@Jacanuk said:
Calling them horrible people is almost as stupid as Trump calling some of the Charlottesville "very fine people"
Also, I never deflected just pointed out that this guy clearly was an insane nutjob and calling him a Nazi is misleading when this guy hated everyone on both sides.
But as long as we agree to condemn both actions then I think we are off to a good start.
I'm not sure if you've ever read a history book in your life, but Nazis hated Jews. Hating Jews for being Jewish is by it's very definition Nazism. All the other fascist associations of the Nazi party are secondary to their hatred of the Jews. Hitler gained power because he was able to convince the German people that the Jews were the problem for all their woes and needed to be eliminated.
He (Bowers) purposefully targeted and killed 11 people for being Jewish, including a Holocaust survivor in a Jewish holy place.
Then the literal President of the United States comes out in response by saying "it wouldn't have happened if they had armed guards". He didn't even condemn the man's actions, or make a poignant speech live on television about the atrocity he committed. He just ejaculated a meaningless and downright insulting statement that only the NRA would have been proud to say.
Focusing on Antifa for making threats against someone, or even causing a riot during a Nazi demonstration isn't even remotely similar to a white nationalist pig who commits a literal act of terror against a specific group of people merely for being of a particular ethnic background.
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I have different levels of condemnation that I'm capable of. Someone threatening another person or persons, yes, it's a crime and one deserving of the appropriate criminal charges. Someone walking into a mother fucking synagogue, expressing the belief that all Jews must die, then opening fire on worshipers during prayers on the holiest day of the week for them... that's condemnation I don't even think has a "level". That's just abhorrence of the nth degree.
I'm not sure why US conservatives, especially people who lived through World War II or had parents that did, aren't crawling out of the woodwork to paint this man as a monster.
Meanwhile, you've got an actual Trump supporter sending pipe bombs through the mail to Democrats... but Antifa is the problem.
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