and affidavits. But I'll give you a chance here. Link to these sworn affidavits and the IT testing on Venzuela.

Ah so it doesn't exist.

Edit: You could spell it out. Like the pathway for the link between dominion voting and venezuela

Nope, trump tried to rig it but failed fortunately.

@LJS9502_basic: Why bother? You’ll just think the source is fake and a mod will lock the thread.

Ah yes the old I know the facts but I can't produce them so I'll pretend I can't. How sad.

Been debunked.

@LJS9502_basic: Because you don’t do it. Every. Darn. Time.

No I post links. You never have though. I'm still waiting. If your stance is true there should be lots of links backing you up. You're on..........

I know. Posted links to do so twice already I think.

@horgen: Again, I can’t. A mod will lock the thread if they don’t like the source. Not saying you will - but mods do it often here. Exclusively to conservative sources.

@LJS9502_basic: You can click my name and see i link plenty of sources.