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#1  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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Well if voting doesn't get cancelled like everything else are you going to vote?

For me I think I reached a boiling point after I saw what the establishment Democrats did to Bernie Sanders by the constant smearing especially from the mainstream media like MSNBC and CNN it kinda of made me sick. Biden is a out of touch old man that can barely not FK up a sentence he also has no shame in taking corporate money. As for Trump he is trash and always will be but I just don't care anymore. This country would rather have corporate pigs in office then someone that would want to fight for them. Well I say good luck beating Trump with senile Biden the presidential debates should be hilarious the dems will reap what they sow maybe the Baby Boomers can turn on their record players for good luck :)

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#2 deactivated-5fab1400b2fcc
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Yes. I will vote Democrat in all races but President where I will write in Bernie Sanders. The GOP lost my vote forever.

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#3 jeezers
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In voting straight R and I dont even like the Republicans but the Democrats disgust me more.

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#4 dave123321
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Probably not for the president

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#5 LJS9502_basic
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Yep. Always do. And the answers in this thread are just sad. But you get what you deserve and several of you seem to deserve trump.

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#6 dave123321
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Listen listen listen

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#7 dave123321
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Biden is a bad candidate and would be bad for progressive causes and progressive progress

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#8 dave123321
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I’ll vote for someone probably but it’s not going to be the dem candidate

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#9 dave123321
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Also to be clear it’s not going to be for trump

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#10 deactivated-5fab1400b2fcc
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@jeezers: How? After all the GOP has done since 2016 and the damage this year, how can anybody support them?

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#11 jeezers
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@thegreatchomp: i want to say the same thing to you about the democrats, the DNC can kiss my ass

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#12 dave123321
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I’m voting with my heart and brain

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#14  Edited By jeezers
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@thegreatchomp: Trump Russia Collusion: LIE

Ukraine 2 electric Boogaloo: LIE

Democrats impeached a guy with 0 evidence of any crime

Lets start there

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#15  Edited By deactivated-5fab1400b2fcc
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@jeezers: Yeah, you are just messing around. My bad, I should have figured that out.

And Ukraine wasn’t a lie, they had plenty of evidence to back it up. It was the Republicans who covered it up and refused to cooperate.

FYI, Russia wasn’t a lie either.

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#16 jeezers
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@thegreatchomp: wasnt charged with a crime!!!

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#17 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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I don't know why people care to argue with Trump supporters. It's like going to NK and try to convince a supporter that the great leader didn't come to this world ridding the back of an unicorn.

That being said, it's gonna be the worst candidates ever. The only salvation would be Biden having a solid vice and Trump ditching Pence and getting a human instead.

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#18 LJS9502_basic
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@jeezers said:

@thegreatchomp: Trump Russia Collusion: LIE

Ukraine 2 electric Boogaloo: LIE

Democrats impeached a guy with 0 evidence of any crime

Lets start there

Those weren't lies. You are just refusing the facts. The Russians did interfere in the elections and only a fool doesn't believe trump knew about it.

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#19 Serraph105
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I'll be voting Biden come November (unless something crazy happens) as well as a straight democrat ticket for all the other races as well.

People who are saying that they won't vote Biden in November are acting like children and better not be complaining about Trump for the next four years, or the complete conservative takeover of the supreme court for the next 20-30 years and all the ramifications that come from it.

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#20 Gaming-Planet
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Going to vote every asshole out, D or R.

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#21 plageus900
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To the OP, I'm sorry but Bernie was not fighting for me.

But yes I will be voting this year. Biden for president and maybe a mixed Democrat/Republican ticket for everything else.

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#22 HoolaHoopMan
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I'll be voting for the democratic nominee. Voting 3rd party? Might as well wipe your ass with the ballot. I have more than a cursory understanding of our election system to know it's wasted.

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#23 dave123321
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I don’t even complain about trump now

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#24 Jacanuk
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@warmblur said:

Well if voting doesn't get cancelled like everything else are you going to vote?

For me I think I reached a boiling point after I saw what the establishment Democrats did to Bernie Sanders by the constant smearing especially from the mainstream media like MSNBC and CNN it kinda of made me sick. Biden is a out of touch old man that can barely not FK up a sentence he also has no shame in taking corporate money. As for Trump he is trash and always will be but I just don't care anymore. This country would rather have corporate pigs in office then someone that would want to fight for them. Well I say good luck beating Trump with senile Biden the presidential debates should be hilarious the dems will reap what they sow maybe the Baby Boomers can turn on their record players for good luck :)

Of course, I will vote. if you don´t vote you lose all right to complain.

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#25 deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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@Serraph105 said:

I'll be voting Biden come November (unless something crazy happens) as well as a straight democrat ticket for all the other races as well.

