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#1  Edited By Silentchief
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What will make them happy?

Second link

Biden's problem now, wonder how he handles it.

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@silentchief said:

What will make them happy?

Biden's problem now, wonder how he handles it.

Like a rational adult?

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#3  Edited By Silentchief
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@daredevils2k said:
@silentchief said:

What will make them happy?

Biden's problem now, wonder how he handles it.

Like a rational adult?

So just act like they don't Exist?

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@silentchief: I remember that debate - it was hilarious watching Trump fail back then.

Anyway, a few minutes of Googling suggests Biden was correct - "Antifa" is a loose movement of different left-wing groups who are opposed to facism. It isn't a single organisation. So "Antifa" doesn't exist as an actual group.

It certainly isn't an organised terrorist movement - that's just something Trump invented to turn his political opponents into villians.

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@Planeforger: Its a group. Thats like saying white supremacists aren't a group because their made up of multiple groups. I'm sorry but Biden looked like a clown then. If they continue to be a problem he needs to call them out.

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#6  Edited By firedrakes
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@silentchief: nah your just deflecting now. nothing more

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@firedrakes: I created the topic? Who's deflecting?

Do you even know what that means?

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@diefthyntis: They have various leader's. That sounds like an organization. Are you saying they are not organized enough to be a problem?

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Where does it say Antifa? And Fox? Lol. Try a real source!

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We all knew Trump was behind the Antifa all this time. 4D chess!

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@silentchief said:

@Planeforger: Its a group. Thats like saying white supremacists aren't a group because their made up of multiple groups. I'm sorry but Biden looked like a clown then. If they continue to be a problem he needs to call them out.

Are you pro or anti-facism? If you say "Anti-facist", then congratulations! YOU'RE ANTIFA. There's no group called "Antifa", Biden is correct.

"White Supremacist's" arent a group, I don't think anyone claiming a category comprised of many groups....say the KKK (Which definitely IS an organization) is a group

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@Planeforger: Its a group. Thats like saying white supremacists aren't a group because their made up of multiple groups. I'm sorry but Biden looked like a clown then. If they continue to be a problem he needs to call them out.

Are you pro or anti-facism?

Would it matter if you call everyone you disagree with a Fascists? Like they often do?

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I wonder which account got locked out that we have to put up with this kind of shitposting.

There's nothing to indicate there is antifa ideology behind these specific protests and as yet another reminder antifa is not an organization of any kind.

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@Vaasman said:

I wonder which account got locked out that we have to put up with this kind of shitposting.

There's nothing to indicate there is antifa ideology behind these protests and as yet another reminder antifa is not an organization of any kind.

Accuse me of shit posting then you precede to shitpost. So who was responsible for BLM and Antifa riots earlier this year? Was it just a bunch of random individuals who just happened to group up?

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@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

I wonder which account got locked out that we have to put up with this kind of shitposting.

There's nothing to indicate there is antifa ideology behind these protests and as yet another reminder antifa is not an organization of any kind.

I am a gigantic shitposter

If you don't want to be accused of shit posting, don't shitpost. Post where the evidence is that anyone in your linked protests shares the antifa ideology. Otherwise that's exactly what this is.

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@silentchief said:
@Ring_of_fire said:

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@silentchief said:

@Planeforger: Its a group. Thats like saying white supremacists aren't a group because their made up of multiple groups. I'm sorry but Biden looked like a clown then. If they continue to be a problem he needs to call them out.

Are you pro or anti-facism?

Would it matter if you call everyone you disagree with a Fascists? Like they often do?

It's very telling that the first thing you do is deflect.

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#18  Edited By Silentchief
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@horgen said:
@silentchief said:
@Ring_of_fire said:

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@silentchief said:

@Planeforger: Its a group. Thats like saying white supremacists aren't a group because their made up of multiple groups. I'm sorry but Biden looked like a clown then. If they continue to be a problem he needs to call them out.

Are you pro or anti-facism?

Would it matter if you call everyone you disagree with a Fascists? Like they often do?

It's very telling that the first thing you do is deflect.

What's even more telling is none of you can answer the question. Most of you have just defended them.

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@silentchief said:
@horgen said:
@silentchief said:
@Ring_of_fire said:

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@silentchief said:

@Planeforger: Its a group. Thats like saying white supremacists aren't a group because their made up of multiple groups. I'm sorry but Biden looked like a clown then. If they continue to be a problem he needs to call them out.

Are you pro or anti-facism?

Would it matter if you call everyone you disagree with a Fascists? Like they often do?

It's very telling that the first thing you do is deflect.

What's even more telling is none of you can answer the question. You have spent every post defending them.

Which question?

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#20  Edited By Silentchief
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@Vaasman said:
@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

I wonder which account got locked out that we have to put up with this kind of shitposting.

