Reasons why I dont want PS4

2. Graphics are great for consolesVanillamarble

I don't really want a PS4 just cause IMO, how can they top/improve on the PS3?!?!?!? It is basically the limit for game consoles and why/how would we improve graphics even further?!?!?!? they are already amazing.

The PS3 has:

Upgradable HDD

BD/DVD/Video player

CD player/ability to rip cds to library.

Photo Station

Internet Browser

Netflix

PS Store content and PSOne classics

HD 1080p graphics

USB ports for data

Online/Friends/Messaging

and don't even get me started on the technical specifications.....

anyway, the PS3 had the ability to have the longest lifespan of any console ever. All im saying is, what more do we need?

I don't want to see a PS4 until 2013 or 2014. And I can't wait to see the massive step up in graphics and physics, like the phenomenal difference between PS2 and PS3 when it was released.

well considering nintendo announced their new system sony probably just sent out a press release saying they have a new one in development. Granted, if it doesn't come out in the intended time frame I can see a lot of the people saying they're content with their ps3 complain that sony pushed back the ps4 release date. Still, I have quite a lot of games to still play on the ps3, and like I did with the ps2, I'll probably keep playing the system as my main system until 2-3 years into the ps4's life (plus that'll give them time to fix any problems and actually get some good games out, and I'll be able to pick some games up cheap as I did when I got my ps3 a year and a half ago).

[QUOTE="Vanillamarble"]2. Graphics are great for consolesCellAnimation

[QUOTE="CellAnimation"][QUOTE="Vanillamarble"]2. Graphics are great for consolesx-2tha-z

Main reason I don't want a Playstaion 4 is because I just bought the PS3 last year, so if it does come out so soon chances are I'll get it in 2018 or 2021, 10 years or 7 years really isn't that long. PS3 came out in 2006 I think and I bought it in 2010 think that is 4 years after release date. But next gen I'm unsure of on what I'll do

I don't want PS4 because I no haz monies.:(

The difference between consoles and PC graphics isn't that big. AA and 1080 is nice, but it isn't going to make the console versions look shocking. PC graphics really should be a lot better than they are. I think a lot of PC gamers exaggerate how good they look. The difference in most games is really nothing to brag about.x-2tha-z

PS3 to me feel way underpowered. Most multiplats especially look terrible, no AA, low resolution, weak framerates. You can tell the GPU is really struggling to put out a decent picture. Even games everybody raves about (KZ3, MGS4, UC, etc) look terrible other than the cutscenes. Like PC graphics from 15 years ago. 360 does a slightly better job, but still only barely acceptable. Next gen I am expecting a major horsepower upgrade.ZombieKiller7

Half Life 1 is not even 15 years old, but somehow current generation console games look worse than it? I do not think so.

1. Way too early life cycle for the PS3. Im still having a blast with it. 2. Graphics are great for consoles, and Sony says the games on the market are not even close to coming close to showing off what the PS3 can do, even though i dont know how thats possible with Uncharted 2. 3. PS4 will be SUPER EXPENSIVE when it comes out. 4. PS4 probably wont have backwards compatability. It better. 5. I want to keep my online profile and trophy level from PS3. And all my friends. Vanillamarble

The PS3 is going turning five this year. How is this early in the lifecycle? Five years used to be standard for consoles. PS2 came out five years after the PS1. The PS3 came out six years after the PS2. PS4 will probably be out in 2013. Sony actually did a great job with the price point of the Vita, so the PS4 may not be that pricey when it releases.

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]PS3 to me feel way underpowered. Most multiplats especially look terrible, no AA, low resolution, weak framerates. You can tell the GPU is really struggling to put out a decent picture. Even games everybody raves about (KZ3, MGS4, UC, etc) look terrible other than the cutscenes. Like PC graphics from 15 years ago. 360 does a slightly better job, but still only barely acceptable. Next gen I am expecting a major horsepower upgrade.gamenerd15

Half Life 1 is not even 15 years old, but somehow current generation console games look worse than it? I do not think so.