People who are saying that they won't vote Biden in November are acting like children and better not be complaining about Trump for the next four years,or the complete conservative takeover of the supreme court for the next 20-30 years and all the ramifications that come from it.

There's not much difference when it comes to polices between Trump and Biden he is more right wing then Democrat he's also a big pharma bitch and extremely out of touch.

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#26 dave123321
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Yes. Not voting for Biden because of policy. Trump isn’t going to be better in this regard of course but at a certain point you have to ask yourself at what point do you stop making bad choices.

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#27 LJS9502_basic
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@dave123321 said:

Yes. Not voting for Biden because of policy. Trump isn’t going to be better in this regard of course but at a certain point you have to ask yourself at what point do you stop making bad choices.

You only a choice of two......

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#28 deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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@Jacanuk said:
@warmblur said:

Well if voting doesn't get cancelled like everything else are you going to vote?

For me I think I reached a boiling point after I saw what the establishment Democrats did to Bernie Sanders by the constant smearing especially from the mainstream media like MSNBC and CNN it kinda of made me sick. Biden is a out of touch old man that can barely not FK up a sentence he also has no shame in taking corporate money. As for Trump he is trash and always will be but I just don't care anymore. This country would rather have corporate pigs in office then someone that would want to fight for them. Well I say good luck beating Trump with senile Biden the presidential debates should be hilarious the dems will reap what they sow maybe the Baby Boomers can turn on their record players for good luck :)

Of course, I will vote. if you don´t vote you lose all right to complain.

That is a dumb rule lol but regardless it's a matter of principle that's why I didn't vote in 2016 both where horrible candidates. It's cool though I promised myself I will stop following politics in the future because it's a worthless stress that I don't need in my life just like the way social media was.

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#29 Jacanuk
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@warmblur said:

That is a dumb rule lol but regardless it's a matter of principle that's why I didn't vote in 2016 both where horrible candidates. It's cool though I promised myself I will stop following politics in the future because it's a worthless stress that I don't need in my life just like the way social media was.

Considering that Trump won by mere 70k

Are you still convinced that not voting is a viable option? if you dislike both candidates.

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#30 dave123321
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Oh hey vote for this guy even if you think he won’t fight or stand up for your principles because hey at least he ain’t trump. Forget about the fact that he won’t make the meaningful change you want and that business will continue as usual. Just come on vote for us. Come on

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#31 DrLostRib
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it would seem dumb not to

Also, it's super easy for me anyways

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#32 dave123321
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@LJS9502_basic: A choice of two yes but both choices cross the line of what I would deem acceptable to support. I don’t care if trump wins again because Biden winning for me isn’t a much better option. That’s really the main point I want to make clear. For me personally I feel it’s no great loss to have trump over biden

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#33 Serraph105
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@warmblur said:
@Serraph105 said:

I'll be voting Biden come November (unless something crazy happens) as well as a straight democrat ticket for all the other races as well.

People who are saying that they won't vote Biden in November are acting like children and better not be complaining about Trump for the next four years,or the complete conservative takeover of the supreme court for the next 20-30 years and all the ramifications that come from it.

There's not much difference when it comes to polices between Trump and Biden he is more right wing then Democrat he's also a big pharma bitch and extremely out of touch.

Trump has spent his time trying to take healthcare away from people, as have republicans. Everyone remembers John McCain stopping it from happening. Biden wants to undo what Trump has done to Obamacare, and make it go further. He should be advocating M$A, but that's a huge difference between the two.

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#34 deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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@dave123321 said:

@LJS9502_basic: A choice of two yes but both choices cross the line of what I would deem acceptable to support. I don’t care if trump wins again because Biden winning for me isn’t a much better option. That’s really the main point I want to make clear. For me personally I feel it’s no great loss to have trump over biden

Same

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#35 LJS9502_basic
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@Serraph105 said:
@warmblur said:

There's not much difference when it comes to polices between Trump and Biden he is more right wing then Democrat he's also a big pharma bitch and extremely out of touch.

Trump has spent his time trying to take healthcare away from people, as have republicans. Everyone remembers John McCain stopping it from happening. Biden wants to undo what Trump has done to Obamacare, and make it go further. He should be advocating M$A, but that's a huge difference between the two.

He always to cut social security, medicare, and Medicaid next term. Sometimes you have to look at the policies that will be enacted and decide to live with the lesser of two evils.

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#36 LJS9502_basic
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@warmblur said:
@dave123321 said:

@LJS9502_basic: A choice of two yes but both choices cross the line of what I would deem acceptable to support. I don’t care if trump wins again because Biden winning for me isn’t a much better option. That’s really the main point I want to make clear. For me personally I feel it’s no great loss to have trump over biden

Same

Then neither of you are paying attention.