There's nothing to indicate there is antifa ideology behind these protests and as yet another reminder antifa is not an organization of any kind.

I am a gigantic shitposter

If you don't want to be accused of shit posting, don't shitpost. Post where the evidence is that anyone in your linked protests shares the antifa ideology. Otherwise that's exactly what this is.Does this work?

Activists sprayed graffiti on the ICE building,

That sound like right wing protest to you?

What does the picture look like to you?

Or are you still going to defend your comrades?

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#21 Silentchief
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@horgen said:
@silentchief said:
@horgen said:
@silentchief said:
@Ring_of_fire said:

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Are you pro or anti-facism?

Would it matter if you call everyone you disagree with a Fascists? Like they often do?

It's very telling that the first thing you do is deflect.

What's even more telling is none of you can answer the question. You have spent every post defending them.

Which question?

How should Biden handle them?

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SilentChief is just an alt account troll.

he's also constantly getting facts wrong and making baseless claims. don't feed him.

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Well so much for the claims Biden is far left when the far left hates him lol.

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@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

If you don't want to be accused of shit posting, don't shitpost. Post where the evidence is that anyone in your linked protests shares the antifa ideology. Otherwise that's exactly what this is.Does this work?

Activists sprayed graffiti on the ICE building,

That sound like right wing protest to you?

What does the picture look like to you?

Or are you still going to defend your comrades?

Antifa isn't strictly left or right, it's literally anti-facism and as such isn't constrained by the same concepts. Negativity against ICE doesn't translate to antifa, the ICE organization is extremely corrupt and immoral regardless of ideology.

Post actual evidence or accept you're a shitposter. Which one of these protests was enacted with anyone evoking anti-facism, show your work.

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Well so much for the claims Biden is far left when the far left hates him lol.

I don't know a single left person that actually likes Biden, and I know a lot of people. Now there are certainly hopefuls for Biden and hopeful for being the right choice over Trump, but that's not quite the level of support that many critics to the left like to proclaim.

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@jaydan said:
@zaryia said:

Well so much for the claims Biden is far left when the far left hates him lol.

I don't know a single left person that actually likes Biden, and I know a lot of people. Now there are certainly hopefuls for Biden and hopeful for being the right choice over Trump, but that's not quite the level of support that many critics to the left like to proclaim.

LOL anecdotal evidence.

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@jaydan said:
@zaryia said:

Well so much for the claims Biden is far left when the far left hates him lol.

I don't know a single left person that actually likes Biden, and I know a lot of people. Now there are certainly hopefuls for Biden and hopeful for being the right choice over Trump, but that's not quite the level of support that many critics to the left like to proclaim.

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@silentchief said:
@Ring_of_fire said:

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@silentchief said:

@Planeforger: Its a group. Thats like saying white supremacists aren't a group because their made up of multiple groups. I'm sorry but Biden looked like a clown then. If they continue to be a problem he needs to call them out.

Are you pro or anti-facism?

Would it matter if you call everyone you disagree with a Fascists? Like they often do?

See edit. I didn't call you a Fascist.

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@Ring_of_fire said:
@silentchief said:
@Ring_of_fire said:

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@silentchief said:

@Planeforger: Its a group. Thats like saying white supremacists aren't a group because their made up of multiple groups. I'm sorry but Biden looked like a clown then. If they continue to be a problem he needs to call them out.

Are you pro or anti-facism?

Would it matter if you call everyone you disagree with a Fascists? Like they often do?

See edit. I didn't call you a Fascist.

I'm not saying you did. I'm talking about Antifa in general. They call many people they disagree with Fascists who are in fact not Fascists.

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#31  Edited By Silentchief
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@Vaasman said:
@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

If you don't want to be accused of shit posting, don't shitpost. Post where the evidence is that anyone in your linked protests shares the antifa ideology. Otherwise that's exactly what this is.Does this work?

Activists sprayed graffiti on the ICE building,

That sound like right wing protest to you?

What does the picture look like to you?

Or are you still going to defend your comrades?

Antifa isn't strictly left or right, it's literally anti-facism and as such isn't constrained by the same concepts. Negativity against ICE doesn't translate to antifa, the ICE organization is extremely corrupt and immoral regardless of ideology.

Post actual evidence or accept you're a shitposter. Which one of these protests was enacted with anyone evoking anti-facism, show your work.

I guess the article that mentioned the mob chanting " Antifa Antifa Antifa " wasn't good enough.

Seriously how much time can you spend defending/ denying a groups actions?

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@LJS9502_basic: Take personal experiences as you please and with a grain of salt. But the fact is: more people sided with Biden, not because they like him, but because he was the ticket to defeating Trump.

