Kingdom Hearts 3 going multi ?(Square's Decisions of Development)

[QUOTE="benleslie5"]

I can't see Kingdom Hearts 3 going multiplatform, The KH series have always been a huge sucess on Playstation 2 worldwide.

K1LLR3175

Exactly!! .. im so sure that star ocean 4 will come to ps3 .. like Eternal Sonata for example .. it took some time till it came to ps3 .

The Kingdom Hearts team are busy with Final Fantasy Versus XIII.Legna_san

Exactly! Sp there's little to no work on KH3 at this point. Also don't be surprised if Versus goes multiplat also.

Well what about the games that are exclusives that are not good.Like Haze,Lair,Dark kingdom.Using exclusives as an excuse for good games is a bad thing to do.Games like Battlefield bad company and quite a few others that are multiplatform are in great playable shape.Bioshock,eternal sonata,Burnout paradise,Condemned 2,Oblivion Dead space,Mirrors edge etc,etc,etc....the list goes on and on.Games that are made poorly on the PS3 are made because of lazy-ness.That's why.K1LLR3175

[QUOTE="K1LLR3175"][QUOTE="benleslie5"]

I can't see Kingdom Hearts 3 going multiplatform, The KH series have always been a huge sucess on Playstation 2 worldwide.

finalstar2007

exactlly .. im so sure that star ocean 4 will come to ps3 .. like Eternal Sonata for example .. it took some time till it came to ps3 .

It just doesn't make sense - with FFXIII going multiplat, this move looks as if they're deliberately trying to stab Sony in the back!

[QUOTE="K1LLR3175"]

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"] I understand what you're trying to say, but I still have a problem with the FFXIII debacle because SE announced it as a PS3 exclusive and then went multiplatform - if they announced multiplatform from the start, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all.Leostatic

You need to stop the Loyalist stuff.I ain't trying to be smart.And in a way I see where you are coming from but like I said,at the end of a day...it is just a game.As long as you get to play it that is all that matters.Like you said aslong as the quality does not sink then everything is A OK.Lost planet was announced as a 360 exclusive....but look how that turned out,same thing goes for Dead rising,but it got released on the Wii.Things change over time.It is what makes things interesting,I guess whether you like that interest or not.

The flaw in your rants should be obvious: The lack of it being an exclusive isn't (at least for me) about noone else being allowed to play the game just for bragging rights or some sense of "fanboyism." It's about the inherent downgrade of quality that has come with so many games BEING multi-plat. There are too many games that provide evidence for said lost quality, and in the case of exclusives, MGS4, Heavenly Sword, soon to be KZ2, etc, the effect of exclusivity and its relationship with quality is glaring. As a consumer, I want the best bang for my buck...and keeping certain games exclusive helps better ensure I'm getting all I'm paying for.

Does THAT make sense to you? :)

TheTenth10 already said something similar back on page 1... geez. Round in circles we go. When did games going multiplatform become such a problem. If the game was originally released for the PS3, then ported to the Xbox 360, obviously there will be a slight downgrade in graphics. When it comes to Xbox 360 games being ported to the PS3, like Eternal Sonata for example, it was graphically the same as the Xbox 360 version, sure, but at least there was extras. Same thing might happen with Star Ocean: The Last Hope...

Seriously, who cares about a slight downgrade in quality, the gameplay remains the same regardless, and that what matters the most. And besides, it not like the PS3 can do something the Xbox 360 can't...

I am sorry.I am just glad that we are having a GREAT debate without name calling and the Mods getting involved.I think maybe it is because we hold respect for one another and Martha lol.She is here fixing me some more bacon.lol.But I have no idea what Square Enix was thinking with the whole SO thing.It seems completely ass backwards to me.If it was multi I would not mind,but the whole fact that it some how became and exclusive out of the blue?Does SE really need that much money?K1LLR3175

[QUOTE="Leostatic"][QUOTE="K1LLR3175"]If people did not get upset about the most minuscule things there there would be no problem period.It is just a game,a video game for our entertainment.Something to get us from the real world.I kinda figured that the game was going multiplatform.

