http://ps3.ign.com/articles/111/1115554p1.html
I don't know about you but i won't buy any games who has that crap on. One more reason for me to get rid of my ps3 if it ever happens.
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I'll probably go along with it, so long as Sony admits that they're big fat hypocrites for criticizing MS over Live's business model.
If I read it correctly.... they are just making it so you cant go and rent it and play all of the games features. Like BFBC2. Which makes since. It's all about money. I understand.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/111/1115554p1.html
I don't know about you but i won't buy any games who has that crap on. One more reason for me to get rid of my ps3 if it ever happens.
i refuse to buy such games despite the fact that i buy all my games new , if a company treats its customers like that i dont wanna be their customerI don't want to pay for online! That is why xbox users keep coming over to the PS3, they have some of the same games and better ones with FREE online! If Sony takes that away, I am going to be ticked!
Hammstray
You won't pay for online playing. You also will not pay for online playing for any new game that you buy. You would only have to pay for online content if you buy a used game, or I guess rent a game, if the company/developers would even allow this.
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I don't want to pay for online! That is why xbox users keep coming over to the PS3, they have some of the same games and better ones with FREE online! If Sony takes that away, I am going to be ticked!
FIREKNIGHT19
You won't pay for online playing. You also will not pay for online playing for any new game that you buy. You would only have to pay for online content if you buy a used game, or I guess rent a game, if the company/developers would even allow this.
thats seems fair
so we don't pay for online
I really hope they just mean the anti used game thing. You can call that greedy, but to be fair if you buy a used game you aren't the customer of Sony/Ea/etc you are a customer of Gamestop/Amazon/etc, since used games give the devs no money.
However, if they start charging for online in general it's bye bye ps3, for me and for many more. It would just be an utterly foolish thing to do, pissing off most of the userbase and suffering a major backlash.
that's when we must fight, with this they're trying to kill the "used games" business, not only make us pay for online gaming ; this will not only make us pay more for games, but then make many gaming shops close and thus kill many jobs
Yeah they are slowly creeping towards another XBL hoping no one will notice...JohnF111haha i know right! that makes me mad honestly. i have a ps3 now because i wanted free online play. (not the main reason but one of them) I really hope they don't charge for online.
once again, i can see many posters jumping to conclusion without reading and thinking carefully.....
personally, i have no problem with this. while selling and playing used games is not illegal, devs/publishers have the right to profit from their online services. also, if EA is of any indication, these pass will likely be very cheap. i honestly don't see why people complain when they will gladly spend more for some crappy DLCs that offer next to nothing.
bottom line.... buy your games new. problem solved.
Microsoft makes a quarry load of money from its online. Sony is a company after all, they want money. I don't know if I would pay for such a thing, but If It improves the service, then maybe it is worthwhile.
I have both a PS3 and 360 and one thing I love about the PS3 is free online, it's a big draw.I wouldn't pay for online.
If they are thinking of charging people who buy secondhand then I think that is wrong. Games are not cheap, here in Australia they can be as much as $100. Some people don't have a choice but to buy secondhand, maybe if they didn't charge ridiculous prices some people wouldn't need to buy secondhand. The games industry isn't struggling, it's worth billions of dollars.
It sounds like they're talking about making their games have free online for those who purchase them new, and if you buy used, you'll have to pay a one-time fee to access the online portion. Same a what other publishers like EA are doing. This doesn't seem to have anything to do with the PSN.
I could care less if they start charging. I gamed before online, I'llgame without. It's the most useless part of a title. I'm all about the SP game, and don't use many (if ANY, lately) of my games online as it is. I also wait for games to drop in price either new or used. I don't pay new-game prices except for every blue moon when something like Gran Turismo comes out...
... go ahead and become even more hypocritical, Sony. See what I care. It's not going to affect me one bit. Throw it at the wall, see how much sticks. What, with the raging sales of "PSN-Plus". Whatta JOKE.
Y'all are making a big deal over nothing here, in my opinion.
That's why I left Xbox Live for PSN and that you have to pay a price for a year's or 3 month's subscription to a terrible online community. Anyhoo, You still get to go online if you buy the game new and not used or pre-owned (it'll have a code in the box like the ones from EA probably)I don't want to pay for online! That is why xbox users keep coming over to the PS3, they have some of the same games and better ones with FREE online! If Sony takes that away, I am going to be ticked!
Hammstray
People are blowing this out of proportion. If you buy a game new, nothing changes. It's only if you buy it used that you will end up paying more. I don't see how this is like the 360 at all. You are only saving 5 dollars buy buying it used anyway. Doesn't EA give you online free for a week or something before they lock you out of online? The only problem I could see with this is if someone couldn't find a new copy of X game.
As long as Sony offers a trial period for online, then it's fine. Developers don't want 10 people playing 1 copy of a game. That is understandable.
So as long as you buy a game new, nothing changes. If you can't afford it, just wait until the price of the game drops.
I don't buy used games ,because I hate used games,but I always wait for price of the game to go down and then I buy it .
any way the main point I want to say is not all the people have 60 dollars to pay for new games so why they are pushing them to buy new games or make them pay more to get every thing from game.
seriously game company's these days are just thinking about money all the time which is not good and would make the people hate them.
