Ar Tonelico Qoga is absolutely the best JRPG on PS3 so far ( imo )

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#101 CheekyIchi
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I just might get that game when I have the cash.

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#102 Scianix-Black
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I'm sorry, but there's just no way that this game is the best JRPG of this gen. However, It is arguably the closest substitute to kiddy porn in a video game format that we've had in a long time. :lol:Rakuho
Yeah, well, DON'T KNOCK IT TILL YOU TRY IT BRO.
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#103 Rakuho
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[QUOTE="Rakuho"]I'm sorry, but there's just no way that this game is the best JRPG of this gen. However, It is arguably the closest substitute to kiddy porn in a video game format that we've had in a long time. :lol:Scianix-Black
Yeah, well, DON'T KNOCK IT TILL YOU TRY IT BRO.

I can knock whatever I damn-well please :lol:

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#104 San_09
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[QUOTE="jer_1"]

If this is anything similar to Star Oceans then I wouldn't touch this game with a 10 foot pole, that game was pitifully boring and the story made me want to off myself. Please tell me this game isn't another "Made for 10 year olds!" style JRPG?!

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lol nope this isnt pokemon it is so not made for 10 years olds :P.. heck the boxart clearly says 17+ :P.. anyways i played SO4 and even though it is annoying indeed the battle system was amazing, this game is far not like SO4 but battle system a bit close to SO, very great game.

...

That is sarcasm...

Right..

RIGHT?

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#105 tjoeb123
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You know what I've noticed? With the exception of RPG fanboys/sites, everyone I mention this game to is like "What the hell is that?". Which is probably why the reason the few major gaming sites (ie IGN) have posted plenty of PS3 reviews over the past week...none of them being this game. Also, I really want to talk about the game....but I cant because I'd be spoiling it for you all...especially those who aren't with Saki...
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#106 Scianix-Black
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Saki is lame. I chose to go with Finnel because of YURISICA. OH GOD YURISICA. I currently have two hearts with Finny. Also, you could use spoiler tags. And I just finished Phase II, I'm literally right at the beginning of Phase III and I'm incredibly overpowered due to way too much grinding (level 49), so I'm assuming I'm about to beat this game.
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#107 tjoeb123
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To me, Saki is NOT lame. I was going to go after Finnel after her (I already got the bad and Saki's normal ending, so I might as well finish it and get all the CGs for her), but hell, I changed my mind. I'm going after *someone else*. And yeah, you're either about to beat it or have a long way to go. Only one boss gave me a hard time. Here are the ending requirements, and what I meant by that. [spoiler] When you get to the Rinkernator, that's where you get to decide what ending you'll get based on the last heart point and a choice you make later in the game. Bad end = Don't beat the DIY and stop Saki's song. (Ar Ru will be the final boss in this case) Normal end = DIY battle outcome doesn't matter. At least 2 heart points, don't stop Saki's song. True end = Win the DIY battle, have 3 heart points, and stop Saki's song. DIY battle - The only thing that's important is that you have 2 Ultra Supermoves learned for at least 2 people (I have them for Aoto and Cocona) and that you have advanced enough into your heroine of choice's Cosmosphere to do do her Flipsphere attack. If you lose it will still be Game Over. So, it's a timed battle. (about maybe 10 minutes?) Oh, and that other character I've been hinting at? It's Tyria. You only get her if you win the DIY battle. I believe she has endings too, but I do not know how to get them. If you go after her I suggest only having 2 hearts max on Saki/Finnel prior to the DIY battle. But as I haven't beaten the game yet, I could be totally wrong. And if I am, use spoiler tags. I could also be wrong on this (I am in the process of confirming this for myself) but the DLC packs are accessed automatically. For "Elemia Island", I believe that is Tyria's cosmosphere. For the Harvestasha modules, I believe that whichever one you last installed will be the one to take effect. [/spoiler] Ultra Supermoves require a Level 3 purge and 30,000% Boost. They are executed from the menu. I don't think many of you know this (I just randomly discovered it while skipping the sequence), but Flipshere attacks can deal as much as 500,000 damage. And that's at like, the lower 20s. To deal damage, look at the grid thingy and press X on the beat while the animation is playing. Obviously the more you hit the more damage.
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#108 Scianix-Black
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Oh yeah, I knew this, it explains that when you first unlock Flipspheres, lol. I hit for 148,000,000 something last night with Yurisica.

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#109 tjoeb123
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Oh yeah, I knew this, it explains that when you first unlock Flipspheres, lol. I hit for 148,000,000 something last night with Yurisica.