You need to stop the Loyalist stuff.I ain't trying to be smart.And in a way I see where you are coming from but like I said,at the end of a day...it is just a game.As long as you get to play it that is all that matters.Like you said aslong as the quality does not sink then everything is A OK.Lost planet was announced as a 360 exclusive....but look how that turned out,same thing goes for Dead rising,but it got released on the Wii.Things change over time.It is what makes things interesting,I guess whether you like that interest or not.

Legna_san

The flaw in your rants should be obvious: The lack of it being an exclusive isn't (at least for me) about noone else being allowed to play the game just for bragging rights or some sense of "fanboyism." It's about the inherent downgrade of quality that has come with so many games BEING multi-plat. There are too many games that provide evidence for said lost quality, and in the case of exclusives, MGS4, Heavenly Sword, soon to be KZ2, etc, the effect of exclusivity and its relationship with quality is glaring. As a consumer, I want the best bang for my buck...and keeping certain games exclusive helps better ensure I'm getting all I'm paying for.

Does THAT make sense to you? :)

TheTenth10 already said something similar back on page 1... geez. Round in circles we go. When did games going multiplatform become such a problem. If the game was originally released for the PS3, then ported to the Xbox 360, obviously there will be a slight downgrade in graphics. When it comes to Xbox 360 games being ported to the PS3, like Eternal Sonata for example, it was graphically the same as the Xbox 360 version, sure, but at least there was extras. Same thing might happen with Star Ocean: The Last Hope...

Seriously, who cares about a slight downgrade in quality, the gameplay remains the same regardless, and that what matters the most. And besides, it not like the PS3 can do something the Xbox 360 can't...

It is exactly as if the ps3 can do things the other console can't. As for your comment of someone saying something similar; noone said what I did, if they had I wouldn't have posted

@K1 I never said it's a given that if it's exclusive it's good. Please for those who've commented on my post, re-read and don't put words where they are not.

Bottom line: The best game content available for the ps3 will and has, in my most humble opinion, been that which is exclusive. MGS4, 08's game of the year for most, and KZ2, possible contender for GOY 09 are just two great examples ot this.

I see this thread downward spiraling into inanity, a lack of logic and the bravado of nastiness that only the psuedo-anonymity of the internet can provide...so enjoy. :)

[QUOTE="Legna_san"][QUOTE="Leostatic"]

The flaw in your rants should be obvious: The lack of it being an exclusive isn't (at least for me) about noone else being allowed to play the game just for bragging rights or some sense of "fanboyism." It's about the inherent downgrade of quality that has come with so many games BEING multi-plat. There are too many games that provide evidence for said lost quality, and in the case of exclusives, MGS4, Heavenly Sword, soon to be KZ2, etc, the effect of exclusivity and its relationship with quality is glaring. As a consumer, I want the best bang for my buck...and keeping certain games exclusive helps better ensure I'm getting all I'm paying for.

Does THAT make sense to you? :)

Leostatic

TheTenth10 already said something similar back on page 1... geez. Round in circles we go. When did games going multiplatform become such a problem. If the game was originally released for the PS3, then ported to the Xbox 360, obviously there will be a slight downgrade in graphics. When it comes to Xbox 360 games being ported to the PS3, like Eternal Sonata for example, it was graphically the same as the Xbox 360 version, sure, but at least there was extras. Same thing might happen with Star Ocean: The Last Hope...

Seriously, who cares about a slight downgrade in quality, the gameplay remains the same regardless, and that what matters the most. And besides, it not like the PS3 can do something the Xbox 360 can't...

It is exactly as if the ps3 can do things the other console can't. As for your comment of someone saying something similar; noone said what I did, if they had I wouldn't have posted

@K1 I never said it's a given that if it's exclusive it's good. Please for those who've commented on my post, re-read and don't put words where they are not.

Bottom line: The best game content available for the ps3 will and has, in my most humble opinion, been that which is exclusive. MGS4, 08's game of the year for most, and KZ2, possible contender for GOY 09 are just two great examples ot this.

I see this thread downward spiraling into inanity, a lack of logic and the bravado of nastiness that only the psuedo-anonymity of the internet can provide...so enjoy. :)

Read what TheTenth10 wrote.. Somewhat similar to what you wrote don't you think (your point about quality btw). While I don't deny that the PS3 might be capable of much more, I still haven't seen anything special/different when gameplay is concerned. Take White Knight Chronicles for example, graphically it's great, but the gameplay seems very similar to FF XII to me. I'm not impressed.