I don't buy used games ,because I hate used games,but I always wait for price of the game to go down and then I buy it .
any way the main point I want to say is not all the people have 60 dollars to pay for new games so why they are pushing them to buy new games or make them pay more to get every thing from game.
seriously game company's these days are just thinking about money all the time which is not good and would make the people hate them.
Deaho
The used copies of games that are relatively new aren't that much cheaper. $55 for a used copy is almost nothing. I do agree with letting the price drop. My theory is, if you like a game enough to want to play day 1, then it's a game you wouldn't mind buying new anyway.
I don't see the issue because a lot of people only buy games with multiplayer so I don't see the complaint.
its not a HUGE deal, but its funny to see how many people can justify this as "ok". I for one buy used games often, when i see a deal. Of course if the price difference between new and used is $5-$10, then i will generally buy the game new. But once in a while i'll come across a $20-$25 difference in price.
Im not surprised by EA following this model, but Sony pushing this is frusterating. I expect for MS to follow suit later one, which will be a big piss off. I understand trying to control the used game market is a fair business practice for this publishers, but come on. $10? Thats very steep imo. Thats the price of a lot of XBLA and PSN games. And aside from all us who are aware of this, how about the majority of casual gamers who wont have a clue. If this becomes a standard, it better be mandatory for the publishers to print these terms in BIG on the box for everyone to see.
I understand they want their money...but with the overpricing of DLC and other trash we've dealt with this generation, this is getting a little out of hand.
Well, that sucks. I buy all my game used and now they want to charge me a fee if I want to play online? Therefore eliminating any or most of the reason for buying a used game...saving money.
Then again, I've been increasingly turned off online gaming, so it wouldn't be a huge blow to my gaming experience.
My post from the System Wars thread:
Well, IMO it's fair. Devs/Publishers don't see a cent from used games so why would they give you any traffic or power of their servers to allow you playing online? I completly agree that they do not have to offer their services for free and as long as it does not affect the people who buy the games new, I'm more than fine with it
i dont plan on getting thisjcopp72Getting what? theres nothing to get. just buy new games not used. Its like EA with BFBC2. Buy it new and you get the VIP code for free in the box. Buy it used and you will havre to pay for the pass through th PS store. Its a way for the gaming companies to make money as they do not make a dime with used games. HINT PSn is already charging for online but its an option its called PS PLUS. PS base online is and always will I assume remain free. SO IF YOU PLAY GAMES ONLINE JUST BUY THAT GAME NEW NOT USED. PROBLEM SOLVED.
Sony has every right to do this. I support the concept myself. At least developers/publishers get a bit out of it as well now.
Wait so am I understanding this correctly? We'll have to pay to get the PHYSICAL game disc and then pay MORE money just to activate the online features? You gotta be ****ing kidding me?anime_gamer007
ONLY if you buy the game used. If you buy the game brand new then you do not have to pay anything.
im pretty sure sony was referring to making you pay a one time fee if you bought the game used to access the online play, toward the end of an article here on gamespot it has sony saying their free online service is what has made them successful and that they would struggle with a monthly fee(obviously not in those words).
i got jipped out of some free content when i bought Dragon Age:Origins...i chose to get the game used for 5 bucks cheaper and later realised it came with codes to unlock a few things....obviously someone already used up them codes! should have just bought the damn game new!
i dont plan on getting thisjcopp72ok now that i actually know what that artical is saying, i wont bother me because i don't buy used games. All they are doing is making it so that if you buy a used game, you would have to buy a code to unlock the online play. New games would come with a code to unlock the online play.
[QUOTE="jcopp72"]i dont plan on getting thisking40ozGetting what? theres nothing to get. just buy new games not used. Its like EA with BFBC2. Buy it new and you get the VIP code for free in the box. Buy it used and you will havre to pay for the pass through th PS store. Its a way for the gaming companies to make money as they do not make a dime with used games. HINT PSn is already charging for online but its an option its called PS PLUS. PS base online is and always will I assume remain free. SO IF YOU PLAY GAMES ONLINE JUST BUY THAT GAME NEW NOT USED. PROBLEM SOLVED. yea i didn't understand the article the 1st time i read it, i never buy used games, I only buy them new, so it wont affect me at all.
[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"][QUOTE="MysteriousNacht"]I would not mind since it would make the PSN better.Rakuhohow ? :DI love when people think a monetary charge = better quality :lol:Apple has too much power.
how ? :D[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"][QUOTE="MysteriousNacht"]I would not mind since it would make the PSN better.Rakuho
I love when people think a monetary charge = better quality :lol:
will psn be better if people have to pay "penalties" for buying used games :D ?Yeah they are slowly creeping towards another XBL hoping no one will notice...JohnF111WTF.. this doesn't have anything to do with XBL. The article is referring to games such as EA which requires an online access code. There are EA titles on PS3 which requires the online access code ya know?
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[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"] how ? :DAmnesiaHaze
I love when people think a monetary charge = better quality :lol:
will psn be better if people have to pay "penalties" for buying used games :D ?I don't see how one has anything to do with the other unless Sony actually uses the revenues from the "penalties" to refurbish PSN :?
plus why are you asking me... aren't we in agreement that charging customers a fee doesn't mean that the quality of the end product will automatically improve?
Why is anybody surprised by this. I fully expect every company to do something similar in the near future. these guys are looking to kill the used games market.
They're welcome to try and shut down used sales, whatever... t won't effect me one way or the other.
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