Scianix-Black
Excuse me, did my eyes just see 148 MILLION?!?!?!? WOW. I only posted that for those who didn't know and to help you with what's in the spoiler tag. But since you can do THAT MUCH (!?!?!?!) damage, I think I may have wasted half of that post....
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#110 Shadow-Elite
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Don't think at all this game is best JRPG of the gen... And I think Finnel is better than Saki
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And I think Finnel is better than SakiShadow-Elite
My opinion stands regardless of what others like you may say about Saki/Finnel. My reason of liking her over Finnel has nothing to do with battle stats, I like her for her character/story/etc. only. But she still kicks ass in battle.
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#112 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Oh yeah, I knew this, it explains that when you first unlock Flipspheres, lol. I hit for 148,000,000 something last night with Yurisica.

tjoeb123

Excuse me, did my eyes just see 148 MILLION?!?!?!? WOW. I only posted that for those who didn't know and to help you with what's in the spoiler tag. But since you can do THAT MUCH (!?!?!?!) damage, I think I may have wasted half of that post....

Like I said, I grinded way too much when I started out because the harmograph system is addictive somehow once you get used to it, lol. Now I'm just overpowered...

[spoiler] When you fight Mute for the first timeas you're escaping the Clustanian purification chambers,after Aoto and co. discover her true form, I purged three times with Yurisica as I was taking out the lackeys, and then used her attack on Mute and ended the battle. On the end battle spoils/exp screen, it said I beat it in 26 seconds. [/spoiler]

I don't know if it's supposed to be that easy or not, but it feels like I'm cutting through everything like butter and I'm on normal. Does this game have NG+?

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#113 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="Shadow-Elite"]And I think Finnel is better than Sakitjoeb123
My opinion stands regardless of what others like you may say about Saki/Finnel. My reason of liking her over Finnel has nothing to do with battle stats, I like her for her character/story/etc. only. But she still kicks ass in battle.

She's too nice for me. I mean, I like nice, but I've seen main character fall for incredibly stupid but nice girl way too much in anime... so I chose Finnel. But mainly because of Yurisica. HELLO NURSE.

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#114 Shadow-Elite
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[QUOTE="Shadow-Elite"]And I think Finnel is better than Sakitjoeb123
My opinion stands regardless of what others like you may say about Saki/Finnel. My reason of liking her over Finnel has nothing to do with battle stats, I like her for her character/story/etc. only. But she still kicks ass in battle.

Tbh, I don't like Finnel much (especially her character design) But her cosomosphere intrigues me. That big eye in her sphere, why Soma is killing anyone that gets close to her, why she ran from Clustiina, etc. She just seems to have better character story to me.
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#115 yokofox33
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I have yet to start this game. I need to beat Dragon Age 2 before I even consider starting this game.

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#116 AjaxNeron
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This game looks great - might wait for price-drop.

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[QUOTE="tjoeb123"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]Oh yeah, I knew this, it explains that when you first unlock Flipspheres, lol. I hit for 148,000,000 something last night with Yurisica.Scianix-Black
Excuse me, did my eyes just see 148 MILLION?!?!?!? WOW. I only posted that for those who didn't know and to help you with what's in the spoiler tag. But since you can do THAT MUCH (!?!?!?!) damage, I think I may have wasted half of that post....

Like I said, I grinded way too much when I started out because the harmograph system is addictive somehow once you get used to it, lol. Now I'm just overpowered...[spoiler] When you fight Mute for the first timeas you're escaping the Clustanian purification chambers,after Aoto and co. discover her true form, I purged three times with Yurisica as I was taking out the lackeys, and then used her attack on Mute and ended the battle. On the end battle spoils/exp screen, it said I beat it in 26 seconds. [/spoiler] I don't know if it's supposed to be that easy or not, but it feels like I'm cutting through everything like butter and I'm on normal. Does this game have NG+?

When did you get a victory screen during a boss battle? That never happened for me. Either Normal is too easy, or Gust didn't want to make it too hard. And yes, NG+ is there. The best thing about it is that you can restart from 3 predetermined points: [spoiler] The beginning, Phase 2, and just before the DIY battle. That, right there, is very handy. [/spoiler] It carries over just about everything even though the game says otherwise. At least that's what happened to me since I restarted from the the 3rd point. I didn't get to redistribute the 3rd heart point (you do so at the cutscene before you're given one last chance to prepare), but I was set for Saki so it didn't matter.
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#118 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"][QUOTE="tjoeb123"] Excuse me, did my eyes just see 148 MILLION?!?!?!? WOW. I only posted that for those who didn't know and to help you with what's in the spoiler tag. But since you can do THAT MUCH (!?!?!?!) damage, I think I may have wasted half of that post....tjoeb123
Like I said, I grinded way too much when I started out because the harmograph system is addictive somehow once you get used to it, lol. Now I'm just overpowered...[spoiler] When you fight Mute for the first timeas you're escaping the Clustanian purification chambers,after Aoto and co. discover her true form, I purged three times with Yurisica as I was taking out the lackeys, and then used her attack on Mute and ended the battle. On the end battle spoils/exp screen, it said I beat it in 26 seconds. [/spoiler] I don't know if it's supposed to be that easy or not, but it feels like I'm cutting through everything like butter and I'm on normal. Does this game have NG+?