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]The difference between consoles and PC graphics isn't that big. AA and 1080 is nice, but it isn't going to make the console versions look shocking. PC graphics really should be a lot better than they are. I think a lot of PC gamers exaggerate how good they look. The difference in most games is really nothing to brag about.CellAnimation

I can tell the difference. I said games look better on PC. I'm just saying the difference isn't as big as you're making it out to be. There's a lot of exaggerating going on when people talk about PC graphics and it's kinda starting to get annoying. Feel free to post screenshots or a link to a video showing PC graphics so amazing, they make consoles look shocking. Until then, I think I'm done with this conversation.x-2tha-z

Play The Witcher 2 on PC and try to compare it to any console game. That game just blows my mind, and I can't even crank it up to the highest settings.

Also, I'm willing to bet that consoles have held back much of the graphical development that you normally would've seen over the past few years. There's little point in pushing the boundaries of graphical quality if 2 out of the 3 systems are going to hold you back (and often those two systems are your best sellers).

I can tell the difference. I said games look better on PC. I'm just saying the difference isn't as big as you're making it out to be. There's a lot of exaggerating going on when people talk about PC graphics and it's kinda starting to get annoying. Feel free to post screenshots or a link to a video showing PC graphics so amazing, they make consoles look shocking. Until then, I think I'm done with this conversation.x-2tha-z

PS3 to me feel way underpowered. Most multiplats especially look terrible, no AA, low resolution, weak framerates. You can tell the GPU is really struggling to put out a decent picture. Even games everybody raves about (KZ3, MGS4, UC, etc) look terrible other than the cutscenes. Like PC graphics from 15 years ago. 360 does a slightly better job, but still only barely acceptable. Next gen I am expecting a major horsepower upgrade.ZombieKiller7

I don't know what you're talking about. I think Uncharted 1 & 2 both look fantastic, in cutscenes and regular gameplay.

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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]PS3 to me feel way underpowered. Most multiplats especially look terrible, no AA, low resolution, weak framerates. You can tell the GPU is really struggling to put out a decent picture. Even games everybody raves about (KZ3, MGS4, UC, etc) look terrible other than the cutscenes. Like PC graphics from 15 years ago. 360 does a slightly better job, but still only barely acceptable. Next gen I am expecting a major horsepower upgrade.ZombieKiller7

Half Life 1 is not even 15 years old, but somehow current generation console games look worse than it? I do not think so.

You are insane. Deus ex looks quite pixelated, and the character models are quite blocky.

If you think shooters on consoles look like deus ex, then I would visit a doctor right away. I am not trying to be mean, but how does

this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juqT9wNqrGY&playnext=1&list=PLF0BCB9706F8E3547

look like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uuh8MowuFcw

WTF

I only have one reason for not wanting a PS4: the PS3!:) It's a great system, great library and lineup of games, and still hasa lot of life left in it.;)

I don't really want a PS4 just cause IMO, how can they top/improve on the PS3?!?!?!? It is basically the limit for game consoles and why/how would we improve graphics even further?!?!?!? they are already amazing.

The PS3 has:

Upgradable HDD

BD/DVD/Video player

CD player/ability to rip cds to library.

Photo Station

Internet Browser

Netflix

PS Store content and PSOne classics

HD 1080p graphics

USB ports for data

Online/Friends/Messaging

and don't even get me started on the technical specifications.....

anyway, the PS3 had the ability to have the longest lifespan of any console ever. All im saying is, what more do we need?

The_Wild_Tiger

PS3 to me feel way underpowered. Most multiplats especially look terrible, no AA, low resolution, weak framerates. You can tell the GPU is really struggling to put out a decent picture. Even games everybody raves about (KZ3, MGS4, UC, etc) look terrible other than the cutscenes. Like PC graphics from 15 years ago. 360 does a slightly better job, but still only barely acceptable. Next gen I am expecting a major horsepower upgrade.ZombieKiller7

LOL. U funny :lol: How do i quote this into a signature like how other folks do it.....