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#37 dave123321
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I pay attention plenty

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#38 redviperofdorne
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@warmblur: First time around, You could make that excuse that everyone was working against Bernie because it was mostly true. I won't agree with this time around. Bernie had 4 years to build a coalition. Instead, He did the polar opposite. He isolated himself from everyone with his "Me vs Everyone Else" mentality. Warren offered to drop out before Super Tuesday and endorse him if they were on the same ticket, He said no. Once he lost Super Tuesday and the following primaries, He tried to win her back and it didn't work out. Same with Tulsi, who supported Bernie the first time around and really kind of killed her career for Sanders. He acted as if she didn't exist until the very end and she ended up endorsing Joe.

Declining Warren was a stupid move because it cost him unifying progressive support and would have at least bailed him out a bit after all the Democrats dropped out to rally around Joe. Instead, He acted as if he didn't need her and that lead to his ultimate undoing.

Bernie also expected the youth vote to save him again and it didn't. He underestimated the strong support that Biden had from black voters and voters 45+. And let's face facts, Biden is a vastly superior candidate to Clinton. The people love Joe, They hated Clinton. That, at least IMO, is why Bernie did so well in the first election. Clinton had the support of the DNC, the establishment and I feel a lot of people voted against her out of spite. With Biden, Everyone wanted him to run in 2016 and let's be honest, if he did, Bernie wouldn't even be a factor in that race. It would have been all Biden vs Clinton.

At the end of the day, Bernie has no one to blame but himself and even then he won't accept that. He will blame everyone and their mother for his failure. And to answer your question: Yes, I am voting in the NY primary for Joe. My original choice was Andrew Yang. I want a candidate who can unite people and save our nation, Biden is that candidate. Bernie did everything to show the people he isn't.

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#39 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Mail in ballot, of course.

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#40 KungfuKitten
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So in the USA do you only get to vote between the two candidates pushed forward by the GOP/DNC or do you get to vote between them all?

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#41 LJS9502_basic
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@KungfuKitten said:

So in the USA do you only get to vote between the two candidates pushed forward by the GOP/DNC or do you get to vote between them all?

You can write in anyone you want...….

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#42  Edited By KungfuKitten
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@LJS9502_basic: Ah cool. That is better. But I guess because of the support and publicity the... ones they pick get, it would be very tough for someone else to even stand a chance?

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#43 LJS9502_basic
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@KungfuKitten said:

@LJS9502_basic: Ah cool. That is better. But I guess because of the support and publicity the... frontrunners get, it would be very tough for someone else to even stand a chance?

No chance really. But you can do it if you want.

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#44 blaznwiipspman1
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After how bad this moron botched Corona virus, it just doesn't make sense to vote for him again.

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#45  Edited By KungfuKitten
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@KungfuKitten said:

@LJS9502_basic: Ah cool. That is better. But I guess because of the support and publicity the... frontrunners get, it would be very tough for someone else to even stand a chance?

No chance really. But you can do it if you want.

Interesting. I still understand very little about the election process in the USA. It seems at the same time needlessly complex and oversimplified in parts.

I'm taking a speed course. I understand Congress, House of Representatives, Senate, Federal government, States, House of Delegates, Districts, two party system running get-togethers, presidential candidates and their vices, campaigns, polling stations and then it gets a little fuzzy.

So you don't vote for president, per se. Or your votes don't necessarily count. It's the Electoral College that actually has the power to elect a president. But they are tied in most states by state law to vote for the most voted on candidate in that state? So you're not really voting for president but rather for the electors that you hope to see vote for you, but effectively in most states you are kind of just voting for the president that you want? I am going to have to read a little more about it. It's very different from anything I'm used to.

It's almost like they took the part where people would vote for a president, and then said: "Let's not do that really..." I guess because the people are not distributed evenly across the states it makes sense perhaps to have a representative step in the process? Much like in the House of Representatives that is based on population count? Is that the function of the Electoral College? To basically be a temporary House of Representatives solely to determine the president? Then why do they need to be actual people?

Also... do you vote for your representative (every 2 years), and for people in the senate (every 2 years staggered) in the same year as you vote for the ticket/part of their slate in the general election?

I'm going to have a lot of questions XD

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https://theintercept.com/2020/03/24/joe-biden-metoo-times-up/

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#47  Edited By mrbojangles25
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Yeah, I'm writing in Giant Asteroid. I'm tempted to not vote because, my god, there is just no good choice. Three old white men with no business running a country in the 21st century.

Giant Asteroid 2020! Save us all from ourselves and crash.

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#48 deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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@mrbojangles25 said:

Yeah, I'm writing in Giant Asteroid. I'm tempted to not vote because, my god, there is just no good choice. Three old white men with no business running a country in the 21st century.

Giant Asteroid 2020!Save us all from ourselves and crash.

Sweet relief

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@jeezers: ‘@thegreatchomp: wasnt charged with a crime!!!’

That’s because there was no crime. The Steel Dossier was complete fiction.