When did you get a victory screen during a boss battle? That never happened for me.

Then... I'm probably just an idiot and mistook that victory screen for one from a regular battle, but I definitely beat Mute waaaay too fast. It feels like I haven't fought any boss battles at all, just Mute, and whenever I do fight her, I run through her like nothing.

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Also, I finished the [spoiler] Richa [/spoiler] battle, and I have two words to say to that song ("EXEC_Z/."): BAD ASS. That's definitely going on my iPod when I get the song. I wish there were at least A FEW hymns on the CD...with this being one of them.
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I guess I'm happy for you guys for finding an RPG game y'all like. I was excited for this game when i read the first OPs impression but after I youtubed the game.....I suddenly remembered why I stopped watching anime and stopped playing japanese rpg's for the longest time. Thank god for Fairy Tail (the only anime i watch--its like family guy meets Naruto). I guess i just grew out of all these cliched storylines of little girls and little boys saving the world with cheesy lines and whatnot.

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#122 mahdi1411
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even though I like JRPGs a lot, i'm not sure about this one... from what I heard about it, it had many weird twists. and one more thing ... a game beating final fantasy xiii or eternal sonata is not an achievement for this gen games. Actually it is shameful for JRPGs of this gen to lose for these two.. If you want to impress people with a new JRPG. Compare it to lost odyssey or tales of vesperia. If it can beat them. then we can have a talk :)
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#123 tjoeb123
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Actually what we need is Namco localizing Tales games. Not just Graces F, either.
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#124 tjoeb123
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Just trying to keep this alive... On a personal note, I've been playing for about the past 4 hours and have made little progress...
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#125 Scianix-Black
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Yeah, the soundtrack CD's a piece of crap I could have made myself with Roxio and Photoshop.

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#126 tjoeb123
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Yeah, the soundtrack CD's a piece of crap I could have made myself with Roxio and Photoshop.

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Yeah...Welcome to the Tour is my favorite song (aside from the hymns) and it's not on there... Anyway, here are some pics and videos I took and why I took them: [spoiler]  Life statement.  Prinny reference?  Breaking the 4th wall (the game's own genre).  2006 is a year?  A girl says a...sorta bad word. LANGUAGE WARNING: http://s720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/Tjoeb123/?action=view¤t=6db15831.jpg But I never knew a girl would slip out that bad of a word... LANGUAGE WARNING: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n-LpXxW5EA Again, I didn't know that any of the girls would say bad words. But I like that... Now if only it were Saki, that'd be a whole 'nother story. [/spoiler]
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#127 Bigboi500
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Actually what we need is Namco localizing Tales games. Not just Graces F, either.tjoeb123
Amen to that. No offense to anyone here, but the Tales games are head and shoulders better than all the mediocrity in the form of JRPGs that has been coming out lately on the PS3.

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#128 Young_Charter
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@finalstar2007 : Yo twin, stop being friggin lazy and turn this this thread into the Ar Tonelico Qoga thread right now ! :P or at least edit the title :lol:
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#129 Zidaneski
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[QUOTE="Zidaneski"]

I looked at the cover for a sec and thought it looked interesting but then I saw the rated M sign and now I don't care. Heh, I was like "But it looks sooooo cute,".

finalstar2007

So you cant handle the 17+ stuff? :P.. overall this is a great game im just glad to see more and more people are enjoying it

Nah I can handle most 17+ stuff. I can handle everything except blood and gore (I will start to get nauteous) which i doubt this game has. I justavoid it because I don't wantit to change me.