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@ogvampire said:

SilentChief is just an alt account troll.

he's also constantly getting facts wrong and making baseless claims. don't feed him.

I have literally provided 3 articles and pictures with evidence.

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@silentchief said:
@daredevils2k said:
@silentchief said:

What will make them happy?

Biden's problem now, wonder how he handles it.

Like a rational adult?

So just act like they don't Exist?

UH? oh I'm sorry , I forget your stuck in the trump era, were Trump and his whole admin just act like a pandemic doesn't exist. but what I meant by my post is allowing the Justice system do its work.

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@daredevils2k said:
@silentchief said:
@daredevils2k said:
@silentchief said:

What will make them happy?

Biden's problem now, wonder how he handles it.

Like a rational adult?

So just act like they don't Exist?

UH? oh I'm sorry , I forget your stuck in the trump era, were Trump and his whole admin just act like a pandemic doesn't exist. but what I meant by my post is allowing the Justice system do its work.

Biden said this in October...

Your whataboutisms don't really make sense. If Trump acted like the Pandemic didn't exist why do we have a Vaccine now?

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@silentchief said:
@daredevils2k said:
@silentchief said:
@daredevils2k said:
@silentchief said:

What will make them happy?

Biden's problem now, wonder how he handles it.

Like a rational adult?

So just act like they don't Exist?

UH? oh I'm sorry , I forget your stuck in the trump era, were Trump and his whole admin just act like a pandemic doesn't exist. but what I meant by my post is allowing the Justice system do its work.

Biden said this in October...

Your whataboutisms don't really make sense. If Trump acted like the Pandemic didn't exist why do we have a Vaccine now?

easy, because of science. I thought you knew?

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@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

Antifa isn't strictly left or right, it's literally anti-facism and as such isn't constrained by the same concepts. Negativity against ICE doesn't translate to antifa, the ICE organization is extremely corrupt and immoral regardless of ideology.

Post actual evidence or accept you're a shitposter. Which one of these protests was enacted with anyone evoking anti-facism, show your work.

I guess the article that mentioned the mob chanting " Antifa Antifa Antifa " wasn't good enough.

Seriously how much time can you spend defending/ denying a groups actions?

Literally none of the articles you linked can demonstrate any such chant, only chants against Biden and Trump. And NYP isn't fit to wipe my ass as a source.

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@Vaasman said:
@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

Antifa isn't strictly left or right, it's literally anti-facism and as such isn't constrained by the same concepts. Negativity against ICE doesn't translate to antifa, the ICE organization is extremely corrupt and immoral regardless of ideology.

Post actual evidence or accept you're a shitposter. Which one of these protests was enacted with anyone evoking anti-facism, show your work.

I guess the article that mentioned the mob chanting " Antifa Antifa Antifa " wasn't good enough.

Seriously how much time can you spend defending/ denying a groups actions?

Literally none of the articles you linked can demonstrate any such chant, only chants against Biden and Trump. And NYP isn't fit to wipe my ass as a source.

The NYP article did but since you disregarded that link let's try video evidence and see how deep your denial goes.

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@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:
@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

Antifa isn't strictly left or right, it's literally anti-facism and as such isn't constrained by the same concepts. Negativity against ICE doesn't translate to antifa, the ICE organization is extremely corrupt and immoral regardless of ideology.

Post actual evidence or accept you're a shitposter. Which one of these protests was enacted with anyone evoking anti-facism, show your work.

I guess the article that mentioned the mob chanting " Antifa Antifa Antifa " wasn't good enough.

Seriously how much time can you spend defending/ denying a groups actions?

Literally none of the articles you linked can demonstrate any such chant, only chants against Biden and Trump. And NYP isn't fit to wipe my ass as a source.

The NYP article did but since you disregarded that link let's try video evidence and see how deep your denial goes.

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So the Antifa Rioters in Oregon hate Biden!?

The Capitol Rioters love Trump!?

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#40  Edited By Vaasman
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@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

Literally none of the articles you linked can demonstrate any such chant, only chants against Biden and Trump. And NYP isn't fit to wipe my ass as a source.

The NYP article did but since you disregarded that link let's try video evidence and see how deep your denial goes.

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You're going to have to post a timestamp or something because nowhere that I can hear in the video is anyone chanting as such.

And here's verbatim what NYP said "In Seattle, at least 100 people took to the streets, chanting their allegiance to Antifa and smashing several businesses, including Starbucks’ first-ever coffee shop."

'chanting their allegiance' is vague and given NYP's bias and terrible record for fact checking, likely misrepresentative. There's still no support here for the notion that antifa ideology spurred this behavior, and there are no quotes in the articles from protestors that can demonstrate as such. Yet again you try to summon this boogeyman but yet again he evidently doesn't exist.