I kinda feel the ps4 is gonna be a forced release rather than a step up next gen release.varunvikram1

i want a ps4...but I worry that it will take a long time for devs to optimize there games for it. Its like learning a new language of codes building games from the ground up. Look how long it took for ps3 to be able to run Madden NFL football at a playable framerate and control. The first 4-5 maddens on next gen looked nice but came nowhere near the amount of control felt on previous gen madden games.

I think when the ps4 hits the shelves...it really doesnt HIT the shelves until 3-4 years after its official release...when the games are optimized (not laggy or too sensitive on the controls etc... looking at you "perfect dark" when you first came out)

IMO... let them release it...but dont buy it right away...

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]PS3 to me feel way underpowered. Most multiplats especially look terrible, no AA, low resolution, weak framerates. You can tell the GPU is really struggling to put out a decent picture. Even games everybody raves about (KZ3, MGS4, UC, etc) look terrible other than the cutscenes. Like PC graphics from 15 years ago. 360 does a slightly better job, but still only barely acceptable. Next gen I am expecting a major horsepower upgrade.cdragon_88

LOL. U funny :lol: How do i quote this into a signature like how other folks do it.....

Yea it seems hard to believe. But trust me...when i broke out of the console bubble and actually saw the power the PC (computer) games graphics had.... it blew me away...

take a look at the upcoming BF3 and compare the pc version to the console one. Too see it in actual MOTION...the smoothness of excellent graphics... its amazing. a great PC has the power to play any ps3 game with no amount of lag what so ever. (gives you that quick call of duty framerate).

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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]PS3 to me feel way underpowered. Most multiplats especially look terrible, no AA, low resolution, weak framerates. You can tell the GPU is really struggling to put out a decent picture. Even games everybody raves about (KZ3, MGS4, UC, etc) look terrible other than the cutscenes. Like PC graphics from 15 years ago. 360 does a slightly better job, but still only barely acceptable. Next gen I am expecting a major horsepower upgrade.uso_outkast

LOL. U funny :lol: How do i quote this into a signature like how other folks do it.....

Yea it seems hard to believe. But trust me...when i broke out of the console bubble and actually saw the power the PC (computer) games graphics had.... it blew me away...

take a look at the upcoming BF3 and compare the pc version to the console one. Too see it in actual MOTION...the smoothness of excellent graphics... its amazing. a great PC has the power to play any ps3 game with no amount of lag what so ever. (gives you that quick call of duty framerate).

i am still not satisfied from my PS3, i just bought it 4months ago, and happy with it, hope PS4 coming out 2015.. :)

I want it as fast as possible, with the gap getting bigger and bigger I play more and more on the PC. And lol @ graphics are good, that's what you get on PC:

Modded GTA4

Also it's not like the PS3 instantly gets no more support after the PS4 released and most that don't buy at launch won't buy the PS4 at launch, so they can keep playing their 6 years old system for a year or more -.-'

You are insane. Deus ex looks quite pixelated, and the character models are quite blocky.gamenerd15

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]I can tell the difference. I said games look better on PC. I'm just saying the difference isn't as big as you're making it out to be. There's a lot of exaggerating going on when people talk about PC graphics and it's kinda starting to get annoying. Feel free to post screenshots or a link to a video showing PC graphics so amazing, they make consoles look shocking. Until then, I think I'm done with this conversation.CellAnimation

How do you know it will cost too much? What, you can look into the future?

And I think that Battlefield 3 (Even it is a Multi-Platform) will show what the PS 3 can do.