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I never knew a girl would slip out that bad of a word... tjoeb123
You should get to know girls better. I've hung out large groups of girls as a fly on the wall, and man... they are filthy! :P
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#131 finalstar2007
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Saki is lame. I chose to go with Finnel because of YURISICA. OH GOD YURISICA. I currently have two hearts with Finny. Also, you could use spoiler tags. And I just finished Phase II, I'm literally right at the beginning of Phase III and I'm incredibly overpowered due to way too much grinding (level 49), so I'm assuming I'm about to beat this game.Scianix-Black

lmao i know tho i went for Saki and beat it yesterday with the bad Ending :(.. playing it again for normal or happy ending :D

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#132 finalstar2007
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Actually what we need is Namco localizing Tales games. Not just Graces F, either.tjoeb123

Even the Tales of Vesperia movie is being localized and coming this summer, finally Tales is leaving Japan :P

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#133 finalstar2007
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Alright guess time to state what i think since i played it over 30 hours and beat it just yesterday, absolutely amazing game, the diving system feels like a whole different story in the game with so many stages and multiple stories with each revitale, loved the battle system till the end and what i love most is how fighting monsters and stuff has a limit, you have a limit on the amount of monsters you fight then you cane asily move around the whole cave, jungle, etc without having to worry about fighting,

SPOILER:

With my choices i ended up getting the bad ending with i felt was both sad and quick, yes things become intense and songs began to get better and better thorugh the end but felt very quick for me i was hoping for something more, best thing of all is how at the end of the game we can view all the songs, movies and events that been unlocked during the game, game start being funny then gets serious and serious through the end

Overall my socre for this is 9.5/10

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#135 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]Saki is lame. I chose to go with Finnel because of YURISICA. OH GOD YURISICA. I currently have two hearts with Finny. Also, you could use spoiler tags. And I just finished Phase II, I'm literally right at the beginning of Phase III and I'm incredibly overpowered due to way too much grinding (level 49), so I'm assuming I'm about to beat this game.finalstar2007

lmao i know tho i went for Saki and beat it yesterday with the bad Ending :(.. playing it again for normal or happy ending :D

What level did you beat it on?
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#136 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]Saki is lame. I chose to go with Finnel because of YURISICA. OH GOD YURISICA. I currently have two hearts with Finny. Also, you could use spoiler tags. And I just finished Phase II, I'm literally right at the beginning of Phase III and I'm incredibly overpowered due to way too much grinding (level 49), so I'm assuming I'm about to beat this game.Scianix-Black

lmao i know tho i went for Saki and beat it yesterday with the bad Ending :(.. playing it again for normal or happy ending :D

What level did you beat it on?

50's :D.. everyone were at the 50 level range when i beat it but oh wow the game got even longer when i went back and switched my choice to a different choice.. epic! :cry:..well both epic and happy since one person going to spoiler..... die :(

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#137 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

lmao i know tho i went for Saki and beat it yesterday with the bad Ending :(.. playing it again for normal or happy ending :D

finalstar2007

What level did you beat it on?

50's :D.. everyone were at the 50 level range when i beat it but oh wow the game got even longer when i went back and switched my choice to a different choice.. epic! :cry:..well both epic and happy since one person going to spoiler..... die :(

Ok, I'm done then. I didn't get this game for drama, I thought it would be this super happy-go-lucky adventure with an unrealistically happy ending. I'm just gonna play Vesperia.

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I just got this a few days ago, not tried it yet, but i am looking forward to it!

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[QUOTE="tjoeb123"]Actually what we need is Namco localizing Tales games. Not just Graces F, either.finalstar2007

Even the Tales of Vesperia movie is being localized and coming this summer, finally Tales is leaving Japan :P

Link or it's not happening.

Alright guess time to state what i think since i played it over 30 hours and beat it just yesterday, absolutely amazing game, the diving system feels like a whole different story in the game with so many stages and multiple stories with each revitale, loved the battle system till the end and what i love most is how fighting monsters and stuff has a limit, you have a limit on the amount of monsters you fight then you cane asily move around the whole cave, jungle, etc without having to worry about fighting,

SPOILER:

With my choices i ended up getting the bad ending with i felt was both sad and quick, yes things become intense and songs began to get better and better thorugh the end but felt very quick for me i was hoping for something more, best thing of all is how at the end of the game we can view all the songs, movies and events that been unlocked during the game, game start being funny then gets serious and serious through the end

Overall my socre for this is 9.5/10

finalstar2007
Did you see my earlier post on how to get all but the bad ending? It all revolves on whether you win the MYU battle (which you can restart from using the Clear Data, though you can't redistribute the last heart point) as well as heart points for her and/or how far you've gotten in her Cosmosphere. (SPOILER: particularly Level 8..DAMMIT, EMOTICIONS), in addition to that choice before the Ar Ru battle. If you wish I can outline the requirements once again. [spoiler] Oh yeah, and there's a secret character. I say secret because not many people know about it, in fact I was surprised when this character joined my party. How to get her? I'm not telling.....but, hint hint: MYU. [/spoiler]