And yeah, this thread has gone downhill.... Even I'm confused. XD Seriously, I've completely lost interest.

Have they even announced a KH3 yet?bigd575

opnion is too late. Plus the KH3 So called "Fan boy" wasn't the point. IT was about SQUARE ENIX the topic's over.Young_Charter

And as much as I hate it, I see it going to Wii.Ultrabeatdown55

[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]And as much as I hate it, I see it going to Wii.K1LLR3175

[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]And as much as I hate it, I see it going to Wii.K1LLR3175

I love starting a post at the end of a long thread.

I personally see a significant problem with SEs multi-platforming. The number one reason is that they have been on Playstion consoles for as long as I can remember playing games, which is over around 11 years. They built and fanbase for their games one these playstation consoles and when the Xbox 360 came out they started to put exclusives over on to there instead of the PS2 or PS3. There are significant differences is the fan base of people who play either of the consoles. The Xbox is more based around action/shooters to sports games, anything really that you can play to get a quick thrill and nothing that really takes a good long about of time to get into. While the PS3 has the RPGs, the puzzle games, and stuff more along the lines of a longer more developing story or complicated gameplay. I love both of these types and is why I have both systems. But the problem I see with Square is that they are trying to port games onto the supposed "More Popular System" just so they can get more money in the U.S. Sadly these games are getting low scores and aren't selling very well because the fan base on that system is different then the games they are trying to put on them. Right now the PS3 has sold about as many if not more systems then the Xbox (Don't qoute me on this, it is just speculation). So in my opinion if they actually marketed to the PS3 where people who have the most fan base for them are they would be able to sell their games probably better then they are doing on the Xbox.

No matter how much people say that fanboyism is a bad thing and it doesn't mean **** I have to say I disagree. There are a large number of fanboys for each system and that number can greatly effect sales. Most Final Fantasy lovers I know are all PS3 fanboys and strictly enjoy playing RPGs or action adventure role playing games, while the people I know that love Gears of War are Xbox fanboys and prefer either shooters or sports games and do not like RPGs because they don't play games for the story they just love the hardcore fast paced gameplay. So fanboyism does matter, it is just not something people like to see. I used to be a PS3 Fanboy, and still am to an extent, like I don't like the frame rate issues I get with my Xbox and I believe that PS3 does have better software, but when it comes to the games I don't hold which console it comes out on against them, I just prefer they either announce in the begining that it is going to be multi-platform, or port it later after the game has been released.

the thing that made me decide to buy a ps3 was becuase i knew ( or thought ) i would need it for final fantasy games. well that and metal gear.

I love starting a post at the end of a long thread.

I personally see a significant problem with SEs multi-platforming. The number one reason is that they have been on Playstion consoles for as long as I can remember playing games, which is over around 11 years. They built and fanbase for their games one these playstation consoles and when the Xbox 360 came out they started to put exclusives over on to there instead of the PS2 or PS3. There are significant differences is the fan base of people who play either of the consoles. The Xbox is more based around action/shooters to sports games, anything really that you can play to get a quick thrill and nothing that really takes a good long about of time to get into. While the PS3 has the RPGs, the puzzle games, and stuff more along the lines of a longer more developing story or complicated gameplay. I love both of these types and is why I have both systems. But the problem I see with Square is that they are trying to port games onto the supposed "More Popular System" just so they can get more money in the U.S. Sadly these games are getting low scores and aren't selling very well because the fan base on that system is different then the games they are trying to put on them. Right now the PS3 has sold about as many if not more systems then the Xbox (Don't qoute me on this, it is just speculation). So in my opinion if they actually marketed to the PS3 where people who have the most fan base for them are they would be able to sell their games probably better then they are doing on the Xbox.