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]I can tell the difference. I said games look better on PC. I'm just saying the difference isn't as big as you're making it out to be. There's a lot of exaggerating going on when people talk about PC graphics and it's kinda starting to get annoying. Feel free to post screenshots or a link to a video showing PC graphics so amazing, they make consoles look shocking. Until then, I think I'm done with this conversation.Sepewrath

I want it as fast as possible, with the gap getting bigger and bigger I play more and more on the PC. And lol @ graphics are good, that's what you get on PC:

Modded GTA4

Also it's not like the PS3 instantly gets no more support after the PS4 released and most that don't buy at launch won't buy the PS4 at launch, so they can keep playing their 6 years old system for a year or more -.-'

ArchoNils2

[QUOTE="gamenerd15"]You are insane. Deus ex looks quite pixelated, and the character models are quite blocky.ZombieKiller7

Thanks for the update captain obvious. I did not say that consoles were better than PC. Nonetheless, your statement about how current consoles look like ten to fifteen year old PC games is complete crap. We do not even know what the limit is for a console, so we cannot say how much who is pushing what. I honestly do not care. If you want to pay $700 or whatever it costs for games to run at 60 FPS with 0 hitches, then fine. Some of us do not care about the most premium in graphics. Framerates being locked at 30 FPS is fine by me. If a game has a few hitches or two, so what?

[QUOTE="ArchoNils2"]

I want it as fast as possible, with the gap getting bigger and bigger I play more and more on the PC. And lol @ graphics are good, that's what you get on PC:

Modded GTA4

Also it's not like the PS3 instantly gets no more support after the PS4 released and most that don't buy at launch won't buy the PS4 at launch, so they can keep playing their 6 years old system for a year or more -.-'

homeboylizard

It's real, it's the newest GTA4 Mod iCenhancer

Thanks for the update captain obvious. I did not say that consoles were better than PC. Nonetheless, your statement about how current consoles look like ten to fifteen year old PC games is complete crap. We do not even know what the limit is for a console, so we cannot say how much who is pushing what. I honestly do not care. If you want to pay $700 or whatever it costs for games to run at 60 FPS with 0 hitches, then fine. Some of us do not care about the most premium in graphics. Framerates being locked at 30 FPS is fine by me. If a game has a few hitches or two, so what?gamenerd15

Graphics are beginning to get to a point where it is becoming a standard thing to have "good graphics" and the issue will be on complex gameplay like allowing fluid dynamics, and realistic physics in a game. I'm not worried at all about the PS4 or X720 being underpowered at all since console developers are getting really good with optimization and neat tricks to make game graphics appear better than they really are(aside from fixed tiny draw distance, no AA/filtering, etc.). I'm sure with the 8th generation of consoles, the focus will move once again from graphics back onto gameplay like in 1996-2004 when we had a burst of creativity due to all the possibilities allowed by the shift from 2D to 3D graphics.

[QUOTE="gamenerd15"]Thanks for the update captain obvious. I did not say that consoles were better than PC. Nonetheless, your statement about how current consoles look like ten to fifteen year old PC games is complete crap. We do not even know what the limit is for a console, so we cannot say how much who is pushing what. I honestly do not care. If you want to pay $700 or whatever it costs for games to run at 60 FPS with 0 hitches, then fine. Some of us do not care about the most premium in graphics. Framerates being locked at 30 FPS is fine by me. If a game has a few hitches or two, so what?ZombieKiller7

Yes I know the difference. I am saying that I do not care about pixels at all. I would not want games to push systems to the absolute limit because otherwise they might break if you keep playing it. Machines that are pushed 100% all of the time are not going to last too long. It is kind of like running. If you run to your absolute max all of the time everyday, you will eventually break down because your body is pushing itself to the limit all of the time. If this was the best we could do as far as graphics on consoles, then I am satisfied. Developers should find other things to with games besides push hardware. Creating new unique stories would be something to focus on. The game Folklore is a great example of a game with "ok" graphics and awesome story. I would not want a Ratchet game to look like Crysis 1. That type of game does not need to look super awesome. These high end graphics might be great for shooters, but for other games not so much. I have not even gone HD yet because I do not care. I just want fun games.

I just bought my PS3unrealtron