[QUOTE="Miguel16"][QUOTE="pettman1970"][QUOTE="bizzy420"][QUOTE="pettman1970"] [QUOTE="Lo_Rising"]30 frames is fine for shooters people, it can still be a great game, just look at the halo series 30 frames and its silky smoothshadystxxx
I will respectfully dissagree that Halo is silky smooth. When I used to PC game if a game didn't run at 60 to 80 frames per second; it was time for me to upgrade. Halo is locked at 30 fps and is for the most part tolarable to me as is every first person shooter that is locked at 30.I just prefer the more realistic movements of 60 fps.
thats what im saying man, console gamers have been playing games at 30fps since forever, and Pc gamers usually play at 60-100fps, thats why pc gamers can easily tell the difference, but console gamers cant.
Ever since I stopped playing high end PC games I have missed the super high frame rates and the good ole days of high res. crt monitors with high refresh rates. For the life of me I can't believe that this concept escapes most console gamers. You can see the difference in 30 fps and 60 plus. If you can't then you do not have an eye for detail at all. I work with graphic arts for a living and can spot details in it's smallest form. Movies being only 24 fps was originally adopted because of the cost per foot of film material. Some older movies were filmed at 30 fps and look so much clearer and smooth due to the extra frames yet still maintains it's cinematic feel. The HD era has madesub 60 fps games much more noticeable to many due to the extra detail these sets show. So in the end; if you can't see the difference in 30 and 60 know that there is a difference that shows and you just can't pick the details out.
What you are saying is true. I usually get 60+fps on my pc games but does that mean that 30 fps is bad at all? No 30fps is fine for me and plenty of other pc gamers. And like bizzy said, console gamers have been playing at that framerate for a while now. Why is it so important. This technical talk is just being thrown around daily now. 30fps is fine for games as long as its steady. If its a shaky 30fps with multiple dips then there would be a case in that but as this game isnt even in beta i believe and we havent even seen much new footage or details, the state of the game is obviously unknown. This thread needs to be closed or just left to die.
The reason this fps talk keeps coming up nowadays is because fangirls think its a way to prove their console of choice is the most powerfull, And its all certain people now in terns of technical meanings when talking about games.
Personally i dont really care about frames per second aslong as my game is not like a slideshow, epic made a decison to have gears at 30fps so they could push high res textures and what not, its basicly one or the other at the moment on consoles, either beautiful graphics ie gears/killzone and 30 fps, or sacrifice certain graphical aspects for 60 fps ie forza 2.
And thats the way it should be 60 fps in games like forza and gt5 make a big difference and other fast moving games, 30 fps for gears/killzone/bioshock and others is fine.
People just think since the madden fiasco that 30 fps is bad, and because killzone runs at 30 fps its a negative against the game, but when really its not.
Its time gamers let the techinical jargon to developers and we concentrate on things that matter like gameplay,Ai,graphics,controls,storyline,muti-player etc etc.
Exactly and thats what pc gamers have been doing forever. With them they can drop the resolution a bit, lower the texture quality and eye candy a bit, and get some killer frames OR they can play it all maxed out at a res of 1920x1200 and deal with something around 20-30fps or even sub 20 if their pcs cant handle it. Developers for the pc have to optimize it for all platforms and leave it up to the user to choose how they want their game to look and run.
But for the console gamers they dont have that luxury. They're working with predetermined hardware. They've all got the same hardware so developers have to make all the decisions. You want a game that looks amazing with crazy physics, lighting and high res textures. Enjoy and be content with the 30fps. If u want them to dumb down the textures and lighting just for another 30 frames when 30 is already good enough then there is something wrong with you. Next thing you know, your complaining that the graphics suck and the game is a flop.
Gimme a break
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