No matter how much people say that fanboyism is a bad thing and it doesn't mean **** I have to say I disagree. There are a large number of fanboys for each system and that number can greatly effect sales. Most Final Fantasy lovers I know are all PS3 fanboys and strictly enjoy playing RPGs or action adventure role playing games, while the people I know that love Gears of War are Xbox fanboys and prefer either shooters or sports games and do not like RPGs because they don't play games for the story they just love the hardcore fast paced gameplay. So fanboyism does matter, it is just not something people like to see. I used to be a PS3 Fanboy, and still am to an extent, like I don't like the frame rate issues I get with my Xbox and I believe that PS3 does have better software, but when it comes to the games I don't hold which console it comes out on against them, I just prefer they either announce in the begining that it is going to be multi-platform, or port it later after the game has been released.

shenki

the thing that made me decide to buy a ps3 was becuase i knew ( or thought ) i would need it for final fantasy games. well that and metal gear.

railroberto2007

[QUOTE="Young_Charter"]The point is that the PS3 is not going to have Exclusives for itself and Square is really turning its back on the PS3 putting other exclusives on the 360K1LLR3175

Kingdom Hearts should have stopped after the first one. I'll pass on KHIII like I did with KHII. Like where the heck were all those new characters introduced in KHII when KH was going on? S-E just doesn't know when to stop with these spinoffs and sequels. Ex. FFVII, FFX-2, KH. Squaresoft would have never let this happen.1uP_OnYou

Kingdom Hearts should have stopped after the first one. I'll pass on KHIII like I did with KHII. Like where the heck were all those new characters introduced in KHII when KH was going on? S-E just doesn't know when to stop with these spinoffs and sequels. Ex. FFVII, FFX-2, KH. Squaresoft would have never let this happen.1uP_OnYou

are you serious? KHII was way better than KH, you missed out. What new characters were introduced? because they do tie into the story of KH and KH:COM if you ever play the games. Youre just babbling.

[QUOTE="1uP_OnYou"]Kingdom Hearts should have stopped after the first one. I'll pass on KHIII like I did with KHII. Like where the heck were all those new characters introduced in KHII when KH was going on? S-E just doesn't know when to stop with these spinoffs and sequels. Ex. FFVII, FFX-2, KH. Squaresoft would have never let this happen.ellez

are you serious? KHII was way better than KH, you missed out. What new characters were introduced? because they do tie into the story of KH and KH:COM if you ever play the games. Youre just babbling.

Im just simply expressing how I feel and voicing my opinion which I am aloud to do. Sorry you and Im sure everyone else in this topic don't agree or feel the same way I do. Enjoy KHIII when released.

Kingdom Hearts should have stopped after the first one. I'll pass on KHIII like I did with KHII. Like where the heck were all those new characters introduced in KHII when KH was going on? S-E just doesn't know when to stop with these spinoffs and sequels. Ex. FFVII, FFX-2, KH. Squaresoft would have never let this happen.1uP_OnYou

[QUOTE="MusashiSensi"]Please...PLEASE! KH3 has not even been announced, so drop it already. Ps: Stop with the fanboy crap & accept the fact that the gaming industry is a $$$ making buisness, so multiplatform gaming issues are thorns in the side to fanboys only. This is my opinion.abdelmessih101

But we all know it's coming so what's the problem with discussing it, even if it is a little premature?

By the way, I do agree somewhat with the second part of your post. The only time multiplatform vs exclusive matters to me is when:

1. a game's quality is sacrificed to put it on more than one console
2. I have to wait for the game to be ported to or made on another console after the PS3 version is done before I can play it
3. a game that was supposed to be on the PS3 becomes exclusive to another console

How do we know it's coming? Is it from the little message sora got @ the end? HA! I am not saying it wont happen..BUT....it was never announced, so just relax yourself. This will be just like the so called "FF7 Remake".

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]

[QUOTE="MusashiSensi"]Please...PLEASE! KH3 has not even been announced, so drop it already. Ps: Stop with the fanboy crap & accept the fact that the gaming industry is a $$$ making buisness, so multiplatform gaming issues are thorns in the side to fanboys only. This is my opinion.MusashiSensi

But we all know it's coming so what's the problem with discussing it, even if it is a little premature?

By the way, I do agree somewhat with the second part of your post. The only time multiplatform vs exclusive matters to me is when:

1. a game's quality is sacrificed to put it on more than one console
2. I have to wait for the game to be ported to or made on another console after the PS3 version is done before I can play it
3. a game that was supposed to be on the PS3 becomes exclusive to another console

How do we know it's coming? Is it from the little message sora got @ the end? HA! I am not saying it wont happen..BUT....it was never announced, so just relax yourself. This will be just like the so called "FF7 Remake".