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@zaryia: According to the article the protesters they interviewed were angry that Biden called for Unity.

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@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:
@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

Antifa isn't strictly left or right, it's literally anti-facism and as such isn't constrained by the same concepts. Negativity against ICE doesn't translate to antifa, the ICE organization is extremely corrupt and immoral regardless of ideology.

Post actual evidence or accept you're a shitposter. Which one of these protests was enacted with anyone evoking anti-facism, show your work.

I guess the article that mentioned the mob chanting " Antifa Antifa Antifa " wasn't good enough.

Seriously how much time can you spend defending/ denying a groups actions?

Literally none of the articles you linked can demonstrate any such chant, only chants against Biden and Trump. And NYP isn't fit to wipe my ass as a source.

The NYP article did but since you disregarded that link let's try video evidence and see how deep your denial goes.

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Did you just post that because it was had "Antifa" in it's title?

Again, Antifa isn't a group.

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#43 Silentchief
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@Ring_of_fire said:
@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:
@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

Antifa isn't strictly left or right, it's literally anti-facism and as such isn't constrained by the same concepts. Negativity against ICE doesn't translate to antifa, the ICE organization is extremely corrupt and immoral regardless of ideology.

Post actual evidence or accept you're a shitposter. Which one of these protests was enacted with anyone evoking anti-facism, show your work.

I guess the article that mentioned the mob chanting " Antifa Antifa Antifa " wasn't good enough.

Seriously how much time can you spend defending/ denying a groups actions?

Literally none of the articles you linked can demonstrate any such chant, only chants against Biden and Trump. And NYP isn't fit to wipe my ass as a source.

The NYP article did but since you disregarded that link let's try video evidence and see how deep your denial goes.

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Did you just post that because it was had "Antifa" in it's title?

Again, Antifa isn't a group.

So those were just a bunch of random individuals that made signs and dressed alike and happened to chant things in unison?

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@silentchief said:

How should Biden handle them?

I am a GS mod, not the Presidents adviser. But I am guessing he will handle it as a rational adult and not throw more fuel to the fire or create more panic and division out of this.

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Fox news as a source LMAO.

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#46 Silentchief
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@Vaasman said:
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Literally none of the articles you linked can demonstrate any such chant, only chants against Biden and Trump. And NYP isn't fit to wipe my ass as a source.

The NYP article did but since you disregarded that link let's try video evidence and see how deep your denial goes.

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You're going to have to post a timestamp or something because nowhere that I can hear in the video is anyone chanting as such.

And here's verbatim what NYP said "In Seattle, at least 100 people took to the streets, chanting their allegiance to Antifa and smashing several businesses, including Starbucks’ first-ever coffee shop."

'chanting their allegiance' is vague and given NYP's bias and terrible record for fact checking, likely misrepresentative. There's still no support here for the notion that antifa ideology spurred this behavior, and there are no quotes in the articles from protestors that can demonstrate as such. Yet again you try to summon this boogeyman but yet again he evidently doesn't exist.

Look at the sign spray painted on the wall

Either your deep in denial or trolling at this point.

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#47 Silentchief
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@warmblur said:

Fox news as a source LMAO.

How about ABC

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#48  Edited By Vaasman
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@silentchief said:
@Vaasman said:

You're going to have to post a timestamp or something because nowhere that I can hear in the video is anyone chanting as such.

And here's verbatim what NYP said "In Seattle, at least 100 people took to the streets, chanting their allegiance to Antifa and smashing several businesses, including Starbucks’ first-ever coffee shop."

'chanting their allegiance' is vague and given NYP's bias and terrible record for fact checking, likely misrepresentative. There's still no support here for the notion that antifa ideology spurred this behavior, and there are no quotes in the articles from protestors that can demonstrate as such. Yet again you try to summon this boogeyman but yet again he evidently doesn't exist.

Look at the sign spray painted on the wall

Either your deep in denial or trolling at this point.

One spray painting? Really? There is no context to this either. What one person spray paints on a wall isn't a reflection of the crowd as a whole. That isn't support that rioters themselves organized under any single banner. Not to mention, this is an Anarchy A, not exclusive to the concept of antifa.

Why can't you just come up with any concrete posts? Any quotations of proper 'chanting,' any kind of central organization, any kind of clear antifa motivator for the riot as a whole?

Quit embarrassing yourself by trying to make antifa out as something it's not.

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#49 Zaryia
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@silentchief said:
@warmblur said:

Fox news as a source LMAO.

How about ABC

To hell with those Anti-Biden rioters. Just as bad as the Anti-Biden rioters at the Capitol.

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#50 ogvampire
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i don't know who these people are but the ones that are vandalizing property need to be prosecuted